Camelina meal vs soybean meal vs fish meal?

[Gforce420]

I'm trying to make my own bokashi bran close to Kashi blend. I noticed they used camelina meal in original recipe and now soybean. I've read alot of articles on how both camelina meal and soybean meal are used as substitutes for fish meal n feeds for price reasons. Fish meal is highdr in sodium but higher in protein. And i read soybean meal is not environmentally friendly. But the new Kashi blend uses soybean meal. I only use organic non-gmo as clean material as I can find so that shouldn't be a factor in any of the materials. And does anyone know at what rate I would add things like fish meal or camelina meal , insect frass, .sea-90 or any other inputs. I'm doing 20lbs (12lbs rice bran 8lbs wheat bran). I hope someone cane help me out

 

[Rocket Soul]

Youre more likely to get replies in the organic soil section, i think:

Organic Soil

Maybe mods could move this thread? @DARKSIDER @exploziv

 

[exploziv]

Moved.

 

[midwestkid]

I'm trying to make my own bokashi bran close to Kashi blend. I noticed they used camelina meal in original recipe and now soybean. I've read alot of articles on how both camelina meal and soybean meal are used as substitutes for fish meal n feeds for price reasons. Fish meal is highdr in sodium but higher in protein. And i read soybean meal is not environmentally friendly. But the new Kashi blend uses soybean meal. I only use organic non-gmo as clean material as I can find so that shouldn't be a factor in any of the materials. And does anyone know at what rate I would add things like fish meal or camelina meal , insect frass, .sea-90 or any other inputs. I'm doing 20lbs (12lbs rice bran 8lbs wheat bran). I hope someone cane help me out

i wonder why soybean meal would not be environmentally friendly?

 

[Rocket Soul]

If i recall correct you can use just food scraps. Many times you may be doing better just by adding a lot of variety. Bokashi is made to attract local bio-life, bacterias and such. Go for a practical approach and dont worry too much about getting everything absolutely perfect on the same go. Theres usually more things that matters apart from ingredients, dont look yourself blind on that one detail

 

[Creeperpark]

Hello and welcome friend. Keep us posted in your gardens.

 

[Gforce420]

i wonder why soybean meal would not be environmentally friendly?

I'm not really sure but if you Google why you would substitute soybean meal that is something said about it.

 

[Gforce420]

If i recall correct you can use just food scraps. Many times you may be doing better just by adding a lot of variety. Bokashi is made to attract local bio-life, bacterias and such. Go for a practical approach and dont worry too much about getting everything absolutely perfect on the same go. Theres usually more things that matters apart from ingredients, dont look yourself blind on that one detail

It's not really holding me back I made it my own bran. I want to know for my own knowledge plus I can't find any good info on what a proper ratio would be for adding other amenities to the recipe. There has to be a proper ratio. Just like when mixing soil 2 - 2.5 cups of nutrients ,2 cups rock dust , 1.5 -2 cups of calcium /buffer. I think with making bran it will be kind of the same way with 20lbs of bran when I add fish meal or camelina meal I'm thinking like 1- 1.5 cups of the amendments I decide to add but I would like to have some one with experience to confirm or maybe tell me what it should be.

 

[Rocket Soul]

It's not really holding me back I made it my own bran. I want to know for my own knowledge plus I can't find any good info on what a proper ratio would be for adding other amenities to the recipe. There has to be a proper ratio. Just like when mixing soil 2 - 2.5 cups of nutrients ,2 cups rock dust , 1.5 -2 cups of calcium /buffer. I think with making bran it will be kind of the same way with 20lbs of bran when I add fish meal or camelina meal I'm thinking like 1- 1.5 cups of the amendments I decide to add but I would like to have some one with experience to confirm or maybe tell me what it should be.

Im drain to waste coco so not the best person. I did some reading up on it some years ago when i was going to go for organic soil in sips, but my experience has been that with leds its just easier to go for a more adjustable approach of synth nutes and concentrate on other factors to increase quality of bud. The research i did on rollitup which has a fairly good organic section.

 

[Gforce420]

If i recall correct you can use just food scraps. Many times you may be doing better just by adding a lot of variety. Bokashi is made to attract local bio-life, bacterias and such. Go for a practical approach and dont worry too much about getting everything absolutely perfect on the same go. Theres usually more things that matters apart from ingredients, dont look yourself blind on that one detail

This will be my bokashi to use in the kitchen on kitchen scraps or as top dress. If you look at build a soil Kashi blend. It had rice brand, wheat brand, camelina meal ( now soybean meal), insect frass, molasses, LAB'S and em-1.then in post fermentation they add charged biochar with amino acid and Rootwise mycrob complete. I want to make something like this but no one can tell me at what rate to add these things at. But everyone seems to have an option on how I don't need all the things I want to use. Most of what I want to use will feed microbs durning the fermentation of the bran. Then I will use the fermented bran in the kitchen. Just like you are supposed too. So I am looking for the ratio I would want to add these inputs at.