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Cali anti spanking bill
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I Used To Grow
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haha..man...that was some funny stuff now that I think about it..calling my mom that...wow...what a brat I was
H. Wurst said:
Well your father sucks..waste of flesh..nothing less nothing more..
A good spanking is in order! A child is basically like an animal when born..you have to train it to be human. Specially Boys....
You have to be true to yourself and fair about raising your kid...otherwise dont bother having a child..enough assholes in this world all ready..
(i am very sensitive about this subject)
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glad I had a vasectomy, no shit head kids for me.
Trichome Toker
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Now this thread is getting good.
I'll be watching closely.
I'll be watching closely.
.....My Mum would hit me with anything she had at hand........but mostly with her hand till I was 16 years old when she broke a coupla of sticks over my back and gave up as I laughed at her and told her to get a bigger stick.....
.....she quit hitting me with her hands because she would hurt herself.....her hand swole up once real big after whacking me.......then she told my big brother about it and he tried to kick my ass.......
....my Dad would usually make me stand in the corner with a house brick over my head....
....at 8 years old I went to an English boarding school........and there I was slippered and caned quite regularly......6 of the best with a size 11 plimsole soaked in a bucket of water and heated on a radiator for flooding a bathroom.......and six of the best with a birch cane for throwing sticks into a conker tree (horse chestnut) by the head-masters office were the most memorable.....
.....My son is now 18 and my Daughter 15 and I have never hit them......violence breeds violence usually....
.....she quit hitting me with her hands because she would hurt herself.....her hand swole up once real big after whacking me.......then she told my big brother about it and he tried to kick my ass.......
....my Dad would usually make me stand in the corner with a house brick over my head....
....at 8 years old I went to an English boarding school........and there I was slippered and caned quite regularly......6 of the best with a size 11 plimsole soaked in a bucket of water and heated on a radiator for flooding a bathroom.......and six of the best with a birch cane for throwing sticks into a conker tree (horse chestnut) by the head-masters office were the most memorable.....
.....My son is now 18 and my Daughter 15 and I have never hit them......violence breeds violence usually....
Well... haven't read this whole thread, but here's my 
on the spanking issue... I'm saying this as one who was spanked as a child hard enough to have to miss school on more than one occasion, and as a parent raising a child now...
When a child is very young and fairly immobile there is certianly no need for punishment of any kind, once they begin to crawl however, that changes a bit. There are dangers everywhere in a toddler's world... Electric outlets, fireplaces or radiators or space heaters, Very Unsanitary things than can be found and 'mouthed', and the list could go on... It is absolutely necessary on occasion to scare a pre-verbal but highly mobile child away from dangers... Sometimes this is fairly urgent and can only be accomplished by a swat or two, this type of spanking is completely appropriate imho...
As a child becomes old enough to reason with, this form of 'Attention Getter' can evolve into much more useful incentives to behave properly. I don't want to try to list the possible incentives, but there are many other motivators, both rewards and consequences other than physical pain.
JMHO....
on the spanking issue... I'm saying this as one who was spanked as a child hard enough to have to miss school on more than one occasion, and as a parent raising a child now...When a child is very young and fairly immobile there is certianly no need for punishment of any kind, once they begin to crawl however, that changes a bit. There are dangers everywhere in a toddler's world... Electric outlets, fireplaces or radiators or space heaters, Very Unsanitary things than can be found and 'mouthed', and the list could go on... It is absolutely necessary on occasion to scare a pre-verbal but highly mobile child away from dangers... Sometimes this is fairly urgent and can only be accomplished by a swat or two, this type of spanking is completely appropriate imho...
As a child becomes old enough to reason with, this form of 'Attention Getter' can evolve into much more useful incentives to behave properly. I don't want to try to list the possible incentives, but there are many other motivators, both rewards and consequences other than physical pain.
JMHO....
maybe spanking or not spanking isn't really the issue at all.
a friend who grew up with me and lived down the street, always said
that his parents never hit him or spanked him after his parents realized he was capable of killing them in their sleep. that is keeping it raw, uh? yikes.
on the other hand, i know a lady who spanked her kids when she thought they needed it, rather than giving them bullshit speeches filled with a lot of prejudices and nonsense and old stupid information that parents still think is 'real'. so a proper spanking never left any scars in their psyche, or so the theory claims...
personally, my parents never knew what to do with me, to either spank me or scold me or both or none, so there never was consistency, which was something i realized very early, so i never paid any attention to their 'disciplining'. it goes to show, most people who have offspring do it our of instinct, not because of the idealized romantic nonsense they create around their biological impulses.
i hope this is not too cynic for a sunday morning. i guess there are exceptions and some people do in fact have children in a loving and intelligent way, but not here on earth
hehehe...
peace!
a friend who grew up with me and lived down the street, always said
that his parents never hit him or spanked him after his parents realized he was capable of killing them in their sleep. that is keeping it raw, uh? yikes.
on the other hand, i know a lady who spanked her kids when she thought they needed it, rather than giving them bullshit speeches filled with a lot of prejudices and nonsense and old stupid information that parents still think is 'real'. so a proper spanking never left any scars in their psyche, or so the theory claims...
personally, my parents never knew what to do with me, to either spank me or scold me or both or none, so there never was consistency, which was something i realized very early, so i never paid any attention to their 'disciplining'. it goes to show, most people who have offspring do it our of instinct, not because of the idealized romantic nonsense they create around their biological impulses.
i hope this is not too cynic for a sunday morning. i guess there are exceptions and some people do in fact have children in a loving and intelligent way, but not here on earth
hehehe...peace!
