Calif. pot dispensaries told by feds to shut down

[OLDproLg]

right?

What a 180 the Obumfuck smuck has done.
Poor cali,im NOT moving there now..
im NO longer a dem either..
FUCK this country DAMN to HELL!

 

[cobcoop]

All I gotta say is Ron Paul is your only hope from the Executive if anything resembling decriminalization is going to happen nationwide. He's the only candidate in either party advocating an end to the WoD.

I remember my posts in 2008 about how Obama was the same as Bush. Too many were drinking the Kool-aid and fell for his rhetoric.

Ron Paul certainly has his high points, but voting for him based on a single issue is a little short sighted IMO. He would also dismantle the entire government (yeah I know not a bad idea ) and privatize everything. If you think corporate control is bad now, just wait. What needs to be dismantled is the power structure that allows the MIC to control our country. I pledge allegiance, to the logo, of the united states of DOW...

 

[Stress_test]

Ron Paul certainly has his high points, but voting for him based on a single issue is a little short sighted IMO. He would also dismantle the entire government (yeah I know not a bad idea ) and privatize everything. If you think corporate control is bad now, just wait. What needs to be dismantled is the power structure that allows the MIC to control our country. I pledge allegiance, to the logo, of the united states of DOW...

Well they voted for Obama because he is black and because he bribed em with the promise of a check in the mail if he won.

In what fuckin election did bribery become legal in America?

I wonder how many voters actually got paid? I didn't cause I didn't vote for that clown. I don't even like clowns and I ain't racist.

 

[Green lung]

and I ain't racist.

You sure?.....sounds like you have a guilty conscience for some reason.

 

[guest8905]

this thread is quickly getting off topic

 

[supermanlives]

if harborside goes the rest will follow. hope they come up with that 2.5 and keep the fight going

 

[Paco]

THis has nothing to do with the current pres or his stance on MMJ, clubs were raided after he said he was going to take it easy on MMJ laws. It has to do with the fact that he cannot exert any control over the government.If you couldn't tell, none really pays attention to any of his directives. We are looking at a sector of our government that views its self as the last cowboys in the west. Literally.
This new memo has nothing to do with our president, republican or democrat( even though we as growers have historically done better under dem presidents)
It has alot to do with what happened in CO. we are watching our new regulations squeeze out the ma and pop's in place of the 1.5 million dollar grows owned by guys from out of state who also have financial interest in big pharma, thats it. they made it in on the ground floor. and they way the regs were written in CO allowed for third party research on Cannabis. HMMMMMMMMM!? wonder why? So get pissed at the president if it makes you feel better, it all boils down to our complacency in this societyand how we fit into its scape goat roll. If we really wanted legalization we'd have a few die hards like during prohibition. lots of innocent people need to be affected before the our congressional space cadets come back into our stratosphere. ( i am in no way advocating violence)
I for one will be going to my local occupy wall street protest today to lend my voice. I suggest you all do the same.

 

[trichrider]

as long as we're bashing the administration:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/07/eric-holder-obama-fast-and-furious_n_1000800.html

and to those who think these aren't related...well, get a grip!

 

[kmk420kali]

They got $$ for this shit...yet violent offenders are free to go!! I bet in Topeka they are still trying non-violent drug offenders!!

