BRxSI & NLXxTWSP indoor grow

[greekguy]

nice nice, thx for the "understanding"...
give us some pics man, u maybe wanna think of putting the hps on the side like i have, check pic no.4 in my thread, the thing is that cannabis wants to get as more light as it can get,and usually to do that it needs to get "higher" -closer to the lamp.
to get the CONCENTRATED light the is emmited from the big hid-lamp.

BUT!!!! if u put to the side of the plant(and close to it-plz ceck 4th pic in my thread), it realizes that nomatter how tall it will get it wont get anything more.
combine this fact with the fact that all the freshnodes are being directly lighten by the side-lamp and u get the densiest-shortest bush that u would have wished for...
I DID!!! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
plz check, and share ur thoughts...

the thing with dense is that the main problem with canna is space, so the denser the better.

with my technique i got plants that are less than 15cm, have 10 developed nodes, preflowers,alternating nodes of 3rd stage, preflowers,150 !COUNTED! tips growing in each one and all that in 20 days...

try it!

 

[greekguy]

The thing is that in my last grow to get preflowers i had to w8 untill the plant was more than 0.5m high, now in less than 15cm ??? I LOVE THIS! ALSO IDIDNT TOP EM.

excuse my bragging in ur thread but i want to share my "knowledge".-that i believe is right!

 

[Guest]

Thats awsome Ill take a look later today and check it out. Gotta get ready for work. Just a small update (I will take pictures later today) After putting the HPS on them for not even 24 HRs and WOW what a difference they like jumped up and just started going all for growing there little hearts out. They look great.

 

[greekguy]

as long as u have the fuell sit back and enjoy the ride...

 

[Guest]

11 Days, Light is switched to 18/6 as it on the 400 Watt HPS, plants get quite a bit bigger, unfortunetly these pictures don't do them justice because i didn't feel lik dragging the plants out of the HPS. I'll take some better ones on the next update.

I will be transplanting them, most likely tomarrow into 1 gal pots.

Smoke News from my last batch: Woke up this morning and went to go smoke a bong to start off my day and what do you know... I dryed my asia girl out way to much and lost a long. Got stoned, but coughed up a big one, so i'm currently in the porcess of trying to fix that, hopefully it comes back, it was some smooth smoke. Got to learn from your mistakes right?

as long as u have the fuell sit back and enjoy the ride...

I will enjoy my ride, My 2 Fans came into day for my Rubbermaid Lowryder project. Just need the adapters now.

 

[Guest]

These are just some quick pics. For security reasons I couldnt take them far out of ym closet, but they were just transplanted into 1 gal buckets. They are dropling a bit and im not sure why, I def have not over watered them as they get water by the weight ofthe bucket. roughly every 3-4 days. I'll try to take a few more pics but if anyone has any idea what could be going on please let me know thanks.

My new grow room will be operational momentarly Im recieving my 265 CFM Dayton blower today, so I will be finishing my room and show everyone what i've done.

 

[greekguy]

i have some ideas...
-over fert?
-high temp- ur new hps is a hard bastard u know! try putting ur hand in the same lvl of the plants and see if it gets a hot if its more than a bit hot position it higher- i presonally have very good circulation, and the lamp at 0,5m distance -and i still have a bit higher hit that what i d like to...
-bad circlulation?

u said that its not overwatering but... try and leaving the soil once go crispy dry and see what happens...

 

[Guest]

They yet to have any ferts. And circulation is great I know that I'm thinking temps could have been to high, my door wasn't open to let new air in so the heat prob built up inside my cab. They are looking better and I finally got everything I need to build my grow room, besides a few things from home depot. Only thing I'm not sure about is how to Hook up my Daton fan I got. It has nothing to hook onto to allow it to suspend or what not. It will take some thinking But ill figure something out.

 

[greekguy]

ok look i drawing that i did, i know that if u can afford to make this i believe its perfect!



it can be made from "white"wood u ll need another fan - u know jorje cervantes once said that air circulation is 90%... and i tell u smth a plant can grow in anything anywhere -even in the dark. BUT! if no air dead in a minute...

but the thing in my drawing i think is dead cheap! superstealthy! and gives u great space for soil- i was planning to make a wooden box for my closet- but i decided to make my pots fit

also i have another idead about ur problems, the soil u used, what was it? had u used that before? if yes transpant imediattly to bigger pots with fresh soil of 6-7ph that u will by NOW! from some gardening store... -dont be cheap with ur soil its ur plants home and food buy the best one!

