Canna the budds be bigger

[TBug]

Mate the frosty leaves taste much better than the tobacco most people mix with their stash also.
But i like to make me some honey oil with the trimming's

High Jack! Im with you. Frosty leaves are good smoke, why people complain is beyond me.
Whats this honey oil? Got a receipe? Sounds like something I would like. Peace brotha, TBug

 

[TBug]

i found canna aqua blew gh 3 part out the water (excuse the pun ),

High hazy. Is that true? by what comparison are you refering? Size, taste, speed of growth, or all? i use GH now with all the suplements too. I get good results but im always looking to improve. Peace, TBug

 

[sttb]

tobacco with weed uck why ruin your weed with nasty ass tobacco makes me wanna puke

 

[Guest]

High hazy. Is that true? by what comparison are you refering? Size, taste, speed of growth, or all? i use GH now with all the suplements too. I get good results but im always looking to improve. Peace, TBug

i used gh in nft and found trying to top up the tanks with gh is no easy task ,using the ratios on the bottles the ec/cf came out no where near stated and to achieve the correct ec i wqas using nearly triple the recc doses ,,whenever i changed to 12 hours the plants suddenly say no dont like this shit and proceed to die which ended up with underweight under developed buds and according to the person who sampled it didnt taste the best either,,growth in veg was acceptable though

with the canna aqua it was a case of pour in stated amounts let it mix ,,hey presto correct ec and ph 6.2 ,,come back the next day and ph the same ec the same and the tank levels getting consumed nicely,,,

but each to their own

 

[Alex-F]

tobacco with weed uck why ruin your weed with nasty ass tobacco makes me wanna puke

It's a european thing

 

[Guest]

Hashish
Hash Oil
How To Make Honey Oil
The Boffo Butane-PVC Hash Oil Extractor
Trash leaf to honey oil in minutes
by Indra



This method has its basis in a fascinating industrial extraction method known as Supercritical Fluid Extraction. It uses totally over-the-counter butane gas (8 oz can, camping supply store) as the extraction solvent, and requires nothing even remotely suspicious or difficult to purchase.

The only other thing needed is about $2.00 worth of PVC pipe: a section 1.5 (one and a half) feet long and 1 & 3/4" diameter (outer diameter I believe), and two end caps. Threaded PVC is not necessary.

For reasons not yet clear to those of us investigating these things unofficially, butane and CO2 (and perhaps other gas/solvents with similar ultra-low-boiling properties) selectively solvate the desirable fraction(s) of cannabis oils, pulling out only a beautiful amber honey oil and leaving the undesirable vegetative oils, waxes, chlorophyll, etc. behind in the plant matter.

Even unsmokable shade leaves produce a wonderfully clean and potent gold oil with this method.(So if you grow save those shade leaves!)

I have every reason to suspect that this would work splendidly to extract a super-strong and tasty oil from gross, unpalatable schwag commercial pot too, and of course, the better grade of herb you put it in, the better the resulting oil.



Method:

1) In one of the PVC end caps, drill a single small hole in the center. This hole should be correctly sized to snugly receive the little outlet nozzle of your butane can.

2) In the other end cap, drill a group of 5 or 6 small holes clustered in the center (like a pepper shaker).

3) After putting a piece of paper towel or coffee filter inside it for filtration, put the end cap with several holes on one end of the pipe. Push it on there real tight. This is the bottom.

4) Fill the pipe up with plant matter that has been pulverized into a coarse powder. You want it filled, but not packed down. (Full pipe estimated at 1.5 oz capacity, but this is a guess. I did not weigh it.)

5) Place the top end cap on the pipe. Again, push it on as securely as you can by hand.

6) Find a location outdoors with a decent breeze. You want these butane fumes to be quickly carried away. Seriously.

6a) Mount the pipe (single hole-side up) over a vessel that can hold 300mL+. Beakers are perfect. A lab stand and clamp are ideal for the mounting, but a regular shop clamp or anything that can hold it sturdily is fine. (Avoid metal if you can, to reduce the chance of sparks.) Position the bottom end of the pipe immediately over (1-2") the receiving vessel to eliminate splatter loss.

7) Turn the butane gas can upside down and dispense the gas into the pipe via the single top hole. A whole 8-oz can takes about 10-12 seconds to evacuate. Be brave, swift, and careful. A spark at this moment would spell disaster since you have basically created an incendiary explosive device that is leaking.

8) When you've exhausted the can into the pipe, back off to a nice distance and let it do its thing. The butane moves down the pipe, extracting the cannabis as it goes. When it gets to the bottom (~30 seconds after dispensing), it begins to drain into the receiving vessel. Notice the pale, glowing yellow-green-gold hue of the extract.



Over approximately five to eight minutes, the butane extract will finish draining from the pipe to the receiving vessel. Maintain caution with the pipe, however, since there is a lot of residual butane still evaporating from within the pipe (notice the stream of fumes coming from the top hole).

When it slows down to a drop every few seconds, you can tap on the top hole with your finger and it will help push the last of the liquid butane out (or one can gently blow into the top hole to do the same thing). Remember, NO SMOKING, unless you wish to immolate yourself in grand fashion.

Being very low-boiling and volatile, the collected butane will likely begin boiling at ambient temperature.

The receiving vessel will gradually frost up as the butane cools it down, slowing down its rate of evaporation, but you can speed this up again simply by holding it in your hands. A better way is to set it in a saucepan containing a little bit of warm water.



