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but have a few questions b4 i do.....
will this pump work for 25 sprayers:
will this pump work for 25 sprayers:
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well that didnt work so here we go:
http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010615zt9.jpg
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ill be using them red 360 sprayers with 1/2 in. pvc.
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They make 1/4" PVC Pipe? do you mean that is the thickness of the pipe wall? 1056 gph for 25 sprayers seems like a lot.
I have used 1200 gph for 70 sprayers with great success
I have used 1200 gph for 70 sprayers with great success
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thanks guys
I sugest a Leader Eco Plus 230 or 240. These pumps put out 58 and 60+ psi and thats what you want, lots of psi. Your gonna want to run a 3 minits off, 1 minit on cycle with it. Youl have to tweek your timing. 45 seconds on every 3 minits and 45 seconds worked good for me. Your also gonna want to keep your fog cooled down to at least 68 degreez. Your nutrient formula is very important too. Solar Greenhouse in Burnaby BC Canada has some 15-0-0 and some 0-27-17 that works great along with some Plant Lifes 10-60-10 and some Coolbloom. 1100 ppm's of the 0-27-17, 400 ppm's of the 15-0-0, 200 ppm's of the 10-60-10 and 100 ppm's of the Coolbloom for a total of 1800 ppm's work great for all phazes of flower. I used to take cuttings and root into bubble bukkits and flower the rooted cuttings aero so I dont know much about veggin aero but this is the best way I seen to flower aero! Check out the "Sugar Shack Junk Yard" thread in the growing section for a bit more info and lots of pics. You could prolly get some good ideas from the thread. Check out HairlessCaveApes gallery too. Its all aero tec. Blessins Brudda, I hope this endevor works good for you!
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Habibi that kinda what i was going to do but instead of using hose i was gonna go with something more like this...... hold up getting pictures
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got this picture from http://www.planetganja.com/highsociety/showthread.php?t=46929
ok now to finish what i was saying. instead of using the hoses to run the to spray i was wanting to run a pipe like this on the inside of them to spray
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the real spray pipe would be 4 1/2 ft. with 5 sprayers.
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man that Eco Plus 230 is a beast man way stronger then mine. why would i need it that big when some1 else done said mine was an over kill
East Valley
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well, i am of the personal opinion that acheiving a certain micron width particle of water in your spray is not needed. thats the arguement for "true aeroponics." but in the end, no matter how fine of a mist you create, the roots still get soaked. now, thats just my opinion, i dont want to ruffle anyones feathers.
take a look at aero units available for purchase, match their number of misters with yours, then look at the pump used for that model. that is what I would do.
take a look at aero units available for purchase, match their number of misters with yours, then look at the pump used for that model. that is what I would do.
I started out with a system similar to what you want to build (check my grow threads in my sig) but now Im finishing up a similar fence post system but no sprayers, just NFT and some random holes drilled into the 1/2" PVC.
Its quite easy to build if you have some basic tools and know where to get certain special items (like the bulkhead drains...and the posts and caps are usually special order). Feel free to ask anything here or in a PM. Im happy to help you get started.
EDIT: for effective use, you want two sprayers per plant site. You can get away with less but the sprayers are cheap and easy to install. TBug has a thread on here on DIY fence post aero. I copied his originally and it works well. Btw, just leave your water pump on 24/7, it wont hurt anything. I use an Ecoplus 633gph for 2 posts of 4 feet length (8 feet total....10 plants).
Its quite easy to build if you have some basic tools and know where to get certain special items (like the bulkhead drains...and the posts and caps are usually special order). Feel free to ask anything here or in a PM. Im happy to help you get started.
EDIT: for effective use, you want two sprayers per plant site. You can get away with less but the sprayers are cheap and easy to install. TBug has a thread on here on DIY fence post aero. I copied his originally and it works well. Btw, just leave your water pump on 24/7, it wont hurt anything. I use an Ecoplus 633gph for 2 posts of 4 feet length (8 feet total....10 plants).
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ItsGrowTime,
yeah i've been flowing some of your threads and thats where i got the idea of doing it between you a j.g.
i just feel them post cost way to much. its like 25 $ for the post and 2 covers.
have you noticed a difference since you switched or did you just start off with just the post?
yeah i've been flowing some of your threads and thats where i got the idea of doing it between you a j.g.
i just feel them post cost way to much. its like 25 $ for the post and 2 covers.
have you noticed a difference since you switched or did you just start off with just the post?
