Can "legit" breeders survive the onslaught of pollen-chucked seeds?

[tstick]

It's almost comical whenI read through the lineage of some of the super-complex hybrid seeds out there, now. Some of them are a page long! None of these seeds could have been worked for enough time to stabilize any selected traits. The chances of anyone actually reproducing a plant that resembles the parent plant is almost zero. If you grow a "Peanut Gorilla Cookie Pie" plant because you like the flavor of the cut you got in some dispo somewhere last year, then good luck at growing a plant that ends up being what you're after. You might want an orange terpene profile, but you might end up with something that is more like eucalyptus. You might like "rock hard nugs" but end up with a plant that looks like a tumbleweed with a lot of stems and leaves.

I TRY to look for anything from the old days, which hasn't become that complex. But, man, it's just gotten ridiculously complex out there!

And the other side of it is that some other breeders seem to just be collecting wild plants from SE Asia and when you grow out the seeds from them, you end up with stuff that grows like a desirable sativa, but ends up tasting like hemp.

Don't even get me started on auto flowers or fast flowers....GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

It's almost like IF and when I DO find a good, worked, simple seed lineage, do I want to tell everyone about it? Or, do I just keep it to myself?

 

[OldOneEye]

It's almost comical whenI read through the lineage of some of the super-complex hybrid seeds out there, now. Some of them are a page long! None of these seeds could have been worked for enough time to stabilize any selected traits. The chances of anyone actually reproducing a plant that resembles the parent plant is almost zero. If you grow a "Peanut Gorilla Cookie Pie" plant because you like the flavor of the cut you got in some dispo somewhere last year, then good luck at growing a plant that ends up being what you're after. You might want an orange terpene profile, but you might end up with something that is more like eucalyptus. You might like "rock hard nugs" but end up with a plant that looks like a tumbleweed with a lot of stems and leaves.

I TRY to look for anything from the old days, which hasn't become that complex. But, man, it's just gotten ridiculously complex out there!

And the other side of it is that some other breeders seem to just be collecting wild plants from SE Asia and when you grow out the seeds from them, you end up with stuff that grows like a desirable sativa, but ends up tasting like hemp.

Don't even get me started on auto flowers or fast flowers....GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

It's almost like IF and when I DO find a good, worked, simple seed lineage, do I want to tell everyone about it? Or, do I just keep it to myself?

Yep, that fast cheap buck everyone is looking for. I been ranting for years about this. Then our dumb asses go out and pay almost $10 a seed.

 

[Lester Beans]

It takes a long time to research genetics before a purchase these days.

Best course of action is cross your favorite plants and grow your own seeds.

 

[tstick]

I think this is why some well-known/well-reviewed seed breeders can ask for a high price. It takes time to work the lines. Plus, I suppose it's always a gamble for them to select for plants with the traits that will sell. Trends change. One day, everyone loves "grape"....A few months later, no one wants it. And then there they are, stuck with a worked line of seeds selected for grape terpenes.

And the real kicker is that there are still so many people looking for that elusive skunk....or the "real" Thai weed from the 70's...and nobody has gotten close to being able to replicate those original terpene profiles -other than claims made by people who weren't even alive back then. I confess that I took the bait a couple different times, hoping that the claims were true....but nope.

And, tbh, it would be difficult for just any small-time, personal-use grower to be able to grow enough plants in order to do a real selection for making their own, stabilized seed line.

 

[joepotsmoker]

Idk dude, I thought the same thing for a long time till I actually found real stabilization. And the 1st thing I found that can say
" this is the same as that"
Only reason being I can plainly see it smh...
I'm actually growing this right now and it's the only reason I'm saying anything, now nothing is 100% perfect but these fern variety keeps growing that fern out...
It's fucking crazy watching it grow. Well see if it matches.