Canada Mulls Mandatory Minimum Sentences for Grows

[fatigues]

The Canadian Press reports:
"...However, mandatory minimum sentences of nine months still remain in place if there are aggravating factors to the marijuana grow-op, such as endangering the health of a child or creating a public safety hazard."

Disgraceful. Once again, the media fails to note the most important aggravating factor - YOU GROW IN AN APARTMENT OR RENTED DWELLING.

Don't you think the so called "aggravating factor" which would automatically apply by default to over a third of Canadian households might be the one you would mention as being the most relevant?

This is deliberately withholding critically important information from the Canadian public.

This is INFURIATING.

 

[fatigues]

mandatory minimums!

how long will be before tons of bud from the USA is exported to Canada?

btw is hash mentioned in this new bill?

Yes. Twelve months for production of hash, hash oil, resin, cannabudder, (including brownies and cookies) and the purpose is for trafficking as a mandatory minimum sentence; 18 months minimum mandatory sentence if the aggravating factors are present (rented premises, potential security hazard to kids, potential public safety hazard, traps in grow).

Bubble hash bags may soon be very dangerous in Canada. Baking cookies for sale? Ditto.

 

[Norrath]

having the manditory minimum apply to rented space is playing hard.

in my hopes and dreams they'll amend those 4 amendments...especially that rented one..

 

[antimatter]

http://www.cannabisfacts.ca/BillC15explained.html

 

[fatigues]

In my hopes and dreams, the Iggy which approved Bill C-15 last March to avoid a non-confidence vote will be embarassed by a press which could note that in May 2009, the Liberal Party of Canada adopted legalization of marijuana as part of its national party platform and, in August of 2009, a Liberal party that said it would no longer cooperate with the government in passing legislation.

Given that that would require the Press to actually do some research on the subject, I doubt that will happen. They seem utterly unable to report on this story. I guess that's a clear sign that the spin doctors in the Liberals who would ordinarily feed the reporters their talking points, pointing out the problems in the current legislation, are clearly not doing so right now.

Given the failure to spin, and the current national opinion poll results, I expect this is asking for too much for the Liberals to manufacture a crisis over university-students growing a single plant in a dorm room going to jail for nine months to take a stand on it.

(Cowards)

Still, if the Liberals refuse to back anything further in connection with C-15, the bill goes nowhere. The whole Bill dies if the Liberals won't play ball in the House now. The whole debate on the Bill has been re-opened by the Senate's amendment.

If you aren't used to this in Canada as a matter of parliamentary procedure - that's because it almost never happens. It is exceedingly rare for the Senate to amend a government bill.

The Canadian Press writes in confusion:
"It is not clear what will become of the changes when the amended bill is sent back to the Commons, where it must again be ratified before it can become law."

That's code for a Parliamentary beat reporter writing about something that is so rare, that he or she does not even know how it works, procedurally.

 

[GreenintheThumb]

My heart goes out to Canadian growers everywhere. This is going to be a bloody disaster. Best of luck, good vibes.

 

[chef]

Never thought I'd see the day, when the US was pushing forward & CA, NL were in retreat. Crazy!

 

[mr noodles]

more fuel to the separatist fire !

quebecers citizens dont believe in pothead persecution period . we try to find a solution for our overpopulated jails and the neo con dumbass will just drown the whole system . the cost of marijuana war will be gargantuan and the last thing we want here is a taxes raise for stupid bullshit like that .

the separatist movement in quebec was dead and buried but since the last 8 months harper and coe, ignatieff ,layton just proven that canada cannot work anymore.they argue that the conservative minority can do whatever they want and the rest of the option suck and are all the same = cowards

believe me in less than 6 months the whole separatist ideology will be back on track and the only people to blame will be the conservative .

the damage they do to the canadian federation is criminal and might be the swan song for canadian unity .

a lots of peoples i know that used to be federalist and proud canadian told me they are feed up and start to think the whole idea is not that bad when you look at the whole canadian situation . this time jean cretien is not around to save the situation . ignatieff will fail placed in the same situation chretien faced at the last referendum .

c-15 is not only bad for pothead but for all canadians , the collateral damage in the provincial jurisdiction create high tide of protestation here .

think about it

Harper and coe = enemy of canadians .

harper motto is : killing canada is my buisness

harper = separatist

 

[j6p]

Originally Posted by fatigues
Still, if the Liberals refuse to back anything further in connection with C-15, the bill goes nowhere. The whole Bill dies if the Liberals won't play ball in the House now. The whole debate on the Bill has been re-opened by the Senate's amendment.

This is probably the best outcome, given the dire circumstances. Sending it back to Commons buys time to alert the public to just how evil this thing is. Hopefully it will get less support this time around and die, die, die.

 

[fatigues]

"Can you clarify a couple points for me (again) bro?

c)the property is located in a residential area and presents a potential public safety hazard.

This one seems kinda vague to me...they could call any grow a potential fire hazard no??"

It's hella-vague. There is the doom and gloom interpretation of this subsection, and there is the less disastrous interpretation, too.

Kirk Tousaw is on the doom and gloom side. I'm not. I'll point you to that discussion here and you can make up your own mind on it.