By the Danube - Panama Haze, Queen Mother and Peyote Purple
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Hehe, unfortunately, it is not the Panama Haze 
I'll try to take some time in the following days and write my first impressions of the high of the 3 harvested plants. I also have to write a long-due smoke report on last year's Jarilla de Sinaloa. Right now I'm smoking a mix of Jarilla and Queen Mother, it's much better (like proper sativa) than the uncured Queen Mother.
I'll try to take some time in the following days and write my first impressions of the high of the 3 harvested plants. I also have to write a long-due smoke report on last year's Jarilla de Sinaloa. Right now I'm smoking a mix of Jarilla and Queen Mother, it's much better (like proper sativa) than the uncured Queen Mother.
, waiting for smoke reports Queen Mother is on my list .
Thanks, guys! Just a few quick pics of the Panama Haze. We had the first real rain after the summer, so now the soil is finally moist and the Panama Haze will have enough juice for flowering. I found it bent after the rain but fixed it after taking the photos.
I'm delighted to see purple tips of the flowers without any damaged pistils, so my plant must be a daughter of a Purple Haze mother, while my friends' 2 plants seem to be from Green Hazes because they don't have any purple hues yet, in overally the same temperatures.
I'm delighted to see purple tips of the flowers without any damaged pistils, so my plant must be a daughter of a Purple Haze mother, while my friends' 2 plants seem to be from Green Hazes because they don't have any purple hues yet, in overally the same temperatures.
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The QM and the PH both look amazing and in such different ways. That's a pretty ideal pheno of Pan Haze. Nice going!
The Panama Haze is going very nicely, though slowly. The weather has been and will be, according to the forecasts, great, so it will have a good first half of flowering.
I found one seeded pre-flower, rubbed the resin from its seed cover, and the smell was unlike Panama, and unlike Haze... it was like some evil powerful dutch hybrid. Quite intriguing!
Some photos:
Flowering on the most bottom nodes of the branches is not behind the top flowers, which I found great about Panama - uniform flowering from top to bottom and very little to throw away in the end.
I found one seeded pre-flower, rubbed the resin from its seed cover, and the smell was unlike Panama, and unlike Haze... it was like some evil powerful dutch hybrid. Quite intriguing!
Some photos:
Flowering on the most bottom nodes of the branches is not behind the top flowers, which I found great about Panama - uniform flowering from top to bottom and very little to throw away in the end.
Queen Mother is very good! I've tried all 3 phenos and they are all flavorful and with that thickness of the smoke which is hard to believe is untouched by indica genes. The frost and stickiness are also hard to believe. On the other hand, the high is very sativa in that it is not tiring and I couldn't detect any tolerance buildup after 2 days of smoking it all day.
The effect is not as clear as a true tropical sativa, especially of my plant, which has the strongest effect of the 3, but still is quite enjoyable, especially after the initial "hitting" dissipates. It is dense and dreamy, not unlike Panama, but in the same time is motivating and creative, with some African sharpness in the effect. I feel invigorated and motivated to do stuff, but in the same time I can't do any real work, requiring focus, as I get constantly distracted. So it's not the most functional weed, but it's great for recreation, its dreamy trip is strong and enjoyable, the train of thoughts never stops.
So far, it is not "mystical" as on the advertisement, but very good nevertheless.
I like the effect more than any of the other fast Spanish sativas I've tried - 2 Bangi Hazes, 2 Nepal Jams, 1 Guatemala and 1 Tikal.
The effect is not as clear as a true tropical sativa, especially of my plant, which has the strongest effect of the 3, but still is quite enjoyable, especially after the initial "hitting" dissipates. It is dense and dreamy, not unlike Panama, but in the same time is motivating and creative, with some African sharpness in the effect. I feel invigorated and motivated to do stuff, but in the same time I can't do any real work, requiring focus, as I get constantly distracted. So it's not the most functional weed, but it's great for recreation, its dreamy trip is strong and enjoyable, the train of thoughts never stops.
So far, it is not "mystical" as on the advertisement, but very good nevertheless.
I like the effect more than any of the other fast Spanish sativas I've tried - 2 Bangi Hazes, 2 Nepal Jams, 1 Guatemala and 1 Tikal.
Peyote Purple is nice but, honestly, I expected more. I was hoping to get something like a Stardawg (Chemdawg descendant) clone I grew 2 years ago, which was very impressive both as flavor, and as effect (for an indica). It was (and is, since I still have some buds left) so different than all the other indicas I've smoked in the last 10 or so years - mostly dutch afghan/skunk hybrids. It also made me change my mind about the american "kush" craze, and that indeed some of these clones are superb. The dutch seed companies now also sell various "kush" seeds, but from what I've tried (grown by friends) these are nowhere near what well-bred descendants of the american clones should be.