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so since you use theEcoplus 633gph you think ill be ok running 5 post with my 1056
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another question i got has any1 tried running co2 through the tubes also would that help any or would it cause problems
This may be a bit long but Ill try to answer your questions and pass on some tips.
Im currently finishing the build out of the new system. Its 3 posts, 6.5' each with 6 plant sites each. I advise again anything less than 10" spacing between holes. I started with 7" but its too crowded. I obviously havent run it yet but I may have it completed tonite (hopefully) but I dont think it will be any worse than the aero posts since the aero posts work more by NFT than aero anyway.
A 1000gph should work ok if you arent looking for HUGE spray. Huge spray isnt needed anyway, just steady spray. Also watch out for clogging sprayers if you use things like Liquid Karma, Floralicious or any other organics. A pump filter bag on the water pump is a requirement to keep clogging to a minimum.
CO2 wont hurt and it may help some. Ive read some things by Pod Racer addressing carbon loading in the roots. It might be more a pain than its worth though but I havent done it.
The $25 for a post is fairly expensive but you can do the math and adjust your post size so you dont have to buy extra. And $25 isnt much considering what you can get out of them. The posts are 98" so I would probably just buy two posts and cut them in half, for 4 posts total, instead of 5. 4 plants per post means 16 plants which is plenty IMHO. No reason to spend the extra on one post that you will only use half of. Plus less caps to buy. I dont know if you are in the USA but I can give you the exact part numbers to order from Home Depot if you are. Ive already done all the research so no point in withholding the info. Same with the bulkhead drains and assorted pieces parts that can be hard to track down.
Anyway, the system is good once you get the hang of it because its contained so less to build like with buckets and big reservoirs and stuff. The drawback is that the plants get locked in place by the roots so you cant move them around after a couple weeks (makes getting males out a pain). Also, avoid bonding pipes and stuff unless necessary. If you are careless you can end up building it but not making it possible to break back down if you ever need to! Aquarium silicone works well for sealing off leaks so use PVC cement sparingly. Hope all this helps! Ill probably be posting a new grow thread with the NFT posts so keep an eye out in the hydro section if you want to follow it.
Btw, what did you mean by "i got the idea of doing it between you a j.g."?
Im currently finishing the build out of the new system. Its 3 posts, 6.5' each with 6 plant sites each. I advise again anything less than 10" spacing between holes. I started with 7" but its too crowded. I obviously havent run it yet but I may have it completed tonite (hopefully) but I dont think it will be any worse than the aero posts since the aero posts work more by NFT than aero anyway.
A 1000gph should work ok if you arent looking for HUGE spray. Huge spray isnt needed anyway, just steady spray. Also watch out for clogging sprayers if you use things like Liquid Karma, Floralicious or any other organics. A pump filter bag on the water pump is a requirement to keep clogging to a minimum.
CO2 wont hurt and it may help some. Ive read some things by Pod Racer addressing carbon loading in the roots. It might be more a pain than its worth though but I havent done it.
The $25 for a post is fairly expensive but you can do the math and adjust your post size so you dont have to buy extra. And $25 isnt much considering what you can get out of them. The posts are 98" so I would probably just buy two posts and cut them in half, for 4 posts total, instead of 5. 4 plants per post means 16 plants which is plenty IMHO. No reason to spend the extra on one post that you will only use half of. Plus less caps to buy. I dont know if you are in the USA but I can give you the exact part numbers to order from Home Depot if you are. Ive already done all the research so no point in withholding the info. Same with the bulkhead drains and assorted pieces parts that can be hard to track down.
Anyway, the system is good once you get the hang of it because its contained so less to build like with buckets and big reservoirs and stuff. The drawback is that the plants get locked in place by the roots so you cant move them around after a couple weeks (makes getting males out a pain). Also, avoid bonding pipes and stuff unless necessary. If you are careless you can end up building it but not making it possible to break back down if you ever need to! Aquarium silicone works well for sealing off leaks so use PVC cement sparingly. Hope all this helps! Ill probably be posting a new grow thread with the NFT posts so keep an eye out in the hydro section if you want to follow it.
Btw, what did you mean by "i got the idea of doing it between you a j.g."?
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see the post im talking about are already cut into 4 or 5 ft. sections and they are $20 a piece then $2.50 a piece for caps...... hell if they came in 98" for 20 then it wouldnt be so bad. i might end up spending the extra cash. buy any chance you got a link to where i can get them at 98" ? that would be great.
