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Can you grow with cold cathode computer lighting?
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Lord Doobie
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ROTFLMAO!
Just curious when you guys last went outside...
Just curious when you guys last went outside...
Hahaha...I know....this whole thing is nuts. I could easily just grow my weed in a closet under a hps and a bit of panda strung around, but I'm way too nerdy for that. I suspect a lot of people are skeptical and just being polite, but at the same time, I think a lot of heads are genuinely interested to see how this tracks out. Nobody really knows for sure what will happen and that is the cool part. But I do need to get out more, definitely 
Cork, cheers mate, haven't grown a heavy indica for a long time - it's gonna be sweet to have some smoke that isn't The Pure!
Cork, cheers mate, haven't grown a heavy indica for a long time - it's gonna be sweet to have some smoke that isn't The Pure!
So it occurred to me that I never checked out the new bulbs' spectrums apart from the uv bulb. The UV is too hard to take a decent representative photo of, but I can describe it. There is a good solid band of purple uv, then smaller bands. It has a blue band just after the uv, then a big gap, then a green band, then a small gap, then a weaker but definitely there brownish band, I think between yellow and red.
StealthDragon, how accurate do you think you were at taking this earlier shot of your red logisys?
Because check out my red bitspower!
*confused*
StealthDragon, how accurate do you think you were at taking this earlier shot of your red logisys?
Because check out my red bitspower!
*confused*
I suck at sketchup.
The little box is a pc on it's side with ccfl scrog, only problem is I can't really figure how to easily water and tend to the bases of the plants. I was thinking maybe sit it at a slight incline and run some mini aeroponics/nft or maybe attaching a rez to the bottom. Then I was like FUCK THAT that's too complicated.
I just want to put some lights and plants in a box and watch em grow. I'm so tired of engineering shit lately, I have 5 different lil boxes, it gets tedious maintaining them all. I think I'm gonna just keep it simple for now and throw in my lil reflector i made with 6 ccfls and veg fer a week or 2. Plants, light, fans. (I'm working on that right now btw)
When my cycle ends in about 2-3 weeks I'll "retrofit" my PC with ccfl and do a 1 time veg/flower, but in the mean time I'm going to keep an eye out for a tube I might be able to use for that helix/bass tube idea because I think it would be easier to build that then to remodel my pc. thoughts?
*edit I think my red picture is pretty accurate, there's only 2 bands a red and an amber. The amber is barely visible on the longest arc to the left. but looking at your picture, I'm confused.
To water you could just get a tube, put it in watering apparatus, put other end of tube at soil, lift watering apparatus... boom watering.
I've been looking for a picture of a watering can bottle, type thing, it has a long curved tube at the top and you squeeze it and the water comes out, would work too, but wish i could find the picture!
EDIT: its probably not even used for watering plants that is why i can't find it >.<
EDITx2: kk found it http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/dotcoms_2072_1094510635
I've been looking for a picture of a watering can bottle, type thing, it has a long curved tube at the top and you squeeze it and the water comes out, would work too, but wish i could find the picture!
EDIT: its probably not even used for watering plants that is why i can't find it >.<
EDITx2: kk found it http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/dotcoms_2072_1094510635
Hmmm, you made me curious Scrub. I looked at my red again and found a very small aqua band that I didn't see before, but it still looks nothing like yours. It's like strong red/amber with a tiny aqua band, and I looked at it several times to be sure. strange.
OMJebus- Thanks for the link. That's a good idea for getting the water in there, but It's not so much getting the water to them that would be the problem. If I used soil or coco, (which I want to) then I would only have maybe 4" depth and would have to keep very close tabs on it, and reaching through buds and those lights all the time just makes me uncomfortable. Also I would need to drain it somehow, and a few other things, it was getting too complex so I said fuck it fer now. I'm sure I could figure somehting out but I don't have the time or $ right now for anything real complex.
OMJebus- Thanks for the link. That's a good idea for getting the water in there, but It's not so much getting the water to them that would be the problem. If I used soil or coco, (which I want to) then I would only have maybe 4" depth and would have to keep very close tabs on it, and reaching through buds and those lights all the time just makes me uncomfortable. Also I would need to drain it somehow, and a few other things, it was getting too complex so I said fuck it fer now. I'm sure I could figure somehting out but I don't have the time or $ right now for anything real complex.
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Hmmm wow. Well that is very strange about the spectrums. I still haven't looked at the bitspower blue or orange, I'll get onto that. All I can say is that it looks like you will have a much more targetted LED effect going on, yeah? My photos were all like that, it's pretty accurate representation of the colours. The room was quite dark.