Peyote Purple is a very nice plant, unique with its looks, but still just a good afghan/skunk hybrid with a quality indica soft effect. My PP#1 is very relaxing and calming (Afghan pheno?) and PP#2 has more "head" but has strong tolerance buildup (Skunk pheno?)
There's no way I can write a long post on ICmag after smoking a little more of PP#1, it sucks any vigor and desire, one hour of peaceful calmness on the sofa, and then falling to sleep.
PP#2 has a more interesting, active mental effect, which feels clean enough and somehow confident. Coupled with pleasant body. Good effect, but the main problem is that it has the strong tolerance buildup that I've seen mostly in Skunks. After I smoke once from it, smoking something in the following hours is kind of weak and unsatisfying and I need to smoke at least 2 times more for the expected effect. After a normal smoking session in the evening (2 times x 0.15gr), after a good long sleep, my morning smoke of one hit of Zamaldelica + Jarilla is at least twice as weak. Smoking this thing all day for a few days is granted to make you immune to cannabis's mental effects for some time. I like to get high and I don't like this.
Both phenos (even the Skunky) are not in the league of Stardawg when it comes to flavor. Both as strength of smell in the bag, and as smell of the smoke. The remaining aftertaste is thick and sweet, good, but the sativa Queen Mother has a more flavorful smoke than PP, which is more of a compliment for QM, but still doesn't sound good for the indica in the comparison.
I just took a puff from PP#1. Soft sweet hashy flavor with slight incense touches. We'll see how it cures, these slight incense touches give some hope
Peyote Purple is a very nice plant, unique with its looks, but still just a good afghan/skunk hybrid with a quality indica soft effect. My PP#1 is very relaxing and calming (Afghan pheno?) and PP#2 has more "head" but has strong tolerance buildup (Skunk pheno?)
There's no way I can write a long post on ICmag after smoking a little more of PP#1, it sucks any vigor and desire, one hour of peaceful calmness on the sofa, and then falling to sleep.
PP#2 has a more interesting, active mental effect, which feels clean enough and somehow confident. Coupled with pleasant body. Good effect, but the main problem is that it has the strong tolerance buildup that I've seen mostly in Skunks. After I smoke once from it, smoking something in the following hours is kind of weak and unsatisfying and I need to smoke at least 2 times more for the expected effect. After a normal smoking session in the evening (2 times x 0.15gr), after a good long sleep, my morning smoke of one hit of Zamaldelica + Jarilla is at least twice as weak. Smoking this thing all day for a few days is granted to make you immune to cannabis's mental effects for some time. I like to get high and I don't like this.
Both phenos (even the Skunky) are not in the league of Stardawg when it comes to flavor. Both as strength of smell in the bag, and as smell of the smoke. The remaining aftertaste is thick and sweet, good, but the sativa Queen Mother has a more flavorful smoke than PP, which is more of a compliment for QM, but still doesn't sound good for the indica in the comparison.
I just took a puff from PP#1. Soft sweet hashy flavor with slight incense touches. We'll see how it cures, these slight incense touches give some hope
Hi there, people!
About a week ago we had a short cold wave and the morning temperatures on my spot have went down to -2*C. The Panama Haze seems to have absolutely no problems with this cold, which is very nice. Highland genes in effect here.
The weather is good now, cold but sunny, no morning fogs. The buds are swelling and the branches are bending. A few days ago a storm passed and again broke all the biggest branches and the main stem right above where the existing support ends. I hanged the broken branches to dry as their buds, as immature as they are, already have strong effect, flavor and frost.
Effect is very powerful and dreamy, and clean and fresh at the same time. Call it lucid dreaming or hypnotic, as overwhelming as it is, it is very pleasant. The smell of the fresh buds is very similar to the smell of the Purple Haze x Thai I grew 3 years ago, somewhat like flavorful red wine grapes. So the Haze must be dominant in the smells. The high is more on the Panama side though. Or is it a Colombian side? Deep, dense, dreamy. It is somehow more mental, wild and intense than Panama alone. And more interesting and motivating, at least to me.
I'm very pleased by the first tastings. Good weed!
Next to some crumbled bits of well-cured Haze x Thai:
About a week ago we had a short cold wave and the morning temperatures on my spot have went down to -2*C. The Panama Haze seems to have absolutely no problems with this cold, which is very nice. Highland genes in effect here.
The weather is good now, cold but sunny, no morning fogs. The buds are swelling and the branches are bending. A few days ago a storm passed and again broke all the biggest branches and the main stem right above where the existing support ends. I hanged the broken branches to dry as their buds, as immature as they are, already have strong effect, flavor and frost.
Effect is very powerful and dreamy, and clean and fresh at the same time. Call it lucid dreaming or hypnotic, as overwhelming as it is, it is very pleasant. The smell of the fresh buds is very similar to the smell of the Purple Haze x Thai I grew 3 years ago, somewhat like flavorful red wine grapes. So the Haze must be dominant in the smells. The high is more on the Panama side though. Or is it a Colombian side? Deep, dense, dreamy. It is somehow more mental, wild and intense than Panama alone. And more interesting and motivating, at least to me.
I'm very pleased by the first tastings. Good weed!
Next to some crumbled bits of well-cured Haze x Thai:
Lovely plants you got there Yoss!
Just like you i love to grow sativa's outdoor even if it's a hard task given our lattitudes. The finished product is sometimes surprisingly strong for immature plants.
Kudos to you!
Just like you i love to grow sativa's outdoor even if it's a hard task given our lattitudes. The finished product is sometimes surprisingly strong for immature plants.
Kudos to you!
Thanks, Pepé!
This autumn was great, only a few cloudy rainy days, and all strains became very resinous and potent... my two friends even complain that the Queen Mothers they grew are more potent than they want, heh, and that they have to mix with something less potent (like leaves).
I'm still smoking semi-dried samples of the Panama Haze but on a few occasions it surprised me with the strength of its effect. One puff from the pipe seems weak, and two puffs can be devastating. And when I say devastating, I mean I don't remember anything other than hash oil that can make me so high/stoned/something third. Numb parts of body, head feels like with a tight helmet, hands don't feel and look like own hands, extremely dreamy. On one of these occasions, I was driving my car fine, but most of the time wasn't really in the car, so to say, and I was constantly trying to remember where I was going. At moments, I had some sort of dissociation where as if someone else's hands were turning the wheel and driving the car. I felt helpless and losing control over my body (and reality) in a similar way I've felt on psychedelics.
I'm curious to see if this extremely heavy effect will soften with drying and curing. I've had Panama plants that were very heavy and stony when just dried, and the effect cleared with curing.
Some photos:
This autumn was great, only a few cloudy rainy days, and all strains became very resinous and potent... my two friends even complain that the Queen Mothers they grew are more potent than they want, heh, and that they have to mix with something less potent (like leaves).
I'm still smoking semi-dried samples of the Panama Haze but on a few occasions it surprised me with the strength of its effect. One puff from the pipe seems weak, and two puffs can be devastating. And when I say devastating, I mean I don't remember anything other than hash oil that can make me so high/stoned/something third. Numb parts of body, head feels like with a tight helmet, hands don't feel and look like own hands, extremely dreamy. On one of these occasions, I was driving my car fine, but most of the time wasn't really in the car, so to say, and I was constantly trying to remember where I was going. At moments, I had some sort of dissociation where as if someone else's hands were turning the wheel and driving the car. I felt helpless and losing control over my body (and reality) in a similar way I've felt on psychedelics.
I'm curious to see if this extremely heavy effect will soften with drying and curing. I've had Panama plants that were very heavy and stony when just dried, and the effect cleared with curing.
Some photos:
Thanks, Pepé!
This autumn was great, only a few cloudy rainy days, and all strains became very resinous and potent... my two friends even complain that the Queen Mothers they grew are more potent than they want, heh, and that they have to mix with something less potent (like leaves).
I'm still smoking semi-dried samples of the Panama Haze but on a few occasions it surprised me with the strength of its effect. One puff from the pipe seems weak, and two puffs can be devastating. And when I say devastating, I mean I don't remember anything other than hash oil that can make me so high/stoned/something third. Numb parts of body, head feels like with a tight helmet, hands don't feel and look like own hands, extremely dreamy. On one of these occasions, I was driving my car fine, but most of the time wasn't really in the car, so to say, and I was constantly trying to remember where I was going. At moments, I had some sort of dissociation where as if someone else's hands were turning the wheel and driving the car. I felt helpless and losing control over my body (and reality) in a similar way I've felt on psychedelics.
I'm curious to see if this extremely heavy effect will soften with drying and curing. I've had Panama plants that were very heavy and stony when just dried, and the effect cleared with curing.
Some photos:
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Hi , yoss!
true the most benevolent autumn we southerners have had in years...November and no bud rot is very unusual yet so bloody welcome...
I hear you loud and clear on that driving bit...another strange feeling I get is when I turn into bends I've been driving for decades and it takes ages before I realise which bend is which...can be frightening at times...
I guess that's the epitomy of a real strong smoke.lovely bud shots!
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