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Cannabis Breeders Morals And Ethics

mexcurandero420

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The same happening in Holland, they're now closing down growshops since the introduction of the new law which came active March 1st just like in the begin days of operation green merchant.

Communism is coming back.

Keep on growing :)
 

neongreen

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I don't think the OP was trolling. I watched the program from start to finish, and overall I thought it was positive. However, as some posters in this thread already pointed out some of what was being said was confused and misleading.

They did explain that they were basically dividing Cannabis up into two categories (presumably to "keep things simple" for the general public who are mostly not very knowledgeable about the subject): "Skunk" - defined as modern strains that have been bred for potency primarily (high THC/NO CBD), and "Hash"(THC and CBD at moderate levels).

What they completely ignored was that different strains have different Cannabinoid profiles, so when they were saying that smoking high strength "skunk" day after day can be harmful to certain people, they did not take into account that not all modern strains would have harmful effects on this *tiny* percentage of the population that might be predisposed to psychosis.

They also did not mention that, given the choice, most here would probably not smoke strains like "skunk" that had a negative effect on them. The UK is a bit different to the US in that on the street, there is not much choice, and "skunk" is quite often the only thing available. With legalization there would be more choice to pick the strains that are right for you!

What was also disconcerting was that they described the "hash" that they were giving to their test subjects as having less % THC than the "skunk"!? I think they said 3 or 4%! Yet they also said that that their skunk and hash had been imported form Holland as "medical grade" Cannabis!

I don't know what was going on there, but perhaps they were trying to replicate the type of "hash" that is commonly available on the streets here in the UK, which is in fact mostly adulterated with other things (Henna, rubber, shoe polish, etc) to bulk it up. I wouldn't call it "hash"!

They did make the distinction that "hash" had significant CBD content, and that protects us from some of the less pleasant side-effects of THC, and moderates the high somewhat.

So it was quite "mixed up", but most people there were basically in favor of legalizing (hash at least), which has to be a step in the right direction, but I'm sure once the subject of "skunk"/modern strains has been properly looked at, there will be more people in favor of decriminalizing those as well.

Part 2 is on tonight and I'll be watching to see if they address any of these issues, many of which have been raised on social media. (Edit - got that wrong! It's next week I think.)
 
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Matt8800

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One could say that junk food is damaging. Every time I go to the store, there is always a half dozen people in scooters loading up their scooter with junk food and soda. Guaranteed they will die way before a toker will on average.
 

floralheart

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I just watched a 90 minute live science based programme on UK channel 4 about skunk cannabis or strains that have been bred specific for THC. The programme was purely fact based with no biased reporting on either side it was excellent.
The show showed clearly that Cannabis which has been bred specifically for THC has a very harmful effect on the brain.

With evidence as clear as this should cannabis breeders now change the way they breed Cannabis and reintroduce CBD to create a more even ratio ?. Should commercial breeders give themselves a cap on how much THC they put into their strains given the now clear scientific facts on the damage that these strains can do ?.

Im no Cannabis breeder just a toker and i was just curious about what commercial cannabis breeders feel about the morality of knowingly putting out high THC strains that is obviously very damaging to allot of people ?

I feel breeders should bend over their good ole uncle sam, and shove pure as driven snow CBD, straight up his ass

bullshit tv programs also damage the brain, but i don't see anybody pulling the plug on those
 

Limeygreen

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I talked to some young people in europe, and they have been lead to believe that skunk is gmo cannabis, when I explained to them where skunk came from and that there wasn't gmo cannabis I know I wasn't 100% believed, the brainwashing over there is unbelievable.
 
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And I thought it was another thread about people selling F2s of somebody else's work. Breeding with clones that came with forbidden sharing conditions type thing.

At least we found out that reincarnation is true and Nancy Regan has been reborn as the OP. Long live Nixon, hail Bush, skunk = bad.

Sad part is that even though these assholes are becoming the minority the speak the loudest and push the hardest.

Imagine if they tried to push that BS in America? Kids running around saying "did you see that TV show? Dude we need to quit smoking this herb green poison... Only dabs and concentrates are safe"!

