Canadian Marijuana Market

[TychoMonolyth]

I paint 'em all with the same brush because,

-they're new and inexperienced
-few make use of resources such as this site (watching people catch grow advice on insta, discord, reddit, etc, is very painful)
-they are inherently consumers, preoccupied with work/life. Growing weed is like rearing crotch goblins, takes up time, money and mental resource.

Of course a significant portion are like yourself and will become self sufficient, but that is the minority to my eye.

Take any activity. 9/10 people buy the equipment and use it once/infrequently. 1/10 carries on. Gym equipment, sports, recreation, pretty much anything ya throw a dart at.

We swam in our pool daily the first year. Only twice this year.

Anyone want to buy a pool?

 

[Switcher56]

I paint 'em all with the same brush because,

-they're new and inexperienced
-few make use of resources such as this site (watching people catch grow advice on insta, discord, reddit, etc, is very painful)
-they are inherently consumers, preoccupied with work/life. Growing weed is like rearing crotch goblins, takes up time, money and mental resource.

Of course a significant portion are like yourself and will become self sufficient, but that is the minority to my eye.

Take any activity. 9/10 people buy the equipment and use it once/infrequently. 1/10 carries on. Gym equipment, sports, recreation, pretty much anything ya throw a dart at.

Nah! Don't eat that Elmer. Statistically, your incorrect. Yes 1/10 will be a serious breeder for whatever reason, but not at the 4 plant count. OTOH, volume of people just sticking their toes in the water will be 65% You are forgetting the other 25 There is a reason YOMIL. West coaster to boot!

 

[Tynehead Tom]

lot of good points raised in this discussion and I think for the most part you guys are right.
The vast majority of people out there who try thier hand at growing will not become self sufficient. Not right now anyways.
I do however see a day coming where more people will be growing just simply due to access. Right now there is very limitted sale of legal clones and seeds but once these starting materials become readily availlable to everyone on a scale that is able to maintain the demand..... we will see pot plants become a much more common garden plant. That said..... nearly everyone eats vegetables that are stupid simple to grow at home but only a small percentage of vegetable eaters in canada are gardeners.

personally I am happy that everyone and thier grandma aren't growing all around us and can be relieved that thier isn't neighbors with hermies and males left unchecked to ruin my crops LOL

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

I think a large portion of people know where to get free seeds or plants. At least around here. Someone said "I thought about buying some seeds from the store but they were 25$ each!" Old veggie and flower gardeners wont pay 25$ a seed lol, but there are thousands and millions of free seeds just hanging out.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

The novelty of home growing will wear off. Most will produce schwag and even the 4 plant indoor growers still buy weed. I would estimate at least half are growing hash grade based on what I saw last year.

Haha. Way worse than that. I have seen many of my clients plants. They're all trash. They have no idea what they are doing and the weather come Sept tends to get harsh around here. They won't have anything but some shit to make edibles with. There will be exceptions but mostly it's low quality. Even the one guy I know who really takes it seriously reads forums like this etc he isn't producing anything particularly great and still buys from me because of it.

 

[bigupcanada]

You guys are making it sound like its super difficult to grow weed OUTSIDE. You sure you're not just trying to comfort youself prices will not fall?

If you're a complete moron that buys the wrong soil/overwaters or underwaters, too much nutes or not enough than ok. Yeah.

I've been gorilla growing since I was 12 years old. I simply brought in good soil, made sure they were in full sun, mixed in water crystals and threw time release ferts on top. Did not doing and LSTing unless topping counts
Never hauled in water unless it was a drought and flushed the plants 3 weeks before harvest

I've never got a bad yield and the weed was always good. Yes, i had access to good clones but now so does everyone

Now that I'm growing in my backyard and access them everyday they are trained so well (bushes, not xmas trees like in the gorilla days) massive and i know the weed will be good. Simply mixed promix with 30% triple mix added in and used the lucas formula

My mom is growing for the first time ever. Only advice i gave her was what soil to use and to use the Lucas formula. Shes going to yield well over a pound per plant of good weed easily

Indoors. Yea, you gotta know what you're doing. Outdoors? If you do 30 minutes of research you can grow good weed with any chemical fertilizer as long as you are growing good genetics

It is not hard to grow weed. Yes, many first time growers are stupid and some always will be but people like that also wouldn't know how to grow a tomato plant.