I knocked up a 500 litre/hr aquarium pump to irrigate my cupboard. My res is just a 10 litre bucket and I put it in front of the open cupboard and connect the tubes and water. So the 'pod will be the same routine with some tubing (I actually use airhose) entering the cab just above the surface of the coco, so no water will ever be near or above the lights...and like I mentioned, they seem airtight at the "tip" anyway. I'm going to tape in a circular disc of white shadecloth on top of the coco so it doesn't get sucked into the space time continuum into the black hole of my carbon filter.
I do like your spiral design - they make wind catcher things like that - very trippy. It's interesting but yeah, access could be a problem. I actually have a small motor here and I can get these spinny platform things, and one day I want to have a rotating 1 plant grow. So maybe that is a direction to look in.
Pineboy, I'm dieing to know what you were trying to upload! Does this help?
Click "go advanced" if you don't see that stuff. I use the bottom option.
Edit: sorry Stealth, I see that wasn't the problem. I was just gonna sit the bucket in a large pot's water catching tray, and have two so I can go drain one.
I knocked up a 500 litre/hr aquarium pump to irrigate my cupboard. My res is just a 10 litre bucket and I put it in front of the open cupboard and connect the tubes and water. So the 'pod will be the same routine with some tubing (I actually use airhose) entering the cab just above the surface of the coco, so no water will ever be near or above the lights...and like I mentioned, they seem airtight at the "tip" anyway. I'm going to tape in a circular disc of white shadecloth on top of the coco so it doesn't get sucked into the space time continuum into the black hole of my carbon filter.
I do like your spiral design - they make wind catcher things like that - very trippy. It's interesting but yeah, access could be a problem. I actually have a small motor here and I can get these spinny platform things, and one day I want to have a rotating 1 plant grow. So maybe that is a direction to look in.
Pineboy, I'm dieing to know what you were trying to upload! Does this help?
Click "go advanced" if you don't see that stuff. I use the bottom option.
Edit: sorry Stealth, I see that wasn't the problem. I was just gonna sit the bucket in a large pot's water catching tray, and have two so I can go drain one.
canna cola
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With the rattling inverters, try running one and use a paddlepop stick to press on the transformer core and if it stops the rattle you could put a dab of silicone sealant between it and the circuit board, if silicone doesn't work try Araldite.
Just don't coat the transformer or it may overheat.
Sometimes electrolytic* capacitors rattle and you may be able to use the same fix for them.
*metal cans with a coloured plastic coating and leads usually out of one end though sometimes they are radial types that have a lead out of each end, in case you don't know what an electrolytic capacitor is.
I like StealthDragon's multi layer SCrOG screen idea, done in a cab where there is access to the pot it should work well as the whole plant would be lit evenly and as much of the light would be used as is possible.
Just don't coat the transformer or it may overheat.
Sometimes electrolytic* capacitors rattle and you may be able to use the same fix for them.
*metal cans with a coloured plastic coating and leads usually out of one end though sometimes they are radial types that have a lead out of each end, in case you don't know what an electrolytic capacitor is.
I like StealthDragon's multi layer SCrOG screen idea, done in a cab where there is access to the pot it should work well as the whole plant would be lit evenly and as much of the light would be used as is possible.
G'day canna. I think the 3d scrog idea is great, but you just can't access the plant as much as one would need to, I think. And there's always the possibility you could get a lot of leafy growth through a poor choice of colours, or two colours overlapping, etc. That's just my take.
Much earlier in the thread I posted suntan bed guy, who did ok growing his plants through tubes and they were the ridiculously long T12 tubes. So I guess it's not impossible. Maybe do precision trimming with very long thin scissors. Otherwise the best I can think of is a variation on my vortex (different angle), or hanging the bulbs loosely from the roof. But even then they'll be pretty fixed once it turns into a bush.
About the rattling - it doesn't particularly concern me. I mean, it rattles if I shake it, it doesn't make any noise or do anything in operation, except get a bit warm.
I mean, you know a lot more about this than me, should I be concerned that something's loose inside? Probably a dumb question, just that I sort of expected them to be non-german engineered type quality, so yeah, it didn't alarm me. I haven't even cracked one open, should I? I'm pretty sure I know the capacinatronators from your description.
Much earlier in the thread I posted suntan bed guy, who did ok growing his plants through tubes and they were the ridiculously long T12 tubes. So I guess it's not impossible. Maybe do precision trimming with very long thin scissors. Otherwise the best I can think of is a variation on my vortex (different angle), or hanging the bulbs loosely from the roof. But even then they'll be pretty fixed once it turns into a bush.
About the rattling - it doesn't particularly concern me. I mean, it rattles if I shake it, it doesn't make any noise or do anything in operation, except get a bit warm.
I mean, you know a lot more about this than me, should I be concerned that something's loose inside? Probably a dumb question, just that I sort of expected them to be non-german engineered type quality, so yeah, it didn't alarm me. I haven't even cracked one open, should I? I'm pretty sure I know the capacinatronators from your description.
apples
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So I said screw it and ordered the ones from newegg.
