wow, thats a hell of a post there.
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Bubbles in reservoir
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good lord!! stitch wasnt kidding...extremely well put 10k. seems to me like you know pretty well what you're talking about so ill take your word for it. now with the actual pump that supplies top feed for the plants....i was told that it needs to be run 24hrs and it wont be overfed...not that im doubting you in the least but just would like to see your intake on that. i will take both the pump and fogger out and let you know in a few days how everything is looking from it. water still looked clear last night before the lights went out so i believe it was the bushmaster that created my problems. jeez that was a mess. Terribly NASTY. so anyways....about how you said i should do the 3-2-1 / 2-2-2 / 1-2-3 are you meaning first for the veg then what?; 2-2-2 to break the plants in a little bit for the light switch and finally to full bloom with the 1-2-3? is that something that has been tested as opposed the flip flop to prove out best results? oh and by the way, think you can you take a glance at my gallery; those 2 pictures of the nodes are males for sure right? well, thank you 10k; you have come through for me with excellent advice once again. very, very much appreciated. looking forward to your next post.
Thanks for the kudos 420cardholder
You're running DWC, but you've made it into sort of a 'hybrid' dwc system by adding a top drip toeach plant station. Its not really needed if the plants roots are reaching down into the aerated nute solution in your tub(s). If the pump isnt heating the res too much then I guess you cant complain. And, of course, it's not going to cause an overfeeding although its not great to have a constant wash at the base of the plant stems..they do like to have some dryness there. So if you continue top dripping make sure its not directly hitting at the base of the plants. Some folks make a drip ring with a 't' so it loops around the plant roughly three inch diameter and punch some dripper holes so they're not flowing straight at the stem. Submerged pumps do make heat, and that is why most people doing top drip hybrid systems similar to yours run their pumps in intermittent cycles so the pump don't build up as much heat in the reservior. But any added heat is bad news in dwc, so we have a quandry...
Personally though, I'd just pull the drip dealio altogether, and run it like a normal DWC system. As long as your roots are reaching into the solution, and the solution is well aerated with pleanty of bubbling (the good kind of bubbles using good air stones and a strong air pump,remote if possible), then you'll really not need anything else involved. If the plants are small and havent grown roots out of the netcups yet, then all you need to do is raise the water level so about an inch of the bottom of the cup is sticking down into the solution...the growrocks in the planters will 'wick' pleanty of moisture upwards in the rocks to support the plants until their roots have grown out more. Once they're growing out the bottom of the netcups, you can then lower the level to just below the cups and as much as a couple inches once the roots are hanging down into the solution enough.
There are several different recipes for GH multi-part nutes which work great for cannabis such as the lucas recipe, but this one, "the 123" is an old 'tried and true' adaptation of gh's recommendations and works very well for people new to using gh flora series nutes, and has been used by hundreds of thousands of happy mj growers worldwide.
Dont forget the epsom salts...and easy does it...they shouldnt need alot unless they're absolute mg hogs.
Read this link from the GrowFaq for another explaination...
http://www.****************/forums/faq.php?faq=new_faq_gh3part#faq_new_faq_123
It's kinda hard to tell for sure from the pictures, they're a bit out of focus to call em males for sure. But basically a male preflower will look sort of like a little bitty fist, while a female will look more like a single football shaped object.
hth,
10k
ps..Sorry about the outside linkage, we really need to put up a copy of the GrowFaq here at icmag, and upgrade it too, sometime in the future
You're running DWC, but you've made it into sort of a 'hybrid' dwc system by adding a top drip toeach plant station. Its not really needed if the plants roots are reaching down into the aerated nute solution in your tub(s). If the pump isnt heating the res too much then I guess you cant complain. And, of course, it's not going to cause an overfeeding although its not great to have a constant wash at the base of the plant stems..they do like to have some dryness there. So if you continue top dripping make sure its not directly hitting at the base of the plants. Some folks make a drip ring with a 't' so it loops around the plant roughly three inch diameter and punch some dripper holes so they're not flowing straight at the stem. Submerged pumps do make heat, and that is why most people doing top drip hybrid systems similar to yours run their pumps in intermittent cycles so the pump don't build up as much heat in the reservior. But any added heat is bad news in dwc, so we have a quandry...
