Burmese - The Real Seed Company

[ThaiBliss]

Sometimes one needs to let them get really ripe. I seen plants that weren't especially impressive become devastating two weeks later. Every strain is different for best peak harvest. In fact, I learned this lesson on a S.E. Asian strain.

 

[Lolo94]

not totally sedating but a relaxing buzz. its more the way the bud looked that was unique

in the late 90's I was in NW Thailand and I hiked to a tribal village a couple miles from the Burmese border. I paid a guy to go get me weed, which I assume came from Burma because the area was big for cross border smuggling. Any way the weed was bluish tint and kinda chunky in the buds that lacked the electric vibe.
not like anything I have ever seen in Thailand. Ive always wondered if it was a Burmese landrace or something that arrived there more recently .

Interesting. I was in NW Thailand around the same period and wrote about it in more detail on the Laughing Cannabis Thread. I have no idea exactly where it was, but remember the guide pointing out the King's castle in the distance (past Chang Rai) and mentioning that we had a couple days hike from there. I'm pretty sure the village I was at was growing it, because they gave me seeds. Never got to see the plants though. I didn't get to see the buds either since what we smoked was wrapped in corn cobs and looked similar to what was described in the Malawi Cob thread. As I described before, the high was a mixture of fits of laughter and mild paranoia. Part of it may have been due to location and the stories of the Burmese Army. I also had some of their local corn liquor earlier (which was really smooth). Not sure that may have had an effect, but typically alcohol puts me to sleep and I was wide awake all night long.
I'm not sure if the strain originated from Thailand or Burma since we were practically on the border (bent over and tied down bamboo according to the elders marked the border). As I previously mentioned in other threads, seeds were really large. I have never seeds that big since. I also haven't bought seeds commercially from the area, so take it for what it is.

Burma is a large country. I think there is likely a large range of plants and effects from what is produced there.

 

[Genghis Kush.]

Interesting. I was in NW Thailand around the same period and wrote about it in more detail on the Laughing Cannabis Thread. I have no idea exactly where it was, but remember the guide pointing out the King's castle in the distance (past Chang Rai) and mentioning that we had a couple days hike from there. I'm pretty sure the village I was at was growing it, because they gave me seeds. Never got to see the plants though. I didn't get to see the buds either since what we smoked was wrapped in corn cobs and looked similar to what was described in the Malawi Cob thread. As I described before, the high was a mixture of fits of laughter and mild paranoia. Part of it may have been due to location and the stories of the Burmese Army. I also had some of their local corn liquor earlier (which was really smooth). Not sure that may have had an effect, but typically alcohol puts me to sleep and I was wide awake all night long.
I'm not sure if the strain originated from Thailand or Burma since we were practically on the border (bent over and tied down bamboo according to the elders marked the border). As I previously mentioned in other threads, seeds were really large. I have never seeds that big since. I also haven't bought seeds commercially from the area, so take it for what it is.

Burma is a large country. I think there is likely a large range of plants and effects from what is produced there.

90's in thailand was fun. indeed, Burma is a large and geographically diverse place with 135 different ethnic groups. I never had the courage to buy weed while I was in Burma but there must be a lot of unknown diversity from west to east and north to south

 

[Lebanizer]

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[Lebanizer]

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I have. A decent population last year. I wasn’t able to get any photos as the season was so busy and because of other factors. But in (relatively) short:

The sort of plant: Big vigorous pure Sativa with large fluffy buds like some of the old Columbians, similar bud structure, too. Possibly the most vigorous Sativa I’ve grown and I’ve grown a good number. (Very tall even with significant root restriction!) !!Some of the buds cure to brown like some classic ‘Thai’ strains!!

Smell (when growing): Mango-carrot and spicy hazy with a bit of incensey-ness and a sweet-citric bite.

Smell (when dried): Peppery, hazy, herbal, minty, oregano, incense, citric, strong ‘waxy’ tropical Sativa smell. The mango smell is a bit more subdued on drying.

Flavor: Extremely spicy, herbal, tobacco-y, smooth, incense.

Potency: High to extremely high.

High: (The best plants in a good amount) Very, very strongly stimulating, turns on your brain, weird thoughts, closed and open eye visuals. Too intense and overwhelming for some people. Tends more towards trippiness than euphoria.

Conclusion: This Landrace has the characteristics that many Sativa lovers are after, the ones that are hard to come by these days. If you want plants that can be scary and mindbending, this is a great strain. If you’re prone to paranoia or panic attacks then you might want to avoid this sort of herb. There’s a lot of diversity in the line still despite being nearly true breeding for sound to very high potency.

The guy behind RSC said that a Lao grower brought seeds back from Burma cause he was impressed. I see why,

Hope this helps. I’ll try and get some photos this season.

Let me know if you have any further questions!

(BTW, if you do decide to grow them, I highly encourage you (or anyone else) to make seeds of the pure line before crossing if you intend to cross them. This sort of effect is rare even in pure Sativas and they're gradually getting crossed out of existence......)

So that's you who wrote that report. I bought the Burmese because of that report. Angus included it in his strain description. It sure sounds enticing ! I'm looking forward to it but have so many stuff going on now.

 

[Lebanizer]

Subbed, got the same feeling about this strain as nanda devi

In a nice way ?