I'm not saying prices will drop like crazy but my house hold, my whole families and friends will all have enough GOOD weed to last them over a year unless rippers fuck it up. About 1 out of 5 houses have plants in the backyard. Way more than last year

Only seen two backyards with shitty plants. One were autos and one were where a guy used soil found on the side of his house and didn't start the seeds until July

If the genetics are good, good weed is not at all hard to grow and even if you can get something 2x as good from the black market, no one wants to pay for something they can EASILY grow themselves

I was hoping dude who said he gets over 3k when selling in 5 packs would comment lmao. Really wanted to hear what strain fetches that much. Also the 100k cutting.... where you at??

 

[Mikell]

I'm pretty racist against outdoor. All tastes the same to me. Pine needles and dirt. Small wonder it's bulk fuel for extractors. Everytime I smell pine in an extract I chuckle to myself. And outloud. Leafy nonsense.

It is a weed, yes. But like anything easy to fuck it up. I'd say about half the newbies I know planted out early.

I'd feel bad for the local grow store workers if they weren't mouth breathers.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

lol

 

[Bmac1]

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of them are stupider than that. - George Carlin.

 

[billy_big_bud!]

i have never had outdoor that wasnt completely obvious that it was outdoor. it all has the tel tale outdoor taste and smell. it is unmistakable. i have always pondered on why as all the genetics have been different yet the finished product always reveals the origins of its cultivation. anyone have a theory on why this is?

 

[Mikell]

Dirt

 

[Tynehead Tom]

I dunno about you guys but I would bet money you could not tell the difference between the weed I grow in my greenhouse and the weed I grow in my grow rooms. With some strains being an exception. Not boasting but well grown weed is what it is. I have hundreds of pictures ..... but doesn't matter.
I don't sell my bud regardless so there's nothing to prove.

I still think the vast majority of regular tokers are not growing thier own 'quality' weed outdoors nor are they running out in droves to build out a modest grow room to grow thier 4 plants.
I've been toking for 35 years and growing for the better part of 30..... of all my friends that also grew for a decade or more back in the 90's/2000's , only 2 are currently growing..... well kinda 3 ..... but I'll explain.
Our group of friends , all over 40, most over 50, couple over 70. We were all eye ball deep in cash cropping in the 90's and 2000's. I ducked out for a few years in 05.
anyhow
one has his license before the mmar was a thing and still grows his 75 plants on a clock work rotation. He buys clones from the established underground clone house every crop. Pink Kush, Violator, death bubba , black tuna ect ect. His weed is 4 on the 5 scale. Average decent commercial.
grower 2 is , or was, a long time outdoor guerilla farmer on the sunshine coast. Averaging 1200 plants a season, he is a very experienced farmer. Recently he moved up here to the chilcotins and bought a 10 acre hobby farm and has piles of room to build a greenhouse, even a modest one like mine..... has free fertilizer from the cows, chickens ect.... loads of privacy and southern exposure..... has me just down the road with 3 x 50 caliber ammo cans litterally brimming with seeds of all types and what does he do???
He buys seeds from Crop King and builds a 4 x 8 hole in the ground with a flat roof of plastic sheeting. and another roof of black white for light dep. His garden, 2 years in a row now has been a shadow of his former farming fame and I just shake my head in wonder... how can this be???

another guy over 50, long time cash cropper. Built a small 4x4 x6 high metal box with a blurple LED and sealed it up with a tiny fan and grew some clones i gave him. Well by week 3 of flower there was so much powdery mildew on his plant he was trying to spray it away and grew that plant to harvest. I make sure i don't ever smoke the weed he has LOL

So I find it real hard to believe that anyone but dedicated growers are actually supplying themselves off a properly set up room with quality genetics that they researched before buying and growing.
most tokers I know up here in the cariboo who own thier own homes and large properties would rather buy from a grower they trust or drive to williams lake to the weed store.

I always tell my friends.... nope, I ain't selling you my weed but I'll "give" you the seeds so you can go home and grow your own.... most decline LOL

 

[yahooman]

i have never had outdoor that wasnt completely obvious that it was outdoor. it all has the tel tale outdoor taste and smell. it is unmistakable. i have always pondered on why as all the genetics have been different yet the finished product always reveals the origins of its cultivation. anyone have a theory on why this is?

In general I would agree,outdoor bud tastes and smells much different than indoor in most cases...
However,to I have a few cuts I have saved over the last 8 years or so that u would swear is indoor bud!!very high quality,tight,resinous indoor looking buds
2 of which are a pheno of fruit loops og(although its more sucessable to bud rot the finished bud looks like AAA indoor,another that I stumbled across last year is jäger schnitzel x purple punch,smells like grapes and the bud is insane looking.eleven roses is another

And about the pine thing,not every outdoor strain smells of pine,I actually only come across a couple every few years

 

[yahooman]

I dunno about you guys but I would bet money you could not tell the difference between the weed I grow in my greenhouse and the weed I grow in my grow rooms. With some strains being an exception. Not boasting but well grown weed is what it is. I have hundreds of pictures ..... but doesn't matter.
I don't sell my bud regardless so there's nothing to prove.

