breeding med weed strains

[tazz11]

OK lets get some input from all of you out there that use or grow med weed strains . I have been breeding headies for over 25 years and a few med weed strains along the way .. so here is the chance to add some in put ...


what do you look for in a med weed .. ?


we want a soft smoke easy on the lungs . deep long lasting Sativa dominated high , with that slow creeper and no upper end ...


dose the Med weeds you smoke give you whatt they say they can ...?


there is a lot of good med weeds out there on the market , what works best for you ?


one of our test on the Abducted strain base is to not smoke for 2 weeks and then only take one normal hit to get fully stoned .. dose your weed do that ? one normal hit of a joint ...? no guessing if your stoned or not you are and you know it ...lol


so feel free and add what you can to the replies .. we would like to hear from you ...what makes a good med weed for you ...?


dose your strain pass the week test , one normal hit twice or 3 times a day for 7 days with out loss of potency ...or quality of high ..?


this post is about med weeds and their effects and how they relate to the smoker .. now we under stand there are many levels of med weed and reasons to use them . so feel free to share what you can .. and under stand I have 4 graves I visit and I feel your pain ...med weeds are not just a high to me ...but some times that's what works with out side effects ...so this post is yours your feed back can help you and many others ...

 

[shawkmon]

most any weed on the planet gets me high on 1 hit when i havent smoked in 2 weeks, medical weed is a term used loosely and means nothing to me. all weed is medicinal . with that said, i went to cali fornia and tried some strains and seems they grow for money out there and there is way better strains that i like that arent really in the grow for money scene,. pretty much the best weed is different for everyone, we all have a diff combination of canabanoid receptors. grow the weed ya like, the weed you like probably wouldnt be considered medical, they are mostly boring indicas that put me to sleep and have nothing motivating . some people like that , i do at night , but i like smoking weed all day , i like to eat and sleep at night. good luck , i say stick with your sat hybrids and dont beieve the hype

 

[pop_rocks]

"I have been breeding headies for over 25 years and a few med weed strains along the way .."

ive always wondered what is the main difference between "medicinal weed" and just "dank weed" (headies in your example)

to me true med weed is actually grown to be higher in cbd or other canabinoids and thc is a second thought, but thats just a personal definition.
/the thc does aid these effects(entourage effect), but the high is not as important (and often not really desired)

to get to the point tho, what i look for in pot is potency of course but im also a big fan of flavor
/im always looking for unique taste and smells
/because i grow i can always smoke more if i want to get more stoned

my lady actually prefers less potent pot, less cough and she can moderate her high better
personally my smoking depends on mood
some days i jsut want to toke, others i want to get high as fk

interested in hearing what others think!

 

[tazz11]

that's funny you give that feed back . the Sativa Abducted hybrid is a very clear mind and you can talk normally and think clearly .. but the effects are dose related if you smoke to much your going night night .lol


but the goal was to keep the smooth taste and potency but let the smoker chose how much and when ..


good feed back guys ...


so far the problem is remembering any thing after ...

 

[FireIn.TheSky]

"I have been breeding headies for over 25 years and a few med weed strains along the way .."

ive always wondered what is the main difference between "medicinal weed" and just "dank weed" (headies in your example)

I think it's all just end user lingo. "headies" "med grades" is kind of just weed buyer phrases.

Probably basically the same thing.

 

[tazz11]

I think it's all just end user lingo. "headies" "med grades" is kind of just weed buyer phrases.

Probably basically the same thing.

headies is the best of the best where I come from ..breeders stash is not sold ...then there is dro and green , med weed here is not sold at street level ...I am not a seller so I don't care about cost or sales ...


thanks for the input ,and I do agree some what in the over all marketing hype .. dose not make it better weed . what I do want to know is what med weeds do work and why do you think so ...?


I do agree with you about sales lingo .. a lot of that comes from the seed banks ...not bad or good . just hype ...

 

[Arf]

I think it's all just end user lingo. "headies" "med grades" is kind of just weed buyer phrases.

Probably basically the same thing.

I agree, the "med" term is thrown about ad nauseam on forums when people want to justify their growing and consumption.

Most cannabis consumption can be classified as medical, it can be for a mood change, like anti-depressants, it can be as a pain killer, a tranquilizer, or a raft of other uses. About the only non "med" reason for consumption, is people doing it out of peer pressure.

So if you are looking for a medical strain, you need to describe the medical condition you are trying to treat.

 

[kaochiu]

When someone has a headache and takes an aspirin, the pack says about the components and measures, whereas a pack of seeds is just a vague promise. I mean, meds are when it's already grown and dried and tried and lab tested. Meantime, the search includes every cannabinoid combo for every particular condition, so all seed is potentally medical.
That said, i remember a herijuana that made me fall sleep as quick as anesthesia (for pain?), and a LP#1 that wasn't too strong but left an overall feeling of wellbeing with the right touch of euphoria,(for deppression?) or a skunk#1 that left people speechless (for treating verborrhea?) and also a big fat chronic that was as good as smoking plain hemp (for placebo?)

 

[tazz11]

your statement Kaochiu is interesting , and I do agree . one of the things we are testing and have been from the start is the over all harvest time . early bud vs normal and late harvest times and then curing stages .


so you do bring up a good point ...seeds are a reflection of a given strain base .. what it says it dose is not the same for all that grow it and use it ...


good point ...the fact we don't yet know very much about cannabinoids and what they do ...


