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calling seeds gear...

expealadocious

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Gear? talk about bastardization of terms...
When did this start??
Between this and calling every plant sample a "cut" it just doesnt make us seem too professional it seems.

Other fad terms that strike me as odd that I never caught wind of pre 2000ish:

Cookies
Fire
OG (everything is "og")
(Most laughably) elite

Example: an elite cut of og fire cookies...

Haha
 

waveguide

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even though language is codified in grammar and there are conventions associated with various "cultural authorities," language is for the living. you can't control it, don't try to fight life.
 

HidingInTheHaze

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Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Its pretty obvious to see why strains acquire the "og" "cookies" tag, one of the parents in the line is one of those strains no different then some like nl5xhaze or nl x afghan etc...
 
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Xray Kimono

Gear? talk about bastardization of terms...
When did this start??
Between this and calling every plant sample a "cut" it just doesnt make us seem too professional it seems.

Other fad terms that strike me as odd that I never caught wind of pre 2000ish:

Cookies
Fire
OG (everything is "og")
(Most laughably) elite

Example: an elite cut of og fire cookies...

Haha

Gear is just a suffix tag to designate that an afore mentioned has put in work for the necessary representation to have sufficient qualities to be identified with the name brand of said worker
 
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Xray Kimono

Need the right tools to do the right job, beans are tools or gear.
 

CoCoSativas

Active member
Gear? talk about bastardization of terms...
When did this start??
Between this and calling every plant sample a "cut" it just doesnt make us seem too professional it seems.

Other fad terms that strike me as odd that I never caught wind of pre 2000ish:

Cookies
Fire
OG (everything is "og")
(Most laughably) elite

Example: an elite cut of og fire cookies...

Haha

There's slang in every language, dialect or technical languages.

Just about everything on a construction site has a pet name. Even the boss.

Elite is more a description of a cut the masses would love in my opinion, a cut you could popularize. People using it to describe a certain group of elusive cuts well good for them they feel elite they can buy a fancy cut in their area.
 

Blayz'd

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Where I live people call good coke "the fire". lol They also call it food. Which is generic code for all drugs between dealers it seems. This elite cut stuff is lol. What's an elite cut? If I find a sick plant in a seed, which is outstanding.. do I then have an elite cut? Not sure. I'm guessing so. Still not sure what an elite cut is.
 

CoCoSativas

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Where I live people call good coke "the fire". lol They also call it food. Which is generic code for all drugs between dealers it seems. This elite cut stuff is lol. What's an elite cut? If I find a sick plant in a seed, which is outstanding.. do I then have an elite cut? Not sure. I'm guessing so. Still not sure what an elite cut is.

Depends who you talk too. Lots say elites are those huge famous cuts people drool over and fap too once they get them and people stroke their ego to get them (or offer half their money and soul)

To me a elite is a real standout badass... my slh qualifies to me...

That's elite to me but it's all who you talk too.
 

Scrappy-doo

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If you're ever lucky enough to grow and smoke an elite cut you'll understand why it's considered as such. These are plants that have been vetted and considered to be the best of the best.
 

CoCoSativas

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If you're ever lucky enough to grow and smoke an elite cut you'll understand why it's considered as such. These are plants that have been vetted and considered to be the best of the best.

A really excellent grower can find a elite in every pack. Elite is a silly term for people needing a ego boost. I'm sorry but I've grown countless packs that contained plants superior to clones I've bought locally, and I'm talking big popular ones... though none of the American hype machines just our canadian ones.

I couldn't care less if a group of people call something elite I wouldn't pay extra because someone says it's the bomb. Cuts are cuts work with what you got. The beauty if seeds.
 

HidingInTheHaze

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Good to great plants in almost every pack, I'll buy that. Elites in every pack not so much, it really depends on what strain you are growing. It's easy to say if you are talking about some elite clone x another strain, well then of course there is a high probability to find something equally as good or better, but if you are growing from a pack of seeds made by 2 parents that were not made from elite clones mileage may vary. We take for granted there is such an abundance of seed strains made with the latest and greatest elite clones.

The elites I grown have all had a quality that really made them head and shoulders better then most other stuff I have run. This is why so many people keep the "elites" around but how many people do you see raving about their elite cut of like mental floss, chronic or ak47 for example.
 

Dirt Life

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IMHO, an elite is purely defined by the amount of people clamoring for a single plant or small lot of seeds (there are "elite" seeds) and the scarcity/rarity of said plant/seeds.

It's like cults vs. religion; all religions are cults until member population swells, then, religion. :)

Getting pissed off at nomenclature is adorable.
 

