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CalMag usage question

Grapefruitroop

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Yeah man IME, Leds plus coco means you cant never overfeed magnesium and calcium.....:pie:
You can get10lb bags for very cheap on amazon of Calcium Nitrate and Magnesium Sulphate.

I use Masterblend as base formula
 

stiff

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You don't need calmag. Just increase the base fertilizer you're already using. It has the same effect.
Also looks like you know what you're doing.
You DO need calmag if you grow in coco! Specially under LED lights.

You might have missed the part where he said he's on coco...or you're just wrong.
I grow outdoors in coco and give it less of it compared to whats in my tents,but you definitely need to provide some sort of calcium and magnesium.

How much you add is up to your lights and your tab water. The guideline on the bottle is a rough estimate and usually on the higher side,as the company wants to sell their products.

I have to agree with @Grow44DE
Your plants look fine, I'd also be continuing this way.
Besides that..Here's a little guide which helped me a lot when i was nrw to it, but be aware that I use 400w LED and also a 650w. You need less if your light isn't as powerful!

A seedling wants about 50mg of calcium per liter of water you give it.

A plant in veg about 40cm tall probably about 100mg/L

A plant in full flower probably around 150mg/L ..even more if it's a hungry plant.

Now also don't forget that your water might already have calcium and magnesium in it, you teally have to get it tested if you want to use the calmag precisely...or read the water analysis results usually on the homepage of your provider availablefor free,that's if its tab water.

As an example if your tab water has 80mg of calcium and 20mg magnesium and you goal is to give it 150mg cal and 50mg magnesium..then all you have to do is add that much that it gets you to those numbers.
It's just a calculation!
(Calcium to magnesium ratio should always be 3:1)
I hope it helps anyone new to coco and calmag
 

Orange's Greenhouse

Active member
You DO need calmag if you grow in coco! Specially under LED lights.
My plants tell a different story.

Say, what is special about calcium in a calmag bottle that calcium in calcium nitrate lacks? Is it energetically superior by overspending on it? Has it the correct information infused by reading the label on the bottle?
 

Chuckeye

Well-known member
You DO need calmag if you grow in coco! Specially under LED lights.

You might have missed the part where he said he's on coco...or you're just wrong.
I'm also seeing different results, I've Never added Cal/Mag !

I've grown with city water, store bought spring water and currently my well water and I feed with Mega Crop one part which has Cal/Mag incorporated in their formula.

Bottom right plant is in coco (5 days younger) and the other three are in ProMix HP. Phlizon 640w LED.

Water ppm's ~500, ph 7.5, current feed is 3.6g/gallon of MC, No extra Cal/Mag, No ph down !

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I just get the feeling adding Cal/Mag is suggested too often as The Fix. When more information is offered on the grow it usually turns out to be some other issue.

Cheers
 

Grapefruitroop

Active member
I think we need to streighten up things here....Its getting confusing....:geek:

The plants of the OP looks good and prolly no need of extra cal mag....

Its also true like Orange Greenhouse was sayn, that bottled calmag its just a cannabis green tax thing and it is waaaay overpriced at the point that can be considered rippoff....

But its also undeniable that plants between coco, LED lights and Co2 they do need an extra bump in N Ca and Mg COMPARED to the ones growing under HPS or natural sunlight...

Nutrients in powder form like calcium nitrate, magnesium sulphate etc are dirt cheap
For the same price of a 1 Liter Calcium Acetate from Canna nutrients i got 35 liters tank of the same exact nutrient, same exact concentration that is still sitting in the garage....
Peace to everyone and happy growing!!:tree:
 

ButterflyEffect

Well-known member
Yeah man IME, Leds plus coco means you cant never overfeed magnesium and calcium.....:pie:
You can get10lb bags for very cheap on amazon of Calcium Nitrate and Magnesium Sulphate.

I use Masterblend as base formula
Agreed. You're telling me that I can reliably make my own Calmag? That's something I need to look into
 

ButterflyEffect

Well-known member
You DO need calmag if you grow in coco! Specially under LED lights.

You might have missed the part where he said he's on coco...or you're just wrong.
I grow outdoors in coco and give it less of it compared to whats in my tents,but you definitely need to provide some sort of calcium and magnesium.

How much you add is up to your lights and your tab water. The guideline on the bottle is a rough estimate and usually on the higher side,as the company wants to sell their products.

I have to agree with @Grow44DE
Your plants look fine, I'd also be continuing this way.
Besides that..Here's a little guide which helped me a lot when i was nrw to it, but be aware that I use 400w LED and also a 650w. You need less if your light isn't as powerful!

A seedling wants about 50mg of calcium per liter of water you give it.

A plant in veg about 40cm tall probably about 100mg/L

A plant in full flower probably around 150mg/L ..even more if it's a hungry plant.

Now also don't forget that your water might already have calcium and magnesium in it, you teally have to get it tested if you want to use the calmag precisely...or read the water analysis results usually on the homepage of your provider availablefor free,that's if its tab water.

As an example if your tab water has 80mg of calcium and 20mg magnesium and you goal is to give it 150mg cal and 50mg magnesium..then all you have to do is add that much that it gets you to those numbers.
It's just a calculation!
(Calcium to magnesium ratio should always be 3:1)
I hope it helps anyone new to coco and calmag
Thanks. This is very helpful and informative.

The other reason I know I need Calmag is that I use rainwater with a TDS of 20ppm, so basically like RO water. For me, this post is about tying up loose ends in my grow and ensuring I don't miss anything.
 

ButterflyEffect

Well-known member
I think we need to streighten up things here....Its getting confusing....:geek:

The plants of the OP looks good and prolly no need of extra cal mag....

Its also true like Orange Greenhouse was sayn, that bottled calmag its just a cannabis green tax thing and it is waaaay overpriced at the point that can be considered rippoff....

But its also undeniable that plants between coco, LED lights and Co2 they do need an extra bump in N Ca and Mg COMPARED to the ones growing under HPS or natural sunlight...

Nutrients in powder form like calcium nitrate, magnesium sulphate etc are dirt cheap
For the same price of a 1 Liter Calcium Acetate from Canna nutrients i got 35 liters tank of the same exact nutrient, same exact concentration that is still sitting in the garage....
Peace to everyone and happy growing!!:tree:
Excellent points here.

Let's also keep in mind that my water source(rain) needs to be treated like RO so Calmag is a must for that alone.

That said, I'm interested in making my own from dry supplements if it can be done reliably
 

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