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idontgivenames
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what ever. a light spank for correcting your toddler is appropriate. doctors spank babies when they're born, anyways. california has alot of far left policies. though i think there should be a mix of left and right policies to balance the equation for a functioning government. i hope you all realize this is one more step towards social control by the government. you may think it's a law that is good, or bad. what ever your opinion is. but with one new ground of control, man always tries to take their opinions and force them on you (when it comes to social control).
this may not pose as big a threat now and looks like some liberal bull shit policy, but watch, if this bill is passed, more and more you're going to see ridiculous laws like this being pushed. but that's inevitable. i'm just saying, think for yourself and don't let the state do it for you.
this may not pose as big a threat now and looks like some liberal bull shit policy, but watch, if this bill is passed, more and more you're going to see ridiculous laws like this being pushed. but that's inevitable. i'm just saying, think for yourself and don't let the state do it for you.
Laws like the Cali anti-spanking Bill just gives the state more and more excuses to take children from their parents and to have control over the whole child-rearing situation. It's not just liberal states either. Flotida is a relatively conservative, fucked-up religious state that has taken more kids from their parents than the Hitler Youth Corp.
The big problem with Florida is that their Child/Family services are so incompetant that the have lost more kids than the Sudan. I think that someone there must be selling the kids into slavery.
My daughter(white) took in a 16 yo girl(black) and raised her as a foster daughter for 2 years. Child Services made her put child-proof locks on her cabinets where chemicals were stored. Do they really think that a 16 yo cannot figure out how to get in the cabinet?
On a side note, there are many people in this country(USA) who do a shitty job of raising their children and teaching them respect for other people. I see tons of these kids at the mall and at wal-mart. I'd like to chop their little heads off and then go after the parents. I wouldn't consider it murder, just retrospective abortion and future birth control.
The big problem with Florida is that their Child/Family services are so incompetant that the have lost more kids than the Sudan. I think that someone there must be selling the kids into slavery.
My daughter(white) took in a 16 yo girl(black) and raised her as a foster daughter for 2 years. Child Services made her put child-proof locks on her cabinets where chemicals were stored. Do they really think that a 16 yo cannot figure out how to get in the cabinet?
On a side note, there are many people in this country(USA) who do a shitty job of raising their children and teaching them respect for other people. I see tons of these kids at the mall and at wal-mart. I'd like to chop their little heads off and then go after the parents. I wouldn't consider it murder, just retrospective abortion and future birth control.
naga_sadu
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So, they ban spanking in the interests of the child, huh? Actually, those "timeouts" where kids are locked in a room for punishment is WAY worse psychologically than a simple spank.
Personally, I'd prefer if they created laws in order to ensure that parents would be banned from "expelling" the kid from their care once he/ she is 18+. THat practice done by some parents is outright horrendous. And also, many parents make 14 year old boys work in grocery stores etc. for their own pocket cash
And they say they're fighting vigorously against child labour. RIDICULOUS!!!
Also, in case of teen pregnencies, parents from both the guy and the girl should be made by law to help the young couple deal with the issue, such as helping the guy get a job, and pay for the newborn's insurance, open up a savings account on the child's name etc., and not just wash their hands off it saying "they made the mistake, it's not our problem."
I'd prefer laws making parents directly responsible for their young till they settled down in life themselfs. Parents who take an "asset vs liability" approach on kids should be sent to gulags.
Personally, I'd prefer if they created laws in order to ensure that parents would be banned from "expelling" the kid from their care once he/ she is 18+. THat practice done by some parents is outright horrendous. And also, many parents make 14 year old boys work in grocery stores etc. for their own pocket cash
And they say they're fighting vigorously against child labour. RIDICULOUS!!!Also, in case of teen pregnencies, parents from both the guy and the girl should be made by law to help the young couple deal with the issue, such as helping the guy get a job, and pay for the newborn's insurance, open up a savings account on the child's name etc., and not just wash their hands off it saying "they made the mistake, it's not our problem."
I'd prefer laws making parents directly responsible for their young till they settled down in life themselfs. Parents who take an "asset vs liability" approach on kids should be sent to gulags.
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I heard about that last night on the news, and it boiled my fucking blood. Since when do anyone have any authority what-so-ever to tell you whether or not you can spank your kids? For christ's sake, I was spanked, occasionally slapped lightly across the mouth for swearing, and had my mouth "washed out" with soap a couple of times----I hold no ill emotions towards any of it. Shit, it's not like any of that detered me anyway, I've always been bullheaded.
It's well-within a parent's rights to discipline their kids how they see fit, not the way the government thinks is right. Every kid's different, not all of them respond to spankings, not all of them even misbehave enough to warrent any discipline to begin with, but it's still up to mom & dad to figure out how Junior's going to put back in line.
If every parent stopped spanking/disciplining right now, at the end of the week, we'd have an outcry against those same parents for NOT disciplining their kids & letting them run amuck, disrespecting folks, etc etc. It's a Catch 22 in this country, you can't do anything right according to the government one way or the fucking other, regardless of whether or not you follow the law to the letter.
This "but it's for the children" mentality has gotten too far out of control, it's high time these assinine lawmakers get their asses paddled.
It's well-within a parent's rights to discipline their kids how they see fit, not the way the government thinks is right. Every kid's different, not all of them respond to spankings, not all of them even misbehave enough to warrent any discipline to begin with, but it's still up to mom & dad to figure out how Junior's going to put back in line.
If every parent stopped spanking/disciplining right now, at the end of the week, we'd have an outcry against those same parents for NOT disciplining their kids & letting them run amuck, disrespecting folks, etc etc. It's a Catch 22 in this country, you can't do anything right according to the government one way or the fucking other, regardless of whether or not you follow the law to the letter.
This "but it's for the children" mentality has gotten too far out of control, it's high time these assinine lawmakers get their asses paddled.