A bitter argument over money in Topeka, Kan., means that city and county authorities have neglected to prosecute or charge people suspected of domestic battery since Sept. 8.
In other words, the local justice system has spent a month effectively sending the message that misdemeanor domestic assault will go unpunished--at least for now.
The dispute started last month, when Shawnee County District Attorney Chad Taylor announced that a 10 percent budget cut to his office in 2012 meant he would no longer be prosecuting any of the city's misdemeanors, effective immediately. Topeka city council members say they can't afford the estimated $800,000 yearly cost of prosecuting those misdemeanors and jailing offenders--and that they want the county to continue carrying out misdemeanor prosecutions as it has for the past 25 years. The county continues to insist that the jurisdiction for these prosecutions should shift to city prosecutors, but the Topeka City Council says that none of the city's five attorneys has any recent experience prosecuting domestic violence cases.
Next week, the council will vote on a measure that will strip domestic battery from a list of crimes that are illegal in the city. The vote is a tactical bid to force the county to take those cases on again.
City Council member Larry Wolgast told The Lookout he's opposed to that tactic, since there's no guarantee that the county will actually prosecute domestic battery cases just because the city decriminalizes the offense. But Wolgast also says the city cannot find the money to prosecute the cases themselves. "If we could just solve this by taking them over, that would be great to do. But the people aren't there," he said. He added that the most severe cases of domestic battery would be written up as felonies, which are still prosecuted by the county.
Karen Hiller, another City Council member, tells The Lookout that the county already has the resources needed to prosecute these kind of cases, while the city--which doesn't even have its own jail--would have to build from the ground up. Taylor would need an extra $200,000 to continue prosecuting them, while the city would have to spend nearly $1 million.
"How could we possibly do this on 10 minutes notice?" she said.
A domestic abuse survivor and activist, Claudine Dombrowski, told Fox4 that the city is sending the message that it's OK to beat your wife or husband.
"They need to invest in headstones, because these women are going to end up in cemeteries," Dombrowski told the station. She said she was hit with a crowbar in a domestic violence incident classified as a misdemeanor 16 years ago.
Wolgast says he's not sure when the jurisdictional dispute will end. When asked to address potential victims of domestic abuse whose perpetrators are not being prosecuted, he said: "We're working to solve the situation. I don't know what more I can say at this point."
According to James Anderson at the Topeka Police Department, city authorities have arrested 20 people on suspicion of misdemeanor domestic battery since Sept. 8. Anderson said he doesn't know how many were charged, but Shawnee County court data suggests that all of the suspected offenders were released and not charged. One man was arrested twice over the month, both times on suspected domestic battery, and released both times. Their cases will be brought up for prosecution again once the city and county resolve their dispute, according to Hiller.
In Kansas, domestic battery is defined as "intentionally or recklessly causing bodily harm by a family or household member against a family or household member," or intentionally physically contacting a family member in a "rude, insulting or angry manner." The third time someone is convicted of domestic battery within five years, the offense becomes a felony.

 

[Stress_test]

You sure?.....sounds like you have a guilty conscience for some reason.

I do have a guilty conscience. And so should every American able to walk and carry a weapon.

I'm an American. There have been members of my family on this soil since the first ships landed, and my forefathers are turning in their graves while the American people sit by and watch that fake bastard tear the country down from inside. AND he can't even prove that he is an American.

I mean what the fuck is happening when Americans sit at home and watch the news while government officials intimidate and threaten American citizens who are acting within the laws of the states?

It disgusts me and makes me feel shame for my country and fellow Americans.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

 

[Dr. Purpur]

all You have to do is

all You have to do is

Follow the yellow brick road.

Where all the gold is, You will find who is actually behind the curtain. You will find how the twin towers fell. You will find why we went to war.
It all has to do with Love. The Love of money

 

[trichrider]

and a bit of subtrafuge...

this is classic hoebama...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=xTgobtv8scI

and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLFE5F5FEC35CCBA1E

 

[iBogart]

The solution to this madness is simple. California must legalize in 2012. Ain't no way they going to throw a million people in jail.

 

[HUGE]

The solution to this madness is simple. California must legalize in 2012. Ain't no way they going to throw a million people in jail.

It's in your hands now people. Don fuck ittt up.

 

[dddaver]

First, where is the outrage from the Ca state gov't and it's Supreme Court? How can they just idly not only just stand there, but bend over and say" "Another please sir". And if they take this sitting down , THIS is only the very beginning.