Scrappy-doo

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A really excellent grower can find a elite in every pack.

Well they can call it an elite, but that doesn't make it one. A good grower can only make a plant shine to the best of it's genetic potential. It has nothing to do with grower skill and everything to do with the genetic combinations within the plant.

Elite is a silly term for people needing a ego boost. I'm sorry but I've grown countless packs that contained plants superior to clones I've bought locally, and I'm talking big popular ones... though none of the American hype machines just our canadian ones.

That's probably the problem right there. True elite strains are not something you can just buy at a dispensary. If you see ecsd or chemd clones at the shop, you can be sure they are not real. Elites are rare and impossible to get unless you know someone.

I couldn't care less if a group of people call something elite I wouldn't pay extra because someone says it's the bomb.

I have some customers who say the exact same thing. They get totally decent herb and are very happy with it. Others want only the best and can afford it. Those people get my top shelf. There's something for everyone. You get what you pay for.

Cuts are cuts work with what you got.

Well at least we agree on something.
 

CoCoSativas

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Well they can call it an elite, but that doesn't make it one. A good grower can only make a plant shine to the best of it's genetic potential. It has nothing to do with grower skill and everything to do with the genetic combinations within the plant.



That's probably the problem right there. True elite strains are not something you can just buy at a dispensary. If you see ecsd or chemd clones at the shop, you can be sure they are not real. Elites are rare and impossible to get unless you know someone.



I have some customers who say the exact same thing. They get totally decent herb and are very happy with it. Others want only the best and can afford it. Those people get my top shelf. There's something for everyone. You get what you pay for.



Well at least we agree on something.

No dispensary here for me.

Well I don't just settle for mediocre I pop alot of seeds to find my own elites that satisfy me. I always buy premium seeds and get what I pay for...

Just because it pleases the masses doesn't garentee I'll love it so rather than chase cuts I chase seeds.
 

Scrappy-doo

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Not to say you can't find something as good as or better with the right seeds. But I'll bet at least some of your premium seeds have a known elite cut in their lineage. C'mon, tell me I'm wrong :biggrin:
 

St. Phatty

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I think one of the most important things with seeds is to have discreet identifiers.

But sometimes ... I can't remember.

Hence, Can't Remember #1
Can't Remember #2
Can't Remember #3
... I think I was up to 8.
 

CoCoSativas

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Not to say you can't find something as good as or better with the right seeds. But I'll bet at least some of your premium seeds have a known elite cut in their lineage. C'mon, tell me I'm wrong :biggrin:

Depends. Some do and some don't most have not until JUST recently. I mean within the last month I've started some stuff with elite parentage. Ghost train haze, chocolate cheese... sour pink kush.

Then again lots don't. Kali mist, super lemon haze, and I could list all day the stuff ive grown that wasn't related to big name hype monsters.

I am not saying elites aren't the shit cause they certainly look, sound and have been described to me as being awesome and so I'm trying their genetics, but man I am not obsessed. If someone said more than 50 bucks for a killer mom I'd tell them to polish my knob no wah. No gorilla glue, ghost og or fuck all else would have me run around chasing after is so I can feel elite by having one. I'll just throw down shit loads of seeds and find what suits me.

Again elite is perspective. There's alot more cuts floating around in that category that aren't well known and that doesn't make them any less elite than any of the hype monsters just because they are less known. I mean yeah if you want to put elite in a stoner dictionary sure I'll go by your definition it upon, until then dictionary English for me...

Elite

Noun

Object or person collectively considered to be the top of its class.

Soooo really my super lemon haze is a elite. I haven't ever come across a finer example in the 50 seeds I've popped, nor anyone else has put forward. Matter of fact I've had only a few kinds of dope that I liked as much, and our local famous purple kush well I'd laugh that shit away and most anyone would if faced with the local vs my slh. Now there is alot of reefs pink on the market right now which I love but that's a rare example of a mass popular cut I really dig. There's a couple but for god sakes I gave away my timewarp cut, have turned down all sorts of clones cause at the end of the day someone else's elite is their elite not aways mine.

Anyway I like we have polarizing views. Though you likely live somewhere you ca get those hype monsters, I don't, so you care, I don't... I probably have a little better access to certain breeders, if you are in the us the dutch aren't huge sending seeds there where as I can order from any of em all day long. Serious would send me a pack right now if I ordered. It's just how the world is, I don't cry the fact I can't just go grab fancy clones where ever when ever, I don't need to I'll just pop seeds and find what I need. I make It work and don't feel any less elite...
 
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