Bush Weed Seeds

[Donald Mallard]

Bushy can say what ever he likes but i know he never got my Thai x to MM or did he get any of Kangas or Nevil's selected clones.

Bushy did smoke my Thai pure Nevil shared a joint with him and his wife Nevil called me told me this soon after they left.

No hermies in my Thai but there was in GN Thai.

Nevil made GN Thai x MM / Reeferman (Green Hornet) Thai x MM / My Thai x MM / My Thai x Reeferman Thia x MM and he also used Profs Thai x MM so there were a few Thai lines x to MM.

I know what Nevil told me i was talking to him daily yes he sold bushy some seed but i know for a fact he would not of got My Thai x MM or Oaxaca x MM or set other lines or combinations.

OutBack Haze yes GNThai to MM yes.

this is what he said on the subject ,
i guess what 2 men did when u were not present is a bit hard for you to comprehend or comment on hempy ...


Hi Hempy, whether by design, or due to failing intellectual faculties, your information is wrong.

When Nevil moved to NSW in 2011 he was completely broke and living off the dole. I had a good crop and helped him out with thousands of dollars, he promised to repay me in seeds. In the fullness of time this included your pure Thai78 which you gave him in early 2012, a year before Kanga was jailed.

I first started growing the MMxThai78, NH21, NH21xMM and Gypsy Thai stick cut from Kanga in September 2012. The following 2013/14 season I crossed a male Nh21MM to the Gypsy Thai cut and made a couple of hundred of the seeds you are referring to. I only ever gave some seeds of that line to Thaibliss. He grew one that flowered for half a year, not something you would encounter in the MMThai78.

I also grew some Thai78 x NH5 that season, but it threw hermis, something that Nevil also noticed from his Thai78 female.

The MMThai78 and Gypsy Thai x NHMM are structurally very different, if you want I can send you some of each and you can verify it for yourself.

Nevils best plant was always the Big Mullum, he only ever had a male Oaxacan cut, and the haze hybrids weren't quite up to the Mullum's standard, which can be verified by bushpig (who also received his entire library) as well as Kanga and MrB. Nevil smoked joints that were 25% ganja and 75% cigarette, which tells you what sort of ganja man he was.

I generally liked Nevil, he was intelligent and straight to the point. His stories from his time in the Cannabis Castle and Fremantle jail were uproarious. He told me that if I invested in Auscann I would make a shit load of money and he was right. I used to visit him at Bonalbo every six moths and exchange seeds and ganja. I wasn't a sycophant like most others so he spared me the bullshit.

He liked you, he referred to you as his silver tongued Greek friend. But to me you've always been a bit of a punching bag, seeming to have your head in the position where it is easiest to punch. I never liked the way the anti-Shanti crew used to pick on you, but you were such an easy target with your gibberish and incomprehension of basic facts.

Nevil never rated Shanti, but he gave him his seeds, because Shanti lent him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I only eased back from my friendship with Nevil after I asked him if he would be giving Kanga back his seedlines after he was jailed. He said no, and that was it. Nevil resented Kanga, because Kanga didn't offer Nevil a position growing big crops with him, because Kanga didn't think Nevil had the lungs for the grunt work involved.

After that Nevil took all their lines and started selling them without giving Kanga his agreed 50%. Make no mistake, Nevil was an A grade asshole.

I've grown a cut from Sammy labelled C5, which was a big yielded with a nice euphoric high that reminded me of the NH21. But I'm more into the big old SE Asians

Anyway these are the facts. Peace to Wally, Elmer, Beanz, Mustafunk, Raho, Thaibliss, RC Colas and everyone else. Bushy.

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[@hempy]

this is what he said on the subject ,
i guess what 2 men did when u were not present is a bit hard for you to comprehend or comment on hempy ...


Hi Hempy, whether by design, or due to failing intellectual faculties, your information is wrong.

When Nevil moved to NSW in 2011 he was completely broke and living off the dole. I had a good crop and helped him out with thousands of dollars, he promised to repay me in seeds. In the fullness of time this included your pure Thai78 which you gave him in early 2012, a year before Kanga was jailed.

