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Calculating Nutrient profiles for Canna, GH and PBP
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Xare
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Elemental Values for the CNS 17 line:
All @ 25 ml per gallon
CNS 17 Bloom Soil and hydro
N----P----K----Mg----S----C
152-66-316-38-87-152
CNS 17 Bloom Coco
N----P----K----Mg----S----C
152-66-189-38-87-190
CNS 17 Grow Soil and Hydro
N----P----K----Mg----S----C
229-66-253-38-84-213
CNS 17 Grow Coco
N----P----K----Mg----S----C
229-33-126-38-**-274
** not listed on bottle
CNS 17 RIPE
N----P----K----Mg----S----C
76-166-253-38-38-95
All @ 25 ml per gallon
CNS 17 Bloom Soil and hydro
N----P----K----Mg----S----C
152-66-316-38-87-152
CNS 17 Bloom Coco
N----P----K----Mg----S----C
152-66-189-38-87-190
CNS 17 Grow Soil and Hydro
N----P----K----Mg----S----C
229-66-253-38-84-213
CNS 17 Grow Coco
N----P----K----Mg----S----C
229-33-126-38-**-274
** not listed on bottle
CNS 17 RIPE
N----P----K----Mg----S----C
76-166-253-38-38-95
Xare
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None of those are close enough to the Mel Frank Elemental Value goals.
So I decided to see what it would look like if we mixed the Ripe with the Blooms...
/w hydro bloom - 10 ripe to 15 bloom
N 121
P 106
K 290
Mg 38
S 50
C 129
/w coco bloom - 10 ripe to 15 bloom
N 121
P 106
K 215
Mg 38
S 50
C 152
/w hydro bloom - 15 Ripe to 10 hydro bloom
N 107
P 127
K 278
Mg 38
S 58
C 118
/w coco bloom - 15 ripe to 10 coco bloom
N 107
P 127
K 228
Mg 38
S 58
C 133
I think I like the last one the best.
15 ml ripe to 10 ml coco bloom per gallon of water
The Mg is a bit lower then lucas formula but its more then canna and should not cause deficiencies. On the Plus side its lower in N then lucas and has more P and K.
So I decided to see what it would look like if we mixed the Ripe with the Blooms...
/w hydro bloom - 10 ripe to 15 bloom
N 121
P 106
K 290
Mg 38
S 50
C 129
/w coco bloom - 10 ripe to 15 bloom
N 121
P 106
K 215
Mg 38
S 50
C 152
/w hydro bloom - 15 Ripe to 10 hydro bloom
N 107
P 127
K 278
Mg 38
S 58
C 118
/w coco bloom - 15 ripe to 10 coco bloom
N 107
P 127
K 228
Mg 38
S 58
C 133
I think I like the last one the best.
15 ml ripe to 10 ml coco bloom per gallon of water
The Mg is a bit lower then lucas formula but its more then canna and should not cause deficiencies. On the Plus side its lower in N then lucas and has more P and K.
Mob Barley420
New member
I'm having issues with Ph's spreadsheet... Do you always need the exact compounds listed in everything? On some bottles it just gives the basic npk weights and so forth. Also, for anyone who has had success getting the same #'s my man Lucas got, do you always check the box "use weights.."? Sorry I'm slow and a nute profile fish. Thanks n keep it green!
Ashtonkusher
New member
You need more ppm with your GH in flower try using sweet from botanicare @10 ml a gallon don't introduce canna tell about 2 weeks into flower then you can use cal-mag insted of epsom
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crysmatic
That's all good...but you can't go off the label. They are guaranteed minimums, and they're rounded off to the nearest integer. This can be a 5-25% error in your ppm. yvw
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DU420
I don't actually know, but until someone who does comes along and either confirms or corrects me I'd say its the total PPM divided into the percentages of N, P, K, Mg. But I'm just spit balling......
economic slave
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good post got my stoned brain twisted not hard to do so i just had to read a time or two yhanks
bearminimum
Member
Wow what a read! Feel like a mothafuckin weed mad scientist now.
