breeders should be lab testing their gear and posting it

[Mystic Funk]

Anyone that is buying their strains based on THC content probably doesn't know much about good weed.

I take all of those numbers with a grain of salt, aside from maybe looking for high CBD content for medicinal purposes I think most of those numbers are irrelevant to picking the best smoking herb.

I also don't necessarily trust how the tests were performed, I think there is still a lot of room to skew the results or just outright lie. The best weed is the one you smoke and really like, no test lab test will tell you if it will click with your brain.

Also, it could be a 1 in a million phenotype that is tested, when you look at the grand scheme of things it just becomes ridiculous, no test can cover the millions of possibilities and variables. Growing skills will play a huge part in the end users result, so your results may not be anywhere near theirs.

We really need to start buying up strains from diverse genetic backgrounds, we are not moving forward if all we are doing is breeding the same old to the same old piling up the same family of strains over and over again. We are moving sideways not forward at that point.

95% of what I see when I look thru seedbanks is the same thing over and over, every seed maker is basically doing the same thing as the other guy. How many more OG, chem, cookies, glue etc... crosses do we need, yes they may have piles of resin but the highs are generic and flat..

Maybe I am just a weirdo, but my interest in these type of strains is waning.

your not a weirdo. we are in the same boat on this one.
and that's the reason I mostly breed with landrace varieties
not to say won't keep some og, chem, bubba, but that's not the focal point of my breeding projects.

and I should note that i'm working with some high cbd's and I will have those tested.

-mystic

 

[stoned-trout]

I did not say I was only interested in thc ..don't twist my words..i clearly stated full analysis...yeehaw...PCL WILL EVEN PICK UP SAMPLES IN SAN DIEGO with a days notice....

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

i,m with you stoned -trout . as long as corruption and manipulation can stay out of the results . at least its a basic gauge of what the strains potential is .

 

[Limeygreen]

I have a feeling that monsanto would not be able to patent the terp profiles, it is from a living plant without a novel trait which is impossible to patent, if they did in a lab and patented a lab produced profile sure but not a living plant especially if they do not hold the original genetics.

 

[Weird]

I read an article online recently and it was about an interview with a guy who ran a testing lab in the US, and he said the growers and breeders are constantly trying to get higher and higher THC percentage weed, but he said they are missing out on a significant part of the market who don't want 30% thc weed, they want something a lot less potent.

These are the people who will have a few puffs at night after the kids are put to bed, they don't want to and cant afford with their responsibilities to get "wasted" or "blunted".
They just want some mild weed to chill out in the evening, while still retaining all their faculties.

It's analogous with alcohol; not everyone who drinks alcohol wants to drink neat spirits and get drunk, some people just want a glass of wine with their dinner and maybe one afterwards as they watch tv, or maybe a few beers as they watch sporty on tv on the weekend.

This is because most people are looking to capitalize on the plant first, all the other benefits are "happy accidents".

 

[mack 10]

I heard that Monsanto has been buying up many of the labs, even the small ones. Once a new terpene profile shows up, they patent (trademark?) that terpene profile so it no longer belongs to the breeder.... Breeders will have to get their own testing machines.... Sucks!

So sneaky. Dam
Terp thief's.

 

[shishkaboy]

Can any person legally able to grow send in specimens for testing? Is there a good home test?

If I had my own breeding company I would just sell the legitimacy of my parent stock.

I have these clones and prove it with pics.

Then this is what these seeds are. I don't have all this stuff. But...

Chem D x The White

Pre 98 Bubba x Loompa's Headband

Ghost OG x Pure Kush

I would not make up any freakin names either. The name would be the cross lineage.

I guarantee these seeds were made by crossing X x Z. Your results may vary but this is the cross.

I would buy seeds from those people. I don't care if they tested them except for germination. The fun is looking and smoking. The average guy can't get a loompa's headband. Hell well connected people can't get it. Most would buys seeds for the sole reason of knowing for sure it is involved in the cross. I would buy them and start growing them. If nothing good came of them I at least had real genetics to play with and got better smoke than was going through my hole in the wall town.

Win Win for sure.

Prove what your parent stock is. Name is the cross. No testing needed.

I agree with who said if they had something that consistently tested super duper offspring to offspring, seed to seed, they would be testing and showing it all over.

I also agree it isn't all high whatever category either. It can be mild thc but super quality buzz.

I could see there being an issue with some of the more rarer cuts vs their "fakes".

I read a story about how a testing service was trying to map out the terp profile for blue dream but received like 9 different profiles.

I think they came to the conclusion that the one with the most entries was the "real blue dream", ifrc.

But what about a cut like sour diesel or thin mint cookies where there are prolly more "fakes" than realios and even fewer people that could tell the difference?

How would the lab know what the thin mint profile is if they have to be told what the thin mint is?

Who would get to benchmark the standards for any specific cultivar?

Throw in the fact that there is money to be made by selling "elite seeds" = corrupt system.

Without full blown legalization and the rights to use this plant as any adult individual sees fit, then we are going to need a governing body, imvho.

 

[MostlyMe]

I'm skeptical. Even when tests would be performed by an independent organisation using a standardized procedure, what exactly would it tell? That if you're lucky and grow twenty females, you might get one that's crazy potent? That's not going to help the typical small time grower. I'd rather have breeders specify the most common pheno's and their ratios in a test grow, instead of describing the winner you're supposed to look for. And I don't believe only master growers could get it... it's all genetics, and as long as you provide some basic care your plant is gonna do what it's genes tell it to do. Growing weed is really easy!

 

[Oakhills]

The thing is that most breeders do not produce an In Bread Line (IBL) of seeds anymore. They take a couple of dank varieties of polyhybrids and cross them. Some asked what's the difference between Bodhi and TGA? Bodhi has created and found a male the suits his