I first started growing the MMxThai78, NH21, NH21xMM and Gypsy Thai stick cut from Kanga in September 2012. The following 2013/14 season I crossed a male Nh21MM to the Gypsy Thai cut and made a couple of hundred of the seeds you are referring to. I only ever gave some seeds of that line to Thaibliss. He grew one that flowered for half a year, not something you would encounter in the MMThai78.

I also grew some Thai78 x NH5 that season, but it threw hermis, something that Nevil also noticed from his Thai78 female.

The MMThai78 and Gypsy Thai x NHMM are structurally very different, if you want I can send you some of each and you can verify it for yourself.

Nevils best plant was always the Big Mullum, he only ever had a male Oaxacan cut, and the haze hybrids weren't quite up to the Mullum's standard, which can be verified by bushpig (who also received his entire library) as well as Kanga and MrB. Nevil smoked joints that were 25% ganja and 75% cigarette, which tells you what sort of ganja man he was.

I generally liked Nevil, he was intelligent and straight to the point. His stories from his time in the Cannabis Castle and Fremantle jail were uproarious. He told me that if I invested in Auscann I would make a shit load of money and he was right. I used to visit him at Bonalbo every six moths and exchange seeds and ganja. I wasn't a sycophant like most others so he spared me the bullshit.

He liked you, he referred to you as his silver tongued Greek friend. But to me you've always been a bit of a punching bag, seeming to have your head in the position where it is easiest to punch. I never liked the way the anti-Shanti crew used to pick on you, but you were such an easy target with your gibberish and incomprehension of basic facts.

Nevil never rated Shanti, but he gave him his seeds, because Shanti lent him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I only eased back from my friendship with Nevil after I asked him if he would be giving Kanga back his seedlines after he was jailed. He said no, and that was it. Nevil resented Kanga, because Kanga didn't offer Nevil a position growing big crops with him, because Kanga didn't think Nevil had the lungs for the grunt work involved.

After that Nevil took all their lines and started selling them without giving Kanga his agreed 50%. Make no mistake, Nevil was an A grade asshole.

I've grown a cut from Sammy labelled C5, which was a big yielded with a nice euphoric high that reminded me of the NH21. But I'm more into the big old SE Asians

Anyway these are the facts. Peace to Wally, Elmer, Beanz, Mustafunk, Raho, Thaibliss, RC Colas and everyone else. Bushy.

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Donald Nevil did not trust or like bushyweed and i spoke to Nevil daily Bushweeds story has more holes in it than facts.

I don't like bringing up or discussing others peoples businesses Nevil and Kangas split is there's but it had nothing to do with what bushy claimed in this post.

Nevil's best lines for the record was MM / Oaxaca / My Thia / His NH selections and a few more lines.

Nevil did have pure Oaxaca he gave it to some one to pass to Kangas friend and partner for when Kanga got out.

Bushweed could not of grown out MMxThai78 in 2012 as the seed i had given Kanga to give to Nevil had not even been germinated so how could the cross be grown out if it was not even made yet Donald ?.

Nevil Germinated my Thai and started to grow them around the time Kangas dramas started.

Nevil shared a joint of my Thai with Bushy and his wife from the first harvest of my Thai Nevil called me told me what he thought of the smoke then told me how bushy tried to get the Thai from him he said no because Nevil got the seed with conditions.

Nevil told me what bushy was going to get in seed and it was not my Thai x to MM.

So he never got it or did you or did others and bushys claim of (I first started growing the MMxThai78, NH21, NH21xMM and Gypsy Thai stick cut from Kanga in September 2012.) Is proof he never did.

I have done 2 complete grow logs of my Thai one was in Icmag many years ago other was MrNice from seed to harvest my plants flowered and were harvested hermie free.

Nevil honed his agreement with me did bushy do the same with Kanga ?.

WallyNoLands has also posted on this topic.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Its not the gypsy thai...but its not hempys thai....the thai bushy has as pure 78thai and in the mm hybrid is different to hempys....reef knows this too...we even know the original finder and holder of the line and it certainly wernt hempy....nevil kept hempys thai labbeled as T.H.I.A 78.
Bushy also thinks nevil only had 1 oaxacan male to work with...believe me he had a few oaxacans too....and by the way most of the seeds given out are test seeds were some of the matings were beeng tested...most of the finished final stuff very very little got put out, most is still unreleased

 

[@hempy]

The time period bushys talking of would be around the time they were playing with Prof 77 Thai that Nevil told me was a mix of Thai sativas he had collected over the years some good some not so.