Then we have first timers in Colorado eating way too much edibles. And doing dabs then going to the hospital.

Balance will only come through legalization. People need to be able to pice the product that is right for them. But most of the world only sees two kinds of cannabis. Hash vs skunk, in America its Cronic vs shwag, green bud vs brown bud, is it the Cronic or reggies bro? No man Dro is the real deal it's cuz it's grown Dro ... You guys just don't understand! I swear I am about to bitch slap somebody!

The road will be long on a worldwide scale. I saw a show like this where an old conservative British lady went to Amstradam and they filmed her acting like a total jackass after smoking some mid grade Jamaican outdoor import. She just looked so... Words escape me to find a fit? But people like her are the mothers and grandmothers of planet earth. Stoners have his the truth from them for decades out of survival. People like her have self righteously ruined lives for generations. And we pretty much just had to bend over and take it. Now these ultra conservative nazi fucks are losing their grip and are now the minority.

Shows like the OP are watching are just modern Reefer Madness. Nothing more nothing less. I feel bad for these people but they have been a danger to our way of life for too long. They need a kick in the teeth not a merit badge.

I have seen people that have smoked all kinds of herb for years watch this garbage and try to tell me about this new kind of weed in the UK called skunk that is a million times stronger than anything I have ever seen and it is making poor weak minded British people into depressed psychopathic maniacs.

Get the fuck out of here with that shit!
 

Dready_jake

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Ya I don't believe these facts you laid out. I've only ever seen evidence that THC without its cbd partner has been extremely in relieving most issues and stimulates brain cell growth. Toss in cbd and you cover damn near everything to some extent of relief. Propaganda at its best. Cannabis that harms us, bullhockey!
 

Dready_jake

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. The programme was purely fact based with no biased reporting on either side it was excellent.
The show showed clearly that Cannabis which has been bred specifically for THC has a very harmful effect on the brain.

commercial breeders give themselves a cap on how much THC they put into their strains given the now clear scientific facts on the damage that these strains can do ?.

Im no Cannabis breeder just a toker and i was just curious about what commercial cannabis breeders feel about the morality of knowingly putting out high THC strains that is obviously very damaging to allot of people ?

All of this is complete bullshit. There is no proven evidence that high THC or just THC does any of this crap. I basically only smoke THC and terpines. I smoke well purged high quality BHO containing between 70-95% THC. Have been doing so for years with no I'll side effects.

The only people who have issues with THC are people who have neurological issues. I was talking to someone who was saying that because their friend smoked cannabis and it affected her badly its bad. After some prying it turns out her friend has natural severe mental issues and can't do things like drink alcohol. So cannabis might do the same.

"The show showed clearly that Cannabis which has been bred specifically for THC has a very harmful effect on the brain." Really? I saw it and it did no such thing with no such scientific evidence.

If I remember correctly it or a similar fockumentary said this person was addicted to cannabis but it turned out she smoked spliffs. A disgusting combination of the worlds most addictive substance and cannabis a miracle herb. FUCK THAT! SHES ADDICTED TO THE TOBACCO, the cannabis is such a small part of that equation
 
The only know harmful effects of cannabis to me are obstructive lung disease & hyperemesis . Anyone have others outside a overdose?
 

Dready_jake

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Hyperemisis is a joke too that boils down to bad diet and snoking what you sprayed on your plants, most people who had those symptoms stopped smoking neem and it went away IMHO. Are you joking majestic?
 

Bongstar420

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I just watched a 90 minute live science based programme on UK channel 4 about skunk cannabis or strains that have been bred specific for THC. The programme was purely fact based with no biased reporting on either side it was excellent.
The show showed clearly that Cannabis which has been bred specifically for THC has a very harmful effect on the brain.

With evidence as clear as this should cannabis breeders now change the way they breed Cannabis and reintroduce CBD to create a more even ratio ?. Should commercial breeders give themselves a cap on how much THC they put into their strains given the now clear scientific facts on the damage that these strains can do ?.


Im no Cannabis breeder just a toker and i was just curious about what commercial cannabis breeders feel about the morality of knowingly putting out high THC strains that is obviously very damaging to allot of people ?

That doesn't sound like a factually based show.
 
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