Bruce Willis: Patriot and truth seeker

[treble]

marx2k thats the site man, SSOG good to see someone makin noise down under there

you gotta break the program people... I can see it happening... the cracks are everywhere and the light of truth is shining in.... I dont get strange looks anymore when I tell people what the US govt is up to. people got it, they just trying to get a grip on it.

keep talking about it and getting it out there.... the person you tell today may not get it today but you got the seed planted, move on an let nature takes its course...

your all johnny appleseeds for the truth, get out there and tell it long and loud. And be proud at it. Being a Patriot is nothing to be frightend of. Its what your country was built on. When you stand up you will see that others are already standing and you will see the strength you have as a people.

sorry....rant... here endeth the lesson
peace all
treb

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

Damn straight treble!

I have been trying to plant seeds since way back when... Huge props to Overgrow for leading me to Alex Jones and 9/11 Truth. Probably the first place online it was openly discussed

Dan42nepa: I dont mean to be rude but shouldnt your statement read "I just dont really want to believe the 9/11 thing."

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

I have been interested in the kennedy assasination conspiracy theory for years going back to the 60's and Mark Lane. I just dont really believe the 9/11 thing.

There are many different theories on both the JFK assassination and 9/11, and just because one seems plausible or even convincing doesn't mean that you have to go for the others as well.

In the JFK assassination, there are simply too many strange coincidences and indications of conspiracy, that when you add them all up, the probability of conspiracy is way much higher than the probability of a lone Lee Harvey Oswald firing three near perfect shots from his Mannlicher-Carcano rifle, with a badly mounted sight (something none of the expert marksment from the D.C.P.D managed to reproduce. In fact, they didn't even manage to fire the very rifle that was found in the Texas SchoolBook Depository, it was in such a poor condition, so they used an identical Mannlicher-Carcano rifle for the tests).

 

[robobond]

There are many different theories on both the JFK assassination and 9/11, and just because one seems plausible or even convincing doesn't mean that you have to go for the others as well.

In the JFK assassination, there are simply too many strange coincidences and indications of conspiracy, that when you add them all up, the probability of conspiracy is way much higher than the probability of a lone Lee Harvey Oswald firing three near perfect shots from his Mannlicher-Carcano rifle, with a badly mounted sight (something none of the expert marksment from the D.C.P.D managed to reproduce. In fact, they didn't even manage to fire the very rifle that was found in the Texas SchoolBook Depository, it was in such a poor condition, so they used an identical Mannlicher-Carcano rifle for the tests).

To play the devils advocate they weren't perfect shots. The first shot was never found. The second entered kennedys neck area and the third and final hit his head. Another interesting thing to note and something people don't realize when they mention his body movements during the shots is that kennedy was wearing a back brace in the car because he had back problems. He also was rumored to have smoked marijuana for this very problem. Also bullets are hard to reproduce a path. If youve ever heard the story of a police officer and a gunman firing a whole clip towards each other from 30 feet away and missing every time you'll understand what a mean. It's only when it happens to us that we think there was a higher power or something involved. Kinda like earth. If we ever locate another planet then more shall think of us as lucky rather than planned and placed here for a purpose.

 

[Dan42nepa]

I dont know... i am a little rusty on all the theorys but Oswald working at the book depository a month ahead of time not knowing the future route of the motorcade, to me, shows no master plot just a quick plan to shoot from there by him. I saw a show once that proved the magic bullet theory could have happened the way it was described. I dont remember the facts. The things that bother me are:

1. Mysterious deaths of the majority of witness's

2. Botched handling of the corpse at the hospital. Didnt the doctor stick a pencil or something in the wound or something? Also he wasnt the best choice as doctor when many more were available.

3. Motorcade using open cars for this trip for the first time and having limited secret service presence.

4. The doctored photo of oswald holding the rifle. Something with the shadows proves it was faked?

5. The puff of smoke and gunshots heard by many witness from the grassy knoll.

6. Why use the mannlicher Carcanno if oswald was an ex marine and had access in texas to many superior weapons available from any hunting store.