I still think the vast majority of regular tokers are not growing thier own 'quality' weed outdoors nor are they running out in droves to build out a modest grow room to grow thier 4 plants.
I've been toking for 35 years and growing for the better part of 30..... of all my friends that also grew for a decade or more back in the 90's/2000's , only 2 are currently growing..... well kinda 3 ..... but I'll explain.
Our group of friends , all over 40, most over 50, couple over 70. We were all eye ball deep in cash cropping in the 90's and 2000's. I ducked out for a few years in 05.
anyhow
one has his license before the mmar was a thing and still grows his 75 plants on a clock work rotation. He buys clones from the established underground clone house every crop. Pink Kush, Violator, death bubba , black tuna ect ect. His weed is 4 on the 5 scale. Average decent commercial.
grower 2 is , or was, a long time outdoor guerilla farmer on the sunshine coast. Averaging 1200 plants a season, he is a very experienced farmer. Recently he moved up here to the chilcotins and bought a 10 acre hobby farm and has piles of room to build a greenhouse, even a modest one like mine..... has free fertilizer from the cows, chickens ect.... loads of privacy and southern exposure..... has me just down the road with 3 x 50 caliber ammo cans litterally brimming with seeds of all types and what does he do???
He buys seeds from Crop King and builds a 4 x 8 hole in the ground with a flat roof of plastic sheeting. and another roof of black white for light dep. His garden, 2 years in a row now has been a shadow of his former farming fame and I just shake my head in wonder... how can this be???

another guy over 50, long time cash cropper. Built a small 4x4 x6 high metal box with a blurple LED and sealed it up with a tiny fan and grew some clones i gave him. Well by week 3 of flower there was so much powdery mildew on his plant he was trying to spray it away and grew that plant to harvest. I make sure i don't ever smoke the weed he has LOL

So I find it real hard to believe that anyone but dedicated growers are actually supplying themselves off a properly set up room with quality genetics that they researched before buying and growing.
most tokers I know up here in the cariboo who own thier own homes and large properties would rather buy from a grower they trust or drive to williams lake to the weed store.

I always tell my friends.... nope, I ain't selling you my weed but I'll "give" you the seeds so you can go home and grow your own.... most decline LOL

I agree with you 100%
Well grown outdoor done by dedicated experienced growers is very nice

 

[yahooman]

The biggest mistake amateur outdoor growers make is they don't feed close to enough and pull plants way way too early!!!

 

[Mikell]

Pine, dirt, bug shit, whatever ya want to call the smell, it's there amongst the half trimmed larfy buds.

 

[yahooman]

Pine, dirt, bug shit, whatever ya want to call the smell, it's there amongst the half trimmed larfy buds.

I hear ya pal!!

I get neighbours/friends giving me stuff to try every year...I'll only smoke from one or two guys grows...the rest I take so not to offend but just give it back away
Some stuff is outright offensive!!!lol

 

[yahooman]

I grow 4 varieties from clone I've saved over the years and ill buy seeds from 4-5 strains I've read good things about to try out.once in a while you hit gold
My lemon tree cut does exceptionally well outdoors and smells/tastes even more lemony than it does run indoor.very resinous too,makes absolute killer extracts
Can't wait to see how my 6 tropicanna cookies fem phenols will do as we'll..3 have a pronounced orange smell and a male is super orangey smelling!!
I've taken pollen from him this spring fr an indoor run and in about a week or so I'll be pollinating my tropicanna cookies(the 2 most orange smelling)orangina,lemon tree(I think this cross will kick ass!) and peanut butter breath

 

[Mikell]

I did forget to agree with your point that some outdoor does stand out. Preeeetty rare though.

Plus like I say I'm racist towards outdoor. My first thought is always about gifting it away to the homeless.

 

[mikeross]

Plus like I say I'm racist towards outdoor. My first thought is always about gifting it away to the homeless.

Prices seem to be stable and moving up slowly. BC Lower Mainland... 1200 real nice looking blueberry, 1400 Alaskan Thunder, 1500 Pink Kush. I would say all are trips, most would consider borderline quads. Not singles either @ those prices... not bad IMO.