 

[Guest]

high kreate

high kreate

measure the pH of the water going in,
and, pH of the run-off

cj

 

[Guest]

Would Home Depot sell PH kits or do you think I should goto the hydroponic shop? I've never checked my ph, but the soil mix is one i've always use called Promix-BX, it has always worked great. Might be the water because I'm in a different area then my first grow. I'll try to get a kit and then maybe find some ph adjust. Thanks for stopping by, new pics to come soon!

also to adjust the soil PH, is it basically using PH adjusted water to get it where you need it?

 

[kubrickhal]

Can't help you there but its looking good overall. I'm gonna plant tomorrow (I just finished my box) so I'm gonna check back here and use this as a guide, hope you don't mind. You seem to have your shit together. lol

 

[Guest]

Hey thanks for stopping by, hope you enjoy the process, there getting quite a bit bigger. Soon I will FIM them which is basically just cutting the top node off do it grows two more branches, I like this because insted of getting one main cola you now have two. I think its better in the long run, I Ushally do it 2-3 times.

I will try to post pics again sometime soon =)

 

[Guest]

get it done..

get it done..

high kreat
pH test kits (the manual kind) are OK. Many use them with success, BOG swears by them , my friends and I all use them, as long as they are made specifically for monitoring garden pH. With pH kits, the more you pay, the better the accuracy IME... A good kit should cost about 5 bucks (pm me for a local place that may have them :wink: ) but if you want to make life easier, for now, and in the longrun, when you may experiment with hydroponics,
a waterproof pH meter, with digital readout is ideal.

My advice, spend the dough on the meter with DIGITAL readout or if ya have a hankerin for hydro, get one that reads pH AND ec or ppm all in one...
There are legit gardener/greenhouse supply outfits that sell them, you don't need to leave a paper trail, find a safe addy, or show your face at a hydro shop whether it be bricks and mortar, or online, until you are actually going hydro, unless there is something you specifically can't find anywhere else, i strongly advise against it, but don't listen to me, nobody does
here's something all will agree on,
DO NOT buy anything made by "Rapid-Test" (commonly found at HD or Lowes, and most garden centers/nurseries)
They're absolute trash...you'll be digging for the reciept to return the fuckers in no time.... don't get sucked into the moisture meter either, your finger is just fine...
speaking of soil moisture
How often are you watering? The soil should be left to dry out completely before next watering, dry soil = mucho o2 to the roots, but be careful not to let the pots stay dry, once they have dryed out 1.5 inches down (use your finger) it's time for another watering.
i spy your soil is drying out unevenly, the rim is ok, it's the blotches here and there of dry soil that caught my eye.
you want to encourage lateral root growth, water evenly. Roots won't explore a dry soil, they seek moisture, oxygen is good, but they reach for water and nutes, nutes arent active in dry soil, meaning your plant won't absorb anything in dry soil.
Water, is essential for the uptake of available nutrients***the same goes for pH***

Water the entire surface of the soil, lightly, rather than poured on all at once, which can suffocate the roots,
you say you can tell the soil containers weight.. this is good, now you know how much water each plant takes for the most part...
NOW YOU CAN DO THIS:
water-in half, by volume, the amount of water/nute solution needed try to EVENLY saturate the entire soil surface so you do not see any dry spots, go smoke a joint, come back twenty minutes later and water the other half of their feed in, again fully covering the soils surface area, NOW the soil surface has been watered twice-over, evenly, leaving no room for human-error (dry spots below).
since you only watered with HALF the usual amount per container each time, you have NOT over watered.
smoke another joint.
a watering can is golden..
you can make one by punching holes in cups if you feel like ghetto-teching it. This will exclude overwatering as an issue in the future, as those plants look to be drowning and suffering a slight defieciency (likely on due to the pH) ..so, you made the macguyver-styled sprinkling water can dispenser-matic, OK, smoke a victory bong

good luck, keep us updated is a new thread in order? maybe do each strain in it's own thread, that would be real cool
happy sunday, kreat
cj

ps- pm me if you want a link to a good test kit or meter from an online gardener supply house, save you the troubles of the hydro store.