The guy who said the administration has nothing to do with this is way, way wrong. The entire justice department, the entire administration actually, serves at the pleasure of the President. And THAT is what bothers me most about all this. Not that these big money assholes would do something this, I actually expected it. It's that Obummer stood there and bald faced lied when he said they wouldn't do this. He has lost ALL credibility and could well lose the next election because of it. Not his stance or what anyone believes is right. But his standing up and bald faced, and very blatantly lying.

 

[meduser180056]

i have a feeling not much is gonna come of this really. Just another push back it seems. Every once in awhile they seem to feel the need to check things a lil.

 

[megayields]

I talk shit on the dispensaries. My shit is sold as top shelf at several dispensaries. They don't pay what they should but I get a decent price. What other people are doing doesn't concern me.

I take issue with most dispensaries. I say most, because there are compassionate dispensaries out there. Doing it right and doing it well. Those dispensaries are the exception not the rule.

Heres my problem with these "compassionate" care givers. They open up these shops. The outside most of the time is a semi club atmosphere. Signs with bud leaves everywhere. Saying look at me. Look at me! Considering these dispensaries are the face of the MMJ movement. Not very helpful.


My next issue is the money. Now I said earlier that I get a decent price. The dispensaries have to pay an accountant, security, a lawyer, etc....

Grower has same expenses.

Dispensaries drove top shelf lb prices down 31% Yet they still charge $60 an 8th. I agree they have "more" overhead with retail space.But not that much. If you need evidence read the news files regarding how much cash is seized out of some of these dispensary owners homes. If your not for profit or non profit either one. Then why all the cash at your house? Forget to deposit that $300,000? More great press for the MMJ movement.

So yeah I talk shit on the dispensaries. It's my opinion it can't be wrong.

I agree with most of your opinions and am in a similar situation except I "know" I grow top notch Fire (indoor) and my outdoor came out *very* good but will get better but this was my 1st outdoor grow in 25 years.

The ONE thing that caught my eye was your comment on the money being made by SOME not all dispensaries and with todayt Federal announcement that they have sent letter to the Attorney Generals of the following MMJ states; NV, MI, CO, OR including Cali it became clear they are targeting the low hanging fruit 1st, meaning the LARGE dispensaries. I will give you an example of one in the Bay Area and I think their REvENUE alone is why the Fed's are targeting them

Harborside in the Bay Area....Revenue (I think this was mentioned earlier in the OP opening article he linked)

2007 - something like $7 million (holy crap batman)
2008 - something like $12 million

That's large scale drug dealing, not "compassionate" care, this is JUStT my opinion and I agree with Rick Shaw "it will be very hard to put the genie back in the bottle" but the Fed's are going to give it the old college try.

 

[bigbrokush]

One thing that I found out a long time ago. I saw a dope dealer in jail file taxes and paid the taxes. When he put what his job was it said dope dealer. And yes Uncle Sam took the money. So who's to say that all they want is the money. Which is what I think it is.......

 

[rick shaw]

weed wars

Discovery Channel can use the edited footage from "Weed Wars" for their other show "I Almost Got Away With It"

 

[megayields]

All the big trimmers who have been providing HS with the best smoke on the commercial market better start watching their back. Steve, His brother, WD Dave, all have questionable pasts with accepting responsibility.

It wouldn't surprise me to find that HS has/will turn over all those documents that shows they paid 4000+ per pound for their product coming in and sick the IRS on all the Florida Boy crew and others. The IRS has found the loose thread and will unravel them in quick time. What about all the kick backs from sales they get from clubs their partners with like San Jose and SAC and near petalumia. and like it said in the report this is just the bill for 2007 and 08, when no one knew about HS - The 2009 -10 tax bill will be a multiplier of that.

anyone remember that cute asianish Bud-tender covered in all the
tattoos who use to dress up in all those outfits and looked like a pin
up Girl?

Dude you got the 411 on this....lol...you are spot on....