 

[MAHA KALA]

Sometimes one needs to let them get really ripe. I seen plants that weren't especially impressive become devastating two weeks later. Every strain is different for best peak harvest. In fact, I learned this lesson on a S.E. Asian strain.

it was grown hundred of years in tropics, under the sun and in free ground.

and now you await that when grow indoors in pots, under leds, it will be killer pot? without any indoor adaptability? it takes some work to bring indoor adaptability to such variety.

I bet that it is much better pot when grown properly in Mekong area.

 

[queer]

Greetings and salutations!

I've been growing a few of these plants indoors and was curious if anyone has grown out a male indoors. I have one male plant (of four total), and around 5-6 weeks into flowering, the male started expressing female flowers. The female plants haven't expressed any signs of male flowers that I've seen, and so I'm curious if anyone's seen signs of this in the male plants, or if this one is an outlier. See attached pictures for some details.

With that said, I fully understand that I'm growing an outdoor variety indoors (not much choice due to the short outdoor season around here), and that it is likely just an issue with my environment not lining up with what the plant wants. If I have to put up with it for the next couple years to select for better indoor adaptability as I go, that's fine. I'm just unsure of what I should expect with these plants.

 

[Lebanizer]

Males going LGBT is "classic" Thai/SEA landrace behavior when growing in the closet the first generations. Not all of them but it's to be expected. It's not specifc to this strain.

 

[Tranquilidade]

Males going LGBT

 

[gedLang]

Greetings and salutations!

I've been growing a few of these plants indoors and was curious if anyone has grown out a male indoors. I have one male plant (of four total), and around 5-6 weeks into flowering, the male started expressing female flowers. The female plants haven't expressed any signs of male flowers that I've seen, and so I'm curious if anyone's seen signs of this in the male plants, or if this one is an outlier. See attached pictures for some details.

With that said, I fully understand that I'm growing an outdoor variety indoors (not much choice due to the short outdoor season around here), and that it is likely just an issue with my environment not lining up with what the plant wants. If I have to put up with it for the next couple years to select for better indoor adaptability as I go, that's fine. I'm just unsure of what I should expect with these plants.

If you look back through the thread, Dentex reported the same thing with his male plant.

There are some SE Asian lines that reportedly do not use the XY sex system, they are all XX and have genes that regulate the "male" vs. "female" flower expression (i.e. they are monoecious). This is original system of plant reproduction and not uncommon in the plant world in general. It can make breeding for sex stability a losing proposition for this type of plant, though it is still possible to find a stable female-expressing plant and clone it instead of making seeds. Not saying that this is for sure what is going on with your plants, but something to consider.

If that is the only male you got, may as well use it but I wouldn't know what to expect from the offspring.

Molecular cytogenetic analysis of monoecious hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) cultivars reveals its karyotype variations and sex chromosomes constitution - PubMed

Hemp (Cannabis sativa L., 2n = 20) is a dioecious plant. Sex expression is controlled by an X-to-autosome balance system consisting of the heteromorphic sex chromosomes XY for males and XX for females. Genetically monoecious hemp offers several agronomic advantages compared to the dioecious...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Genghis Kush.]

If you look back through the thread, Dentex reported the same thing with his male plant.

There are some SE Asian lines that reportedly do not use the XY sex system, they are all XX and have genes that regulate the "male" vs. "female" flower expression (i.e. they are monoecious). This is original system of plant reproduction and not uncommon in the plant world in general. It can make breeding for sex stability a losing proposition for this type of plant, though it is still possible to find a stable female-expressing plant and clone it instead of making seeds. Not saying that this is for sure what is going on with your plants, but something to consider.

If that is the only male you got, may as well use it but I wouldn't know what to expect from the offspring.

Molecular cytogenetic analysis of monoecious hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) cultivars reveals its karyotype variations and sex chromosomes constitution - PubMed

Hemp (Cannabis sativa L., 2n = 20) is a dioecious plant. Sex expression is controlled by an X-to-autosome balance system consisting of the heteromorphic sex chromosomes XY for males and XX for females. Genetically monoecious hemp offers several agronomic advantages compared to the dioecious...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

there has been no research to confirm that SE asian ganja plants do not use of XX and XY sex chromosomes.
it may turn out to be true but for now it is conjecture

 

[queer]

If you look back through the thread, Dentex reported the same thing with his male plant.

There are some SE Asian lines that reportedly do not use the XY sex system, they are all XX and have genes that regulate the "male" vs. "female" flower expression (i.e. they are monoecious). This is original system of plant reproduction and not uncommon in the plant world in general. It can make breeding for sex stability a losing proposition for this type of plant, though it is still possible to find a stable female-expressing plant and clone it instead of making seeds. Not saying that this is for sure what is going on with your plants, but something to consider.

If that is the only male you got, may as well use it but I wouldn't know what to expect from the offspring.

Molecular cytogenetic analysis of monoecious hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) cultivars reveals its karyotype variations and sex chromosomes constitution - PubMed

Hemp (Cannabis sativa L., 2n = 20) is a dioecious plant. Sex expression is controlled by an X-to-autosome balance system consisting of the heteromorphic sex chromosomes XY for males and XX for females. Genetically monoecious hemp offers several agronomic advantages compared to the dioecious...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Salutations!

Thanks for the information, I had missed it in my read of the thread. What kind of offspring I get is my main concern; I’m okay spending the next few years trying to breed this out of them, but I know that’ll be a long and difficult journey. I can definitely report back with what I see from using this pollen.

 

[MAHA KALA]

male with pistils should not be problem from my experience, it just put out males with pistils and females are relatively firm. but it is true that you never know.