 

[romanoweed]

and greenhornet, what has he to do with it @hempy?

you say, a line of him might been the thai78 that reefer had? greenhornet had a thai82. So, then its another greenhornet thai , wich reefer had?

 

[@hempy]

and greenhornet, what has he to do with it @hempy?

you say, a line of him might been the thai78 that reefer has? greenhornet had a thai82. So, then its another greenhornet thai , wich reefer had?

What are you on about romanoweed ?.

Greenhornet Thai is also called Swiss Thai and What Nevil called Reeferman Thai cant be more clear than that can it.

No all i am saying is bushy or others dont have my Thai x to kangas MM.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Donald Nevil did not trust or like bushyweed and i spoke to Nevil daily Bushweeds story has more holes in it than facts.

I don't like bringing up or discussing others peoples businesses Nevil and Kangas split is there's but it had nothing to do with what bushy claimed in this post.

Nevil's best lines for the record was MM / Oaxaca / My Thia / His NH selections and a few more lines.

Nevil did have pure Oaxaca he gave it to some one to pass to Kangas friend and partner for when Kanga got out.

Bushweed could not of grown out MMxThai78 in 2012 as the seed i had given Kanga to give to Nevil had not even been germinated so how could the cross be grown out if it was not even made yet Donald ?.

Nevil Germinated my Thai and started to grow them around the time Kangas dramas started.

Nevil shared a joint of my Thai with Bushy and his wife from the first harvest of my Thai Nevil called me told me what he thought of the smoke then told me how bushy tried to get the Thai from him he said no because Nevil got the seed with conditions.

Nevil told me what bushy was going to get in seed and it was not my Thai x to MM.

So he never got it or did you or did others and bushys claim of (I first started growing the MMxThai78, NH21, NH21xMM and Gypsy Thai stick cut from Kanga in September 2012.) Is proof he never did.

I have done 2 complete grow logs of my Thai one was in Icmag many years ago other was MrNice from seed to harvest my plants flowered and were harvested hermie free.

Nevil honed his agreement with me did bushy do the same with Kanga ?.

WallyNoLands has also posted on this topic.

well its documented widely that nevil was not always truthful about seed lines and what his intents were,
he didnt always keep his promises ,
ive read complaints from more than 1 of his previous partners ,
well except for you of course hempy ,, lol ,,

it also sounds like he said one thing to one group ,
and a different thing to another ,
so its doubtful we will get to the bottom of it ,
still its nice to see both sides rather than just yours ,
as its plain u wear rose coloured glasses where anything to do with nevil and his dealings is concerned ...

thats why i added bushys post again ,
so folks can see there is always 2 sides to a story ,
and maybe between the both the real truth lies ....

 

[romanoweed]

sorry, you probably didnt say reefers thai78 is greenhornet ones.

Actually i just want to know anything about Greenhornet, who had lines of him and such, SINCE his Vietnamese wsa the strongest strain imaginable. A deeeeeeeeeeeep Experience.

 

[Donald Mallard]

and greenhornet, what has he to do with it @hempy?

you say, a line of him might been the thai78 that reefer had? greenhornet had a thai82. So, then its another greenhornet thai , wich reefer had?

that sounds like it could be correct roman,
in my collection i had mm x thai78 , and mm x thai 82,
actually i still have the core flute they came in ,, only the thai 82 remains ,
i grew the other one , and it was a bit disappointing ,, what ever it was ,\
i think it was an f2 of the original seed lot ,
though one plant had some nice potency about it ....

 

[romanoweed]

yes, i have seen someone talking about reefermans thai78, and he mentioned it beeing a swiss Line. So, without reading this Thread or such my thoughts swayed imediatly to greenhornets thai82.

Thats why i thought Reefer could have had a Thai78 wich was actually a GreenhornetThai82.

Hempy brought the same anektote up: Reefer Greenhornet swiss Thai.
But its still just a Theory. Also, why would someone change a 82 to a 78. Probably cause he confused Name?

But .. for me its all about Vietnam tourist - Greenhornet

How could this Line not be reproduced. And noone has it.. Or? If any info around Greenhornet, it may help to still find the last pieces of the Vietnamese.