 

[robobond]

I dont know... i am a little rusty on all the theorys but Oswald working at the book depository a month ahead of time not knowing the future route of the motorcade, to me, shows no master plot just a quick plan to shoot from there by him. I saw a show once that proved the magic bullet theory could have happened the way it was described. I dont remember the facts. The things that bother me are:

1. Mysterious deaths of the majority of witness's

2. Botched handling of the corpse at the hospital. Didnt the doctor stick a pencil or something in the wound or something? Also he wasnt the best choice as doctor when many more were available.

3. Motorcade using open cars for this trip for the first time and having limited secret service presence.

4. The doctored photo of oswald holding the rifle. Something with the shadows proves it was faked?

5. The puff of smoke and gunshots heard by many witness from the grassy knoll.

6. Why use the mannlicher Carcanno if oswald was an ex marine and had access in texas to many superior weapons available from any hunting store.

As far as the open motorcade goes it was kennedy who suggested it.

If u wish heres the autopsy photos for kennedy.

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/

 

[Guest]

I think it was planned and executed by the US gubbmint. There was one piece of evidence that caused me to simply thinking about it to knowing it was a hit.

Bush was doing a town hall type meeting after the attacks, and makes a remark about seeing that first plane hit the tower. How could he see that first plane as it happened?

Freudian slip.

He saw a simulation.

 

[Dan42nepa]

This pic is disturbing... Is it suppose to prove the tower was on fire before the plane hit?





Anyway, heres a link for the popular mechanics story which attempst to debunk the 9/11 conspiracy theory.

 

[Dan42nepa]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

 

[RollingStoned]

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/100806popularmechanics.htm

 

[genkisan]

I dont know... i am a little rusty on all the theorys but Oswald working at the book depository a month ahead of time not knowing the future route of the motorcade, to me, shows no master plot just a quick plan to shoot from there by him. I saw a show once that proved the magic bullet theory could have happened the way it was described. I dont remember the facts. The things that bother me are:

1. Mysterious deaths of the majority of witness's

2. Botched handling of the corpse at the hospital. Didnt the doctor stick a pencil or something in the wound or something? Also he wasnt the best choice as doctor when many more were available.

3. Motorcade using open cars for this trip for the first time and having limited secret service presence.

4. The doctored photo of oswald holding the rifle. Something with the shadows proves it was faked?

5. The puff of smoke and gunshots heard by many witness from the grassy knoll.

6. Why use the mannlicher Carcanno if oswald was an ex marine and had access in texas to many superior weapons available from any hunting store.

How about the fact that the single most important piece of forensic evidence, JFK's brain, was LOST by the US govt........

 

[robobond]

Also oswald wasn't an ex marine. He was from I believe russia originally and was familiar with the action of the firearm. Also could have been a price issue.

 

[Guest]

Cash rules . $$$$

everything around us, ching, get the money...dolla dolla bill yall


the united states version of a method man track

 

[Dan42nepa]

Also oswald wasn't an ex marine. He was from I believe russia originally and was familiar with the action of the firearm. Also could have been a price issue.

Oswald was in the service and I believe the Marine corp. He lived in russia later and met his wife before moving back to the US. Check it out.

 

[robobond]

Oswald was in the service and I believe the Marine corp. He lived in russia later and met his wife before moving back to the US. Check it out.

ah I see where I got confused. He defected to the soviet union. This reminds me has anyone played the game JFK: Reloaded. Try a google search on it. It's freeware now so you should be able to download and play for free.

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

This kind of thread would have attracted many flamers just a few years ago...

How times have changed, but at what cost?

 

[Bob Labla]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AQdphWO2SQ&eurl=http://forums.joerogan.net/showthread.php?t=57672

 

[Northern_Greens]

ok, i seriously cant read this....i keep geeking out at the thought of the title too hard to sit down and read it all the way through, can someone gimmie a breif synopsis plz?


N_G

 

[_angst_]

Striking Distance = the bomb

 

[Nikijad4210]

Yeah I agree. Funny how 9/11 wasn't just dismissed as just some crazed terrorist attacking but instead it leads to invading Iraq which didn't have anything to do with 9/11 and it was part of the "stopping terror war".

But Yummy, you forget---Bush needed a scapegoat to do whatever the fuck he wanted, and falsely linking 9-11 to Saddam was as convienient as it got for him.