Personally though, I'd just pull the drip dealio altogether, and run it like a normal DWC system. As long as your roots are reaching into the solution, and the solution is well aerated with pleanty of bubbling (the good kind of bubbles using good air stones and a strong air pump,remote if possible), then you'll really not need anything else involved. If the plants are small and havent grown roots out of the netcups yet, then all you need to do is raise the water level so about an inch of the bottom of the cup is sticking down into the solution...the growrocks in the planters will 'wick' pleanty of moisture upwards in the rocks to support the plants until their roots have grown out more. Once they're growing out the bottom of the netcups, you can then lower the level to just below the cups and as much as a couple inches once the roots are hanging down into the solution enough.
There are several different recipes for GH multi-part nutes which work great for cannabis such as the lucas recipe, but this one, "the 123" is an old 'tried and true' adaptation of gh's recommendations and works very well for people new to using gh flora series nutes, and has been used by hundreds of thousands of happy mj growers worldwide.
Dont forget the epsom salts...and easy does it...they shouldnt need alot unless they're absolute mg hogs.
Read this link from the GrowFaq for another explaination...
http://www.****************/forums/faq.php?faq=new_faq_gh3part#faq_new_faq_123
It's kinda hard to tell for sure from the pictures, they're a bit out of focus to call em males for sure. But basically a male preflower will look sort of like a little bitty fist, while a female will look more like a single football shaped object.
hth,
10k
ps..Sorry about the outside linkage, we really need to put up a copy of the GrowFaq here at icmag, and upgrade it too, sometime in the future
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i uploaded some better quality pictures of a few so maybe you can tell from those?? you said it goes by teaspoon per gallon...that means 3 of bloom per gallon 2 of micro per and 1 of gro......per gallon? so i have a 16.5 gallon reservoir....so i need about 48 teaspoons of bloom in there and such for the rest? doesnt make sense. ppms would be through the roof...i was just adding appropriate portions at a time untill i made the ppms i was looking for. and the airstone i have in tere isnt exactly the greatest either....not too sure how much its supposed to bubble in a tank that size but it doesnt look like much. what do you grow if any and what methods do you use?
In DWC you'd shoot for about half that strength or less, so cut the part size accordingly. But page back 420c, I explained this already. The spare mixing drum is the most convenient way of having ready to go...or ready to dilute more...mixed nutes, for res changes or topping off res maintenance.
You DO want to have a good strong dual outlet pump or even two strong aquarium pumps pushing into a couple large 18" air curtains or long bar type air stones.
For a tub that size, I'd run two wally world dual outlet pumps,each pump having both outlets 't'd together so it feeds to one large air curtain or large 18" flat bar type air stone. So thats two pumps feeding two big stones or curtains. 420C, I cant write a book for you on hydro system construction. We do have a forum here specifically for that purpose btw, and the indoor hydro forum. Check it out, there are several system construction threads for dwc. Just run an advanced search and you'll find tons of good info. Just shout (pm me) if you need help in that area, and I'd be happy to come join whatever thread about it there.
I've done mostly flood tables, but also dwc converted small flood tables and of course good ol soil & soilless. GH flora series, 123, lucas, PBP w/calmag, plus a miriad of guanos,emulsions and other forms of poop soup. But, my very all time favorite is working with the art of "goldfish" aquaponics. nothing tastes better btw The aquaponics which worked out best for me, was a recirculating system carrying the fish waters to and from a couple small dwc converted flood trays to a big tub-o-goldfish. Had alot of it documented at Overgrow, but sadly it's all gone now.