 

[Guest]

I will post pics tomarrow, But right now I think i got a problem. The bottom few leaves have been dieing and the leaves are starting to get crispy i guess you can say, they feel like if i bend them the leaves will just crack right in half. anyone have any idea what this could be from?

 

[Guest]

carefully, and with a clean cut, remove any necro'd foliage, dead leaf hanging off the plant, in nature, is blown away with the wind, also the threat of fungi and bugs, as these things are attracted to dead plant material.. Get rid of the dead leaves once theyre sucked fully dry if they have not corrected themselves.

you are suffering from some defieciency, what and why i don't know maybe the pics will help.
what are they eating? did you order that kit yet? or buy one locally? pH can really do a number on a plant's overall health, not having ANY idea is no good, especially not knowing what it is right out of the tap.. they are not my plants so i can not diagnose, just offer experience and hopefully you will find the answers within yourself (or your feeding regimine )

hope this helps

cj

 

[Guest]

carefully, and with a clean cut, remove any necro'd foliage, dead leaf hanging off the plant, in nature, is blown away with the wind, also the threat of fungi and bugs, as these things are attracted to dead plant material.. Get rid of the dead leaves once theyre sucked fully dry if they have not corrected themselves.

you are suffering from some defieciency, what and why i don't know maybe the pics will help.
what are they eating? did you order that kit yet? or buy one locally? pH can really do a number on a plant's overall health, not having ANY idea is no good, especially not knowing what it is right out of the tap.. they are not my plants so i can not diagnose, just offer experience and hopefully you will find the answers within yourself (or your feeding regimine )

hope this helps

cj

I will get rid of the dead leaves as soon as possible. The pH im not sure yet, I ordered the Ph kit and some ph up and down, Once it comes in ill have a better idea on where i am with the situation. I'm going out soon to purchase Pure Blend Grow (For flowering i'm using a mixture of Pure Blend Pro Bloom, EJ Catalyst, EJ Bloom at the end of the flowering cycle.

Insted of using tap water would it be advisable to run the water through a filter insted? It should remove some of the crap in the water(especially since I live in a big city, the water is worst then my home town) And hopefully soon my Ph kit will come in soon enough. Thanks for all the help. Ill save some of the leaves so I can take a picture tomarrow before I remove some of them.

 

[Guest]

Well here is what I promised some pictures of the babies them selves. The pictures them selves arn't all that great ( i need a lot more lighting, unfortunetly my room only have 1 light fixture.) I will try to get some better pictures But i think you can get the idea of whats going on with the plants. I still havn't recieved the pH kit but I started to used filter water and hopefully it will be a bit better then straight tap water (I have a brita filter) Thanks for the help and check out the grow!

These first two are two different plants but with the same symphtom, they are curling and yllowing with brown spots (dang they got a lot of color!) The leaves are birttle, not all the leaves just the ones showing the discororation.




This last plant just shows one of the sick plants is growing yellow leaves at the bottom of the plant. This could be from not the right nutes since well, I don't have them yet.


And heres a group shot of all the babies. This also incluse 5 Lowryders I just started. I also ripped out the mutant plant and it was showing no help, but I cut her down and am attempting to clone her as i've never done a clone before. Figured it was worth a shot since she was getting the slice anyway. I have Rootech clone solution with peat pellets and two 10oz clear cups stacked on top of each other taped shut.




Lowryder babies

 

[Guest]

Hi Kreat,

I had the same problem with a plant a long time ago, that you have. I didnt know what to do, and the plant didnt make it. If I would have knowledge about ICmag than, I would ask here But I dont know what is wrong with your plant.. sorry.

I would try to transplant them, but you know what your situation is...

Hope all the BEST!

Stay cool and see you around,
Agnes

 

[Guest]

Well i found out what it was, it was pH malfunction. I havn't updated my thread in a while. The girls are looking really sweet. Ill try to take some picture tonight thanks agnes!