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breeding for northern outdoors, the perfect cross?

nordsman

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Would like to make a nice f1 hybrid for the brutal north conditions. Was thinking of breeding Ace's erdpurt to the kiwi seeds 2 pounder. Was thinking this is a brilliant hybrid cross for outdoors in the north outdoors...

Any thoughts? Or got some other crosses for the north?
 

Shooters

Active member
How far north are we talking? Our Canadian brothers have some good strains already bred for northern growing you might check with some of those vendors.

For myself though I took a heavy producing bagseed strain and mated that to some of Aces' gear to breed a potent producer for my area of rain forest but I like doing things the hard way it seems.

I'm also using Sams' skunk 1 to shorten the flowering of the zamaldelica, plus the structure of the skunk plant is really strong and handles both wind and rain fairly well, mush better then my NevSis does. That one is more of a indoor line that would do well scrogged. However my breeding centers around outdoor/greenhouse large plant and resin production then getting nice tight buds for indoors.

HTH and welcome to ICMag.
 

nordsman

Member
50 north..Manitoba like...Last frost mid June...first frost early Sept...high humid..cold nights...

Most the Canadian stuff is all coastal I thought..makes a huge differance
 

nordsman

Member
I'm just about doomed to autoflowers only...was thinking these two high latitude outdoor strain would let me breed auto without any Rudy in them..these 2 strains also have high mold resistance which I need..and some cold resistance...
Sure would make some big Purdy flowers I think anyway.

Along with having fresh f1 crosses breed in location should provide vigor and some reliability I thought as I can choose the best ones of the lot to use
 

MJPassion

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Maybe Hybrids From Hell can help ya.

If you are able to start plants indoors in order to put them outside later, maybe an extended daylength could help ya. Keep indoors under 18-20 hrs of light and put out just after the summer solstice when the days begin to shorten. I don't think equatorial varieties would be suitable for this method, however.

Just a couple ideas...

Canadian breed strains, whether bread on the coast or not, would be a good start simply because they're already acclimated to the lattitude.

Your definitely NOT doomed to ruderalis types. Not sure but a Lebanese may be right up your alley just for their early trigger to flower.

There's tons of choices for ya. Take some time and look around then ask questions. It's all about due diligence.
 

nordsman

Member
Thanks for the input

As I think about it..I may just try the erdpurt strait as is..pick up say 40 beans to play with...if I could find one female that vedges under 24 but will flower at about 16hr I'll have struck Canadian gold...that mother and clones be near priceless.

What you guys think of that strategy?
 

nordsman

Member
Cool now to think about just how to go about finding that one...sounds like a nice winter project...first I'll have to find ones that will hold vedge and not autoflower under 24....then take clones and see which ones flower under 16 hours...that should give me clones that start flowering about mid July

Does this sound about right?
 

Highcountry

Active member
Iranian autoflower will stay in veg on 24hrs and flower with 20 or less hours light. I'm at lat. 50 and they flower thru the solstice.
 

nordsman

Member
That Iranian auto sounds interesting. How long you been working with that?

I noticed flash by stitch has a doctor shiva high himilays super auto..should be super hardy for cold and mold...but it's a little long on flower..thinking about taking that and crossing it to a faster hardy afghani type autoflower ...that might give me a chance to start a month early in 1 gallon pots..sex them then put them out doors. And make use of the full season
 

Namgorf

Member
Timewarp is an early flowering and mold resistant strain developed exclusively outdoors at the 49th parallel.
 

nordsman

Member
This time warp sounds and looks solid...it's a must on my list I think

Might have to cross erdpurt with time warp...I just have a thing for f1 hybrids..

Damn erdpurt and time warp now that's a perfect outdoor cross....I'm sold. Going to pollinate a half dozen timewarps next summer with erdpurt

Let Jah be praised
 

nordsman

Member
Might just make this my winter project ..
Start seeds under 24 and drop 1 hour each week and breed the best of the fastest flowering ones of each.
And be ready for the summer.

Pretty excited for the cross.. 2 very different strains of far north outdoor breed hardy resistant strains . should make some Wiley variable phenos and some hybrid vigor
 

gorilla ganja

Well-known member
Might just make this my winter project ..
Start seeds under 24 and drop 1 hour each week and breed the best of the fastest flowering ones of each.
And be ready for the summer.

Pretty excited for the cross.. 2 very different strains of far north outdoor breed hardy resistant strains . should make some Wiley variable phenos and some hybrid vigor

That sounds like a good plan, I would start them under light hrs closer to what you will have outdoors Maybe 18-19 hrs. then drop from there. best of luck. please update with results.
Cheers GG
 

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