Watch the butane start bubbling madly with the increase in temperature and marvel at its low boiling point. Again, be doing this outdoors with a nice breeze! It takes about 20 minutes or so to allow the butane to evaporate, or quicker if you help it along. You are left with a deep amber, almost orange oil of amazing purity.

The best way to collect and store the oil is probably to let all of the butane evaporate off and then redissolve the oil in some anhydrous or high-% alcohol, and then pour this into a vial and let it sit out for a day or two to allow the alcohol to evaporate.

Trying to transfer the oil into a small container while it is still solvated by the butane is too risky. I learned the hard way about this, thanks to the volatile temperament of butane.

I had filled a vial almost all the way to the top and was preparing to drop those last couple drops in, so that cleverly, I could let the last of the butane evaporate from the vial and the oil would all be neatly contained.

But when the last drop hit the mother lode in the vial, it changed the temperature of the solution in the vial upward by a hair and it all super boiled out of the vial and onto my fingers, which of course startled me and caused me to drop the vial.

I suggest dissolving it in alcohol as I mentioned above. If you can get pure or 99% isopropanol (isopropyl), use it, because THC's photosensitivity reportedly does not occur in isopropanol.



The final product is a deep yellow-amber oil of the highest quality, incredibly pure and potent. I remember well some of the prime honey oil hash oils that hit the market in the late 1970s, and this stuff stands up to (if not exceeds) any of them.

It's amazing how this method extracts only the good fraction and leaves the junk in the weed. But that's exactly what it does.

Note also that this oil has a somewhat higher melt/vaporization point than traditional hash oils; the traditional dispensing method (dipping a needle or paper clip in, getting some goop on the end, and warming it with a flame to get it to drip off into your bowl) still works with this stuff, but it seems you have to be more careful with it because it doesn't heat to liquid state as quickly or in the same manner, and it can more easily be allowed to burn up on your needle. So be careful.

Those who prefer a tincture-like preparation can of course thin the product a little with a bit of warm high-percentage alcohol like Everclear or 90-whatever-% isopropyl, then drop it onto buds or let a joint absorb some, then let the alcohol evaporate.

I also observed that unlike hash oil derived from traditional methods, this product is not immediately soluble in room-temp alcohol; it needed to be warmed before it dissolved fully.

So there it is. Spread the word far and wide: honey oil is BACK



How To Make Red Honey Oil
1) completely dry and grind material to a powder. soak material in petroleum ether for several hours, but less than 24 hours. strain, saving the pet ether/oil mixture... pressing out the material thoroughly to get as much solvent/oil out of the material as possible. filter the solvent/oil mixture through a coffee filter.

2) extract pet ether/oil mixture w/ an ~ 4% sodium hydroxide (NaOH) in alcohol solution three times.

3) acidify the NaOH/oil mixture w/ HCl (diluted 2:1 or 3:1 with distilled water) to pH 3. filter the acidified mixture through a coffee filter.

4) extract acidified mixture w/ pet ether three times. evaporate off pet ether to yield red honey oil! NOTES: * this recipe works well w/ small quantities of material.

when dealing w/ large material quantities, replace 1) w/ ->
- dry, grind and soak material in 91% isopropyl alcohol for three days.
- strain and filter, saving alcohol/oil mixture.
- evaporate off alcohol down to ~ 250 - 300 ml of alcohol/oil mixture.
- extract alcohol/oil mixture w/ pet ether three times.

* extract = placing two solutions in a seperatory funnel, mixing thoroughly, and allowing the two phases to separate... given alcohol & pet ether >> pet ether = top, alcohol = bottom pet ether & NaOH soln >> pet ether = top, NaOH soln = bottom (same for pet ether and acidified NaOH solution)

* to make the NaOH solution - mix 40 mg of pure NaOH pellets into 500 ml of distilled water until dissolved thoroughly. then add 500 ml of absolute grain alcohol (everclear), yielding ~ 1 liter of the sodium hydroxide solution.

* white gas can be substituted for pet ether (verified) muriatic acid (swimming pools) can be substituted for HCl (verified) lye can be substituted for NaOH (verified)

* when dealing with leaf material, soak the material in cold water six times, for four hours each time (24 hours total), discarding the water after each soak. the material should be completely dried after the water soakings before extracting with alcohol or pet ether.



Material In : Oil Out

leaves 100g : 1g
commercial 30g : 1g
flowers/trim 10g : 1g

Starting with 1/4 lb. of leaves yields less than 1g of oil.
Starting with 1/4 lb. of commercial weed yields about 4g of oil.
Starting with 1/4 lb. of good weed yields about 12g of oil.

A+++ flowers ????? have not been there yet as far as measurable quantities, but should be better than 8:1.

When the return is smaller than 1/2 gram, it usually sticks to whatever it is evaporated in, making storage a mess at best. the following is recommended:

- leaf runs of 1 to 2 lbs w/ 1st extraction into alcohol
- flower runs of 1 to 2 oz. w/ 1st extraction into pet ether

* pet ether 1st extractions yield a cleaner/clearer goo.

* especially with leaves extracted with alcohol... when extracting an alcohol/oil mixture with pet ether, the phase separation can be very difficult if not impossible to visually identify. in such cases, measurement of fluid volumes going into and coming out of the sep funnel is about the only way to accurately make the separation... and even then, there may be a need to extract more than three times and/or back washing the pet ether/oil extract with alcohol to clean it up.


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[TBug]

High jack! WOW, thanks alot! I will try that out and check into that book as well! peace brotha, TBug