 

[@hempy]

well its documented widely that nevil was not always truthful about seed lines and what his intents were,
he didnt always keep his promises ,
ive read complaints from more than 1 of his previous partners ,
well except for you of course hempy ,, lol ,,

it also sounds like he said one thing to one group ,
and a different thing to another ,
so its doubtful we will get to the bottom of it ,
still its nice to see both sides rather than just yours ,
as its plain u wear rose coloured glasses where anything to do with nevil and his dealings is concerned ...

thats why i added bushys post again ,
so folks can see there is always 2 sides to a story ,
and maybe between the both the real truth lies ....

Donald i know more about my Thai than any one posting trust me when i say you dont have it even in a cross or do others.

Nevil was always honest with me and kept his ward how do you know what Nevil did from what Nevil told me you only spoke to him a few times.

The sad part in all of this is the shady shit that went on behind the seen and as a result of that i am not willing to share now.

You wont bring up the shady shit pulled on Nevil will you Donald funny that.

Who was the guy Trading Kangas genetics to other seed banks wasn't Nevil was it.

Who was the guy selling both Nevil and Kangas work.

But the guy that worked and preserved Kangas lines that would all be lost that's right that would be Nevil he continues to be the bad guy but the others were the white hats.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

well its documented widely that nevil was not always truthful about seed lines and what his intents were,
he didnt always keep his promises ,
ive read complaints from more than 1 of his previous partners ,
well except for you of course hempy ,, lol ,,

it also sounds like he said one thing to one group ,
and a different thing to another ,
so its doubtful we will get to the bottom of it ,
still its nice to see both sides rather than just yours ,
as its plain u wear rose coloured glasses where anything to do with nevil and his dealings is concerned ...

thats why i added bushys post again ,
so folks can see there is always 2 sides to a story ,
and maybe between the both the real truth lies ....

Donald bushy put pictures up of what he had as pure (thai78)...its definitely not the same as hempys...if bushy is adamant its hempys thai maybe he could show the pictures of it....hempys thai is very stable for type and gives a very particular bud structure and leaf shape....its easyily detectable in the couple of outcrosses ive seen.

 

[@hempy]

Donald bushy put pictures up of what he had as pure (thai78)...its definitely not the same as hempys...if bushy is adamant its hempys thai maybe he could show the pictures of it....hempys thai is very stable for type and gives a very particular bud structure and leaf shape....its easyily detectable in the couple of outcrosses ive seen.

He Never got it he claims he was growing my Thai x MM in 2012 and Nevil never germinated my Thai at most a few months before Kangas dramas started that was mid 2013 they were still small plants in veg when Kangas dramas happened. Crosses were made after that so nothing there saying matters you cant grow something that has not even been breed yet.

Nevil's close friends never got my Thai cross to MM.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Donald i know more about my Thai than any one posting trust me when i say you dont have it even in a cross or do others.

Nevil was always honest with me and kept his ward how do you know what Nevil did from what Nevil told me you only spoke to him a few times.

The sad part in all of this is the shady shit that went on behind the seen and as a result of that i am not willing to share now.

You wont bring up the shady shit pulled on Nevil will you Donald funny that.

Who was the guy Trading Kangas genetics to other seed banks wasn't Nevil was it.

Who was the guy selling both Nevil and Kangas work.

Who was the guy that worked and preserved Kangas lines that would all be lost that's right that would be Nevil.

nope i didnt bring u;p any of that as it has nothing to do with the topic at hand ,
its better to stay on one topic at a time and not get distracted by other stuff that has little to do with it ,

the guy selling the seeds was a guy nevil employed to do so , but he screwed him over from what i recall ,
\and dont kid yourself that nevil was doing anything to help kanga ,
he was helping himself hempy ...
take those glasses off man , be real and see the real picture ,

what happened between kanga and nevil was much the same thing that happened between nevil and all of his other partners ,
i was warned of that by a previous partner of his ,
and it was advised we stay well clear ,
im glad we listened ,

but yes of course ,, he never kept his word to all his other partners ,
but you he did , of course hempy ...
as i said take off those glasses man ...

(see what happens when we go off topic??)

 

[clearheaded]

ok cool, thanks i didnt know that! Think i have some of that swiss thai cross comings. but with another haze and chem.. not sure if chem will wreck the hazeness effect even if only 15% chem.