"you need to describe the medical condition you are trying to treat."


my goal is simple . find or create a strain or a set of strains to treat 80-90% of all cancer , not a cure but help if not slow the forward development of the cancer it self ..a lot of strains will make a person smile but the strain has to be far more with cancer as the focus ...


that's only my goal and not the over all goal of this topic ...


and yes getting high is not my goal as a med weed .. the Abducted . has a clear mind and lets you talk between friends with a very deep inner body high . a out of body type effect . with a no upper end effect ...


I am relating to Abducted only because it is my focus med weed project , I am not trying to hype Abducted strains ..for sale if it ever is sold . the point is I don't want to make this topic about one strain or another .. its about breeding a med weed strain and or curing the product for isolated effect ..


what you all get from a med weed is far more value to a breeder then you would think ...

 

[tazz11]

one of the reasons I wanted to make this topic ,


I watch people I care about pass from cancer ...its not fun and it dose what it wants to ...it can run the list or jump ahead with out any see able reason ...I can not even describe this type of death to you with out people getting upset .. my point is some of my friends say my strains are working ..for them ...now my point is , if it is why and what are the limits and how much do they help .. one person will drive 3 states away for my strains .. one will smoke only my strain . and says he has little to no effect from other strains .. so why is these strain working for those few ..


in fact they are 80-90 % potency level not the strongest strains out there ...one of the few said they don't have to be the strongest .. cancer makes some people weak and they cant handle to much potency ...some say they want to be clear headed .


but need a strain that they can sleep if needed ...


I am not a doctor and I don't plain to treat people .. I hope to develop a few strains that lets them make the choices for them self's ,


I can get help if I need it but I am only one old school breeder .. the need for my strains is beyond my abilities to produce at the amounts needed ...


its hard to tell a good friend you don't have any , I go with out often I tell them I need to keep a low tolerance, but the truth is they need it more then I do ...after watching someone die of cancer I willingly go with out ...


maybe I can buy them some time till I can find a way around it ...

 

[Arf]

Geez, I wouldn't be supplying Cannabis to someone that is being treated for cancer without seeking medical advice first, that would be irresponsible.

 

[bombadil.360]

"med weed strains"

 

[Lester Beans]

Any and all weed is med weed. There is no difference in a strain that someone labeled medicinal and so guy growing the same strain to get lifted on the weekends.

More importantly is the makeup of a strain and what medical condition it is good for.

 

[tazz11]

Geez, I wouldn't be supplying Cannabis to someone that is being treated for cancer without seeking medical advice first, that would be irresponsible.

I agree , so how do you know their going to get cancer before they do ...?


the point is if weed can help slow cancer then it has to be at the early stages ...


we are all going to die one way or another ...but lowing the odds of dyeing of cancer would be a worthy goal ....

 

[tazz11]

Any and all weed is med weed. There is no difference in a strain that someone labeled medicinal and so guy growing the same strain to get lifted on the weekends.

More importantly is the makeup of a strain and what medical condition it is good for.

"Any and all weed is med weed. "


I don't know if I fully agree with that point of view ..I know many CBD strains that have no high .. that would make them sh**y weed for a party ...lol


but yes I do under stand your reply ,poor labeling is a little different then breeding a strain for a given effect...so dose the poll judge the strains as a over sight or do the user give feed back to the qualities of the med weeds they use ..?


I don't agree with everything and every reply . but your reply is value able to the out come ..because this post is not about me . its food for breeders that want to try to improve med weed strains and to give them some good feed back ..from those that use the strains no matter what they use them for .. the over all insight I hope will be of value to us as well as all of you out there .

 

[jackel]

there is no secret "Med Weed".. someone with ur 25 yrs of experience should know that.
every strain has its own characteristics and pros/cons. what is "Medically appropriate" for person A, isn't always for person B. So there isn't a formula or strain to determine whether or not it is medical.
A prime example of that is here http://www.marijuanagrowershq.com/category/strain-review/
If you read the reviewers comments, you will see that peoples own thoughts before hand will effect their judgements. There has even been times where a person will say "strain A did nothing for my ailment, only strain B works for me." and later on, you give them strain B without them knowing it, and they say "this strain did nothing for me." even tho its the strain they said works for them.
So my point is, there is no such thing as med weed. its all medical if it works for you. it is impossible to breed a specific "MED" strain because of those factors.

 

[tazz11]

that's why blind test studies are done ...

 

[MJPassion]

If you're breeding for SMOKE, as implied by your very first post in the thread, you're breeding for an extremely limited medical value.

Most weed, to be used as medicine for physical ailments, needs to be consumed using another method such as eating it.

 

[FireIn.TheSky]

Geez, I wouldn't be supplying Cannabis to someone that is being treated for cancer without seeking medical advice first, that would be irresponsible.

Why would it be irresponisbile? MJ is non reactive, non lethal, there is no know LD-50 for cannabis, meaning you could eat or smoke a tractor trailer full and not die.

Now chemo therapy drugs and most perscription drugs in general on the other hand are highly toxic and could be potentially lethal.

Providing cannabis to a cancer patient might make them feel a little better, keep their food down and otherwise might put a smile on their face, which in a way would be the best medicine.

 

[Imsostonedagain]

Tazz, I believe you are making a mistake assuming that to be medical, it has to be high CBD. Thats simply not the case. For instance, some people get relief from depression from smoking strains that are really high THC and VERY low CBD. So, equating CBD with "medical" is not exactly true. I realize there are many benefits to CBD, but thats not a requirement for strains to be considered "medical" and sometimes its definitely an unwanted component of medical strains. Just a thought.