5red duals, 5blue duals=10bulbs of each=20 total
Got my pc power supply ready to go.
Lights should be here tomorrow or thursday.
Deciding on what to grow in. I might just make a box 18x18x18 and arange the lights like this...
the front walls would be a reverse of the back.
all criticism is welcome.
5red duals, 5blue duals=10bulbs of each=20 total
Got my pc power supply ready to go.
Lights should be here tomorrow or thursday.
Deciding on what to grow in. I might just make a box 18x18x18 and arange the lights like this...
the front walls would be a reverse of the back.
all criticism is welcome.
that looks pretty damn cool bro!Some criticism: I felt your arrows were drawn a little sloppy, but the stars, wow, the stars look great!!!!!
Other than that, if you really, really want my honest feelings, I think you should be hanging them vertically. If you get a moment, check out the vertical growing forum here on IC. It's tucked away and doesn't seem to get much traffic, but I'll share a secret with you - this is where I go when I want to see the really high yielding grows. The multiple grams per watt grows. There is just no getting around it - vertical/360* utilization of the bulb is the only way to get max yield. It's science. So I think for a grow using CCFLs, you will need to use every dirty trick in the book, and vertical is the most obvious.
See, we can pretty safely assume these lights don't penetrate far, right. So what happens to the plants in the middle of your box? You could put some bulbs on the roof, but either way, half of your light is shining away from your plants. Every single bulb is being used inefficiently.
Now imagine them all hanging from the roof. Between plants, through plants, however, it doesn't matter. 100% of every bulb is now shining all it's light directly in your cab.
Of course, it may be hard hanging 20 bulbs in a small box, lol. So maybe mix'n'match? But that's my honest opinion. Hope it helps.
And your idea is still cool anyway, I hate to be all negative, lol.
Aye, i can't wait to try a vertical, it wont be for another 5 months atleast probably.. but when i do it, psht its ON!!! im going for 1g/w but lol lets be realistic id be happy with i'd probably max out at .75
2x 36w PLL's vertical with 4-5 plants around each in a hydro dwc... pshttttt its fuckin done son! lol all in a speaker.. can't wait to do it!
2x 36w PLL's vertical with 4-5 plants around each in a hydro dwc... pshttttt its fuckin done son! lol all in a speaker.. can't wait to do it!
Yeah the scrog screen is still a very valid use of these lights imo, especially as an addition if you have an already dialled cfl cab. I'll be using the UV in my pll grow eventually btw.
OM, for real dawg, good to see you're clued up on vert I actually have a 500 litre plastic water tank with a removeable lid, and I'll be running a cooltubed hps (probably 250w but maybe a 400) when I get the suitable living arrangements. Dunno if you saw the thread on the vert forum about the dude who just stacked a bunch of buckets to give him his stadium, but it's one of those super simple genius ideas that noone had ever thought of - and so simple and cheap!!! Talk is cheap I guess, but I will be shooting for over 1gpw.
OM, for real dawg, good to see you're clued up on vert
I actually have a 500 litre plastic water tank with a removeable lid, and I'll be running a cooltubed hps (probably 250w but maybe a 400) when I get the suitable living arrangements. Dunno if you saw the thread on the vert forum about the dude who just stacked a bunch of buckets to give him his stadium, but it's one of those super simple genius ideas that noone had ever thought of - and so simple and cheap!!! Talk is cheap I guess, but I will be shooting for over 1gpw.
apples
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Judging by the grow from the other site (MG) I think my design would work well and perhaps better. However, since we are sorta testing new waters, we might aswell see how far we can push it right from the start. So..I agree with you about the vertical lights throughout the cab. Aslong as these wont burn my leaves I will try to build something like this...
....well I wont let me upload my pic to old gallery or new so...until next time.
....well I wont let me upload my pic to old gallery or new so...until next time.
Yeah the scrog screen is still a very valid use of these lights imo, especially as an addition if you have an already dialled cfl cab. I'll be using the UV in my pll grow eventually btw.
OM, for real dawg, good to see you're clued up on vert
I've been cued up, just broke! lol
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ScrubNinja again."
You make very good points bro, AlienBait sure seemed to get a lot more penetration than one would expect! So whatever you do, surprise us Every technique we've come up with so far has advantages and disadvantages, and in terms of good access (which is extremely important to me) your original idea makes a lot more sense than hanging them.
Very untested waters, it is exciting! Hope you can upload your other pic some time. Cheers OM! I get that a lot too!
Every technique we've come up with so far has advantages and disadvantages, and in terms of good access (which is extremely important to me) your original idea makes a lot more sense than hanging them.Very untested waters, it is exciting! Hope you can upload your other pic some time. Cheers OM! I get that a lot too!
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