 

[@hempy]

nope i didnt bring u;p any of that as it has nothing to do with the topic at hand ,
its better to stay on one topic at a time and not get distracted by other stuff that has little to do with it ,

the guy selling the seeds was a guy nevil employed to do so , but he screwed him over from what i recall ,
\and dont kid yourself that nevil was doing anything to help kanga ,
he was helping himself hempy ...
take those glasses off man , be real and see the real picture ,

what happened between kanga and nevil was much the same thing that happened between nevil and all of his other partners ,
i was warned of that by a previous partner of his ,
and it was advised we stay well clear ,
im glad we listened ,

but yes of course ,, he never kept his word to all his other partners ,
but you he did , of course hempy ...
as i said take off those glasses man ...

(see what happens when we go off topic??)

There is always 2 sides to a story Donald and who was selling his seed romeo ? didn't he rip many off including Nevil ?.

I am glad i had nothing to do with any of it or do i care it is non of my businesses.

You should stay neutral Donald as it had nothing to do with you also but your taking sides in something you know nothing off you may MAY know some of 1 side of it but you dont know the hole picture.Your being biased towards Nevil and that is not were the facts come from do they.

 

[@hempy]

Your interest in this is to prove My Thia cross to MM hermied and it was shit but the funny part is you never grew it.

Like it or not Donald you never grew my line in a hybrid Wallynolands knows it i know it and so do others.

I could say more but i don't like throwing people under buses.

Few people stayed loyal in this i did to both Nevil and to Kanga.

The person your defending and using as a reference stayed loyal to no one.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Your interest in this is to prove My Thia cross to MM hermied and it was shit but the funny part is you never grew it.

Like it or not Donald you never grew my line in a hybrid Wallynolands knows it i know it and so do others.

I could say more but i don't like throwing people under buses.

Few people stayed loyal in this i did to both Nevil and to Kanga.

The person your defending and using as a reference stayed loyal to no one.

just to be clear ,
\it doesnt bother me one bit if i did or didnt grow any genetics that came from you,
the way you carry on about it , if i had heard that before i started the seed,
it would have put me off growing them at all , honestly ,
a lot of fuss over something that hardly anyone has ever had ,
too good to be shared apparently,

i have always shared the good stuff i have had ,
if you dont , and like to boast about something but then not share it around ,
then you are a poor member of the community we are a part of imho ...
like waving the old carrot in front of noses and never letting them have a taste ,

i have no interest in proving anything about your stuff hempy ,
if you knew how recessive traits worked , the hermie thing wouldnt bother you ....

my point was someone u were loyal too , probably was not the same in return ,
the point was to introduce doubt ,
thats all i need to do ...

deny all you like man ...

 

[@hempy]

just to be clear ,
\it doesnt bother me one bit if i did or didnt grow any genetics that came from you,
the way you carry on about it , if i had heard that before i started the seed,
it would have put me off growing them at all , honestly ,
a lot of fuss over something that hardly anyone has ever had ,
too good to be shared apparently,

i have always shared the good stuff i have had ,
if you dont , and like to boast about something but then not share it around ,
then you are a poor member of the community we are a part of imho ...
like waving the old carrot in front of noses and never letting them have a taste ,

i have no interest in proving anything about your stuff hempy ,
if you knew how recessive traits worked , the hermie thing wouldnt bother you ....

my point was someone u were loyal too , probably was not the same in return ,
the point was to introduce doubt ,
thats all i need to do ...

deny all you like man ...

I would of shared it freely but after the crap pulled at MrNice no not a chance why would i share genetics with people who only seek drama with me ?.

I have always shared genetics and still do.

Nevil and Kangas businesses was there's and there's alone 2 sides to every story and like domestic or family disagreements you stay out of it.

 

[Sub24ox7]

Honestly I thought you wouldn’t share it because of some promise to the person who gave it to you? I can get that. Shit... I have been reading the boards a LONG time.
I am really glad to be here and don’t want to piss anyone off but I said it.
I love cannabis and people who love cannabis should all get along. I dislike this silly drama, I should be getting the mm x Thai78 in the next few days and I will document it here.
Hope I didn’t piss anyone off. Peace

p.s. All the haze sharing makes this place to be!
this place has the best community! I plan on making as many seedsman O. Haze crosses as I can and share with anyone. Peace