BUSTED, no ryme or reason

[THCforus]

Taking out a mortgage on your house to keep you out of prison may be worth the risk my friend, especially when a # of dank in NY is fetching a pretty penny these days. Do what you have to do but find a better lawyer. Don't give up and remember, working 70 hrs a week for two years is still better than going to prison for 5, I mean at least if you are out there working you can come home to your wife right?

That would have been the first thing i did if i had that option. I was renting so i don't have a house to put up.
Believe me, if i had a way to come up w/ another hefty down payment
I would have fired my lawyer the first time he brought up signing a plea. I also have shit credit that doesn't help much.

 

[THCforus]

i would destroy that dudes life. first ruin him financialy, then torture him with a pair of pliars and a blowtorch.

that's fucked up man.

SNITCHES GET STITCHES

When i first got busted, you wouldn't believe how many thoughts like this i had, and then off and on for a while from there.
The reality of it all though, is that all that would do is make matters worse for myself and bring me down to his level. This guy's brought me and mine enough grief already.
I'm also realizing that i don't want to bring all that hate with me to jail. That shit will just eat me alive in there.
Dont get me wrong though, I'll never forgive the bastard and i hope he suffers w/ nightmarish bad karma.

 

[overmyhead]

Still praying for you bro.

 

[rlmedicals]

Hope all turns out well for ya man, our legal system is a big pile of shit. And so is throwing people in jail for growing a plant that is quite hard to kill someone with. Karma will kill that mofo in the end and you will prosper. Keep your chin up. Don't let the legal system intimidate you stand strong.

 

[THCforus]

Still praying for you bro.

I'm grateful for your continued support and prayers, Thank you.

 

[THCforus]

Hey all,
This post is for all of you, who have or continue to, offer support, your thoughts and prayers for me and mine, well wishes and concern.
I wouldn't necessarily consider myself a religious man, but i am a very spiritual one. I believe in the power of karma and the positive reinforcement of others. It seems that my case has taken a turn for the better. My lawyer likes to take the path of least resistance.
Against his advisement , i insisted on something that could have made matters worse for myself. Because of my principals, my gut instinct, and because i don't want to give up. This ended up being a good decision and things seem a lot more hopeful.
I just want to say that this forum, and the good people who participate in it, have helped me more than you know, cope with the stress and hopelessness that goes along with being caught up in the senseless war on growers.
By no means is my ordeal over, but for the first time it looks like there might be light at the end of the tunnel.
Thanks for checking in and I'll keep you guys informed.

 

[j6p]

Against his advisement , i insisted on something that could have made matters worse for myself. Because of my principals, my gut instinct, and because i don't want to give up. This ended up being a good decision and things seem a lot more hopeful ...
By no means is my ordeal over, but for the first time it looks like there might be light at the end of the tunnel.
Thanks for checking in and I'll keep you guys informed.

Thanks for the update, THC. We are hoping and praying that this terrible ordeal is resolved quickly for you, and works out for the best. I'm sure that your long and frustrating struggle with the quasi-legal system has been the worst. Hopefully it will be over soon. Best wishes, brother.

 

[THCforus]

Thanks for the update, THC. We are hoping and praying that this terrible ordeal is resolved quickly for you, and works out for the best. I'm sure that your long and frustrating struggle with the quasi-legal system has been the worst. Hopefully it will be over soon. Best wishes, brother.

Thanks pal,
I'm feeling alot less stressed now, and things are lookin' good.

 

[rhyder]

we are all rootin for ya man!

 

[THCforus]

we are all rootin for ya man!

rhyder,
Thanks bud.
The thing that kills me the most is all the ups and downs with this shit. One day, things are lookin' up, next thing ya know, you find out some kinda twist or provision or something that makes things look suckey again. I wish things could be straight to the point.
I'm sure that anyone that's gone through this shit knows what I'm talking about. The system can drive you out your mind if you let it.

 

[overmyhead]

Is your lawyer just trying to work a plea or have they at least given thought to the idea that your rights have been violated somewhere along the way - evidence missing etc? Didn't they screw up the plant count? Cant he ask to see the evidence? I mean, don't they have to have something pretty concrete like "ive been in his grow" to actually search? I know that there were details you didnt want to release but if they didn't observe you breaking any laws then do they still have a case?

 

[Makk]

Just read this whole thread THC. Damn!!! I'm praying for ya too! I just have this urge to go after that snitch!!! I understand their trying to pin more plants then you actually had. The only thing I could think of was if you had taken any pictures of your plants to help prove the actual number. Wish I could do something for you. All the luck in the world.

 

[THCforus]

Thanks for the posts guys.
The biggest problem i have is that my case went federal. The thing that sucks is that it never should have gone beyond state.
I see case after case with people having 200-225+ plants, and still staying at state level. To this day, I still can't believe the feds were interested in my case. The truth is I had less than 100.
I'd love to be able to talk details with you guys so you'd better understand whats going on, but if prying eyes are watching, even if it didn't effect my case, at the very least I'd have to change my user name and that would suck.
Believe me, its frustrating as hell to not be able to let people know where I'm at w/ all this crap but i just can't take that chance.
Maybe I'm being paranoid, i don't know. I see people around here giving all kinds of details about their cases but it seems risky to me.

 

[Bean Cracker]

Good luck with your case! The uncertainty of the roller coaster ride is the most taxing. Hang in there and stay positive.

 

[loudthoughts]

stay strong brother! we are with ya. keep your eyes on the prize!

 

[overmyhead]

Understood, hell I feel crazy posting anything on here but I always think, what would anyone want with my sorry ass - especially if they want to get at someone else, that's the reason I did this, cause I don't know anyone else now. But then I read stories like yours and it brings me back to reality. It just seems like somewhere in the process someone had to have screwed up and your lawyer needs to find it. Maybe there are leo out there that see the insanity in what they're charged with doing and leave a trail of crumbs for good attnys to get good people off (we can hope anyway.)

 

[THCforus]

Bean Cracker and Loudthoughts,
Thanks for the support.

Overmyhead,
If it were up to my lawyer, he would have had me plea out with nothing to gain but the promise of safety valve recommendation.
He never questioned, or wanted to question anything about the police report, how they got the warrant, none of it.
The dude is weak, and if things turn out alright it wont be because of his help. Lets put it this way, I've told him the whole time of things that weren't right. Instead of taking my word for it (believing me) and at least looking into it, he says to my face... You know how many of my clients claim this and that? Like i have something to gain by talking shit to my lawyer, like thats gonna get me somewhere.
How hard is a lawyer going to fight for you if he doesn't believe a thing you say? This is the legal council I've put my fate in.
I guess thats the price you pay when your poor, and going through tough financial times, without family willing to help. "financially".
If i had the money, i would have canned this weakling along time ago for a real lawyer who would have questioned everything about everything, and gave me the benefit of the doubt.
At this point I have to just ride it out to the end hoping for a miracle.

 

[overmyhead]

Damn bro, it fing hurts to see/hear that but i guess a lot of us would be in the same boat. if you think your rights were violated id contact some non profits and publications. For instance, know it's a stretch but isntthat what the aclu is for? Also, I would send something to the folks at reason dot org. They are a big libertarian think tank / mag that love talking about our rights and the "war." What can it hurt?

 

[THCforus]

Damn bro, it fing hurts to see/hear that but i guess a lot of us would be in the same boat. if you think your rights were violated id contact some non profits and publications. For instance, know it's a stretch but isntthat what the aclu is for? Also, I would send something to the folks at reason dot org. They are a big libertarian think tank / mag that love talking about our rights and the "war." What can it hurt?

Unfortunatly, I think that doing something like this would only create attention to myself, and give the system more of a reason to make an "example" of me. If I wanna come out of this alright I have to keep a low profile and remain as anonymous as possible, especially while my case is pending.
I'm the type of person, who would love to stir shit up and stand for what I believe in, but doing this is easier said than done when your up to your ears in the stink of the system.
I know your just trying to help though, brother and appreciate your posts.
THC

 

[Buddle]

Hoping the best for you and your family THC..peace BL