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CANNABIS MYTHS

Sam_Skunkman

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I thought I would list a lot of the old MYTHS going around, in no order.
Maybe I will add a little order and make a few catagories:
GROWING
DRYING
PROCESSING
STORING
USING
CANNABINOIDS
CHEMISTRY
GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA


#1 THCV gets you really high and makes THC much better.

FACT: THCV does not get you high, and is a THC antagonist.

#2 THC is formed by the plant from CBD

FACT: THC and all of the cannabinoids are made by the plant from CBG, each Cannabinoid by a different sythase.

#3 Eating Cannabis is the same as smoking.

FACT: Smoking Cannabis delivers THC to the blood and brain, eating Cannabis delivers mostly 11 Hydroxy-THC to the blood and brain, which is slightly more potent and is slightly different in effects.

#4 Eating Cannabis requires no cooking.

FACT:If you want to get the most out of the effects you will need to decarboxylate the THCA to THC to make it active.

#5 The highest you can get is by smoking pure THC.

FACT: THC is the Cannabinoid that gets you high, but you can get much higher as well as highs of the type you prefer with the right Terpenoids in the plant.

#6 Pipe scrapings are smokable.

FACT: Sure you could smoke them but they will not get you high, they may get you a bit loaded as all of the THC will have been broken down into CBN.
Like 5-10 year old buds or resin keep at room temp. (some folks claim they can get high from fresh pipe scrapings, I have my doubts, I know you can get loaded)

#7 Grafting a Cannabis root with a Hops plant yields a legal hops plant that is stony as hell.

FACT: THC is not produced in the roots and the Hops will have no THC.

#8 Dry Cannabis upside down to get the THC into the buds. Boil the roots for potentcy.

FACT: THC is not produced in the roots it is produced in trichomes on the flowers and leaves.

#9 Cannabis is adulterated with LSD, crack, speed, heroin, formaldahyde, coloring agents, glass beads, by greedy folks to sell more Cannabis and make more money.

FACT: First of all most of these drugs cost more then the Cannabis, a few can't even be smoked, but if you want to be safe, grow your own or know the grower. Even then you can hope he did not shake any resin off the dry manicured buds, people are people.

#10 Marijuana is addictive.

FACT: Most pleasurable activities are to some degree. Is the risk so bad that Cannabis need to prohibited? While alcohol and tobacco are to be allowed? As the addiction rate for alcohol is higher then for Cannabis and Cannabis is also much much lower then for tobacco, the reason becomes apparent the real reason for Cannabis prohibition is not a need to save the public from addictive substances.

This explains your sugar addiction:

In a study, rats overwhelmingly prefer sweetened water to cocaine, even those already hooked on the drug.
Researchers have learned that rats overwhelmingly prefer water sweetened with saccharin to cocaine, a finding that demonstrates the addictive potential of sweets.
Offering larger doses of cocaine did not alter the rats' preference for saccharin, according to the report.
Scientists said the study, presented this week in San Diego at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience, might help explain the rise in human obesity, which has been driven in part by an overconsumption of sugary foods.
In the experiment, 43 rats were placed in cages with two levers, one of which delivered an intravenous dose of cocaine and the other a sip of highly sweetened water. At the end of the 15-day trial, 40 of the rats consistently chose saccharin instead of cocaine.
When sugar water was substituted for the saccharin solution, the results were the same, researchers said.
Further testing the rat sweet tooth, scientists subjected 24 cocaine-addicted rats to a similar trial. At the end of 10 days, the majority of them preferred saccharin.
"Intense sweetness is more rewarding to the rats than cocaine," said coauthor Magalie Lenoir of the University of Bordeaux in France.
Lenoir said mammalian taste receptors evolved in an environment that lacked sugar and so were not adapted to the high concentrations of sweets found in the modern diet. Excess sugar could increase levels of the brain chemical dopamine, she said, leading to a craving for sweets.
Cocaine also increases dopamine, she said, but through a different brain mechanism.

#11 Marijuana is a gateway drug.

FACT: Over 70-90 million Americans have tried Marijuana with only 10 million users, while the USA addiction rates for heroin are 1/2 million users and 4 million have tried it. For or amphetamine 10 million have tried and 1.5 million are users, while cocaine is less then 2 million users and 22 million have tried it.
I guess my question is where are all the 70-90 million addicts? And why isn't beer or cigarettes considered gateway drugs, while Cannabis is??
No Cannabis is not a gateway drug.

#12 Marijuana will drive you crazy, schizophrenic, or psychotic.

FACT: Then why have the rates for mental illness in Canada, USA, Australia, Netherlands, Spain, not changed in the last 40 years as the rates of Cannabis consumption rose in the respective countries? And why are the rates of countries like Singapore, Sweden, Saudia Arabia, countries that do not have a lot of Cannabis smokers, have the same %'s of mental illness as countries that have a high % of youth smoking Cannabis?

Anymore rumors, post them and I will add them, if I am sure of the answer, to my ongoing list...

-SamS
 
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marx2k

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Thank you. Now please distribute this to every 10-17 year old in America. We might be able to get rid of dumb pot questions within a generation!
 
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gmb

Depends on how dumb you want the myths to be. We could add things like:

Black lights make your weed have no seeds

Pipe resin is hash

etc...
 

Pops

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Sam,while you are here,I want to ask you a question. No myths, some strain info. My son is diagnosed with ALS, and I am looking for a strain with good THC and as high a CBD as I can find. THC is neuroprotective and CBD is good for convulsions and muscle spacticity. I know that CBD is the primary cannabinoid in low THC strains, but I need to get a good combo of both. Do you know of any high THC strains with a fair amount of CBD?

While I am at it, I might as well ask another. Are specific terpenes responsible for specific flavors and odors, or are they a result of a combination of different terpenes. I know that limonene has an orange-lemon flavor and is found in citrus rind as well as cannabis.
 
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Sam_Skunkman

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I know of no available strain with high THC/CBD. Does anyone?

Yes they are both specific and and a blend creates interesting combos.

-SamS
 
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All of the Whites,widow russian and Great white shark all have CBD over 1.5%.Anything over 1.0 is pretty high.Can't find CBD for the block POps but I know its up there by the way my penis drags in the street when I smoke it.Dick in dirt action.
 

Sam_Skunkman

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I have Indicas with very very low CBD, almost none and I still get couchlock if I smoke them. CBD does cause couchlock, but so does a lot more things besides CBD. 1.5% CBD is not much CBD, I have clones that have over 10% CBD. But they were made for specific work and not available to the public.

-SamS
 
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Well Damn Sam as the saying goes,since Pops isn't the general public maybe you could help his kid out?Thats high CBD,I spent a lot of time trying to find something over 2% and couldn't.
 

Sam_Skunkman

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I suggest you keep looking, as I said they were made for a specific job and not available to the public, sorry. Why you might ask yourself don't other people have high CBD varieties? Thats what needs to be asked. BTW, Pure CBD is legal in the Nehterlands. You could just buy some, but it is illegal in the USA even though it don't get you high. Crazy huh?
Hope you find a solution, it is not hard to find low CBD varieties just plant a hemp seed, you will get low CBD with even lower THC. What you need is a high CBD crossed with a high THC, then you will get seeds with high THC/CBD. But I looked for years for a high CBD and could not find it and gave up and made one.

-SamS
 
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Here's some from the old days:
THC is formed in the roots. Thus grafts of other plant onto cannabis roots will have THC

MJ LOVES HOT TEMPS - THC is increased to protect the plant


Hermis are a good thing
 
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Nice post Sam. I question #5 though. How or why do Terpenes/Terpenoids have anything to do with the high other than fragrance of the Cannabis? #6 I humbly but totally disagree with you as myself and others have achieved white out highs from smoking pipe scrapings, nasty yes, but it will fry you! :joint:
 

Sam_Skunkman

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Whizz,
Did it get you loaded or high? To get high you need THC not CBN. Although some people may call smoking CBN getting high, I do not. But maybe I need to change it?

Anyone else think they get high from pipe scrapings? I am afraid I have not done anything like that for 35 years at least, so my memory is faint.

About #5 what I say is the truth, you need to search the forums here and get an understanding of what I said.

-SamS
 
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In my travels this morning trying to find high THC/CBD strains I learned industrial hemp is high in CBD but unfortunately low in THC.The "ditchweed" we used to pick as teenagers in the midwest is probably full of CBD.
 
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It may help if you guys read this book. It explains quite a bit about how the component parts of THC/cbd/cbn etc work and what helps/hinders what. It also has a good section on cooking vs smoking etc. I recommend it to anyone looking for advise on the specifics.

http://www.amazon.com/Hashish-Robert-C-Clarke/dp/0929349059

Failing that a google search on THC potentiators and similar search terms yields some very detailed scientific papers on interaction of component chems. May help you towards your goals.
 

JLP

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Cool thread Sam.

The most stuff I see is about manipulating the environment to insure more females.

The more blatants myths are:

1.You can tell if a seed is female by looking at it.

2.Using birth control pills on your plants will turn them female.

JLP
 
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I haven't scraped - and smoked the scrapins from a pipe, for a long time. Since I learned how to get plants to a harvest anyways. But I did in the before daze.

I'm way low on inventory for a little while - If I gotta smoke scrapins - I'll wait.


dammm did I just say that?



So the kilo of hemp seeds I just bought - while they are suppose to be sterlized - usually sprout qite a few - - won't make me a million over night?
My bird loves Cannabis seed - - since I've tossed all the hermi stock - he's been deprived. That's no way to be, is it?
 

GOT_BUD?

Weed is a gateway to gardening
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"Are you a cop? 'Cause if you are, and bust me, that's entrapment."

No it isn't.
 
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Sam_Skunkman said:
Whizz,
Did it get you loaded or high? To get high you need THC not CBN. Although some people may call smoking CBN getting high, I do not. But maybe I need to change it?

Anyone else think they get high from pipe scrapings? I am afraid I have not done anything like that for 35 years at least, so my memory is faint.

About #5 what I say is the truth, you need to search the forums here and get an understanding of what I said.

-SamS
Sam, not sure what your term loaded means. I personally would describe "loaded" for me is like coming down from drinking alcohol. "High" from smoking/ingesting Cannabis I describe as "wrapped in a warm blanket" nice little head throb and warm soothing feeling in my body. Using these descriptions I will say I get "High" from the scrapings, in fact "very high" sometimes depending on the quality of Cannabis I have passed through my smoking device be it pipe or bong.
In regards to the terpenoid's, I was honestly curious as I thought terpenes were in reference to fragrance mainly due to the resinous oils of Cannabis and other plants as well. No challenge, just curious. Good read. :joint:
 

Gumbala

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Oh man one could have a field day with some of the propaganda thats been put out in the Reefer Madness era! haha wild sex orgies, insane men killing people haha etc.!

Sam did you ever experiment with Colchicine or is using it for polyploid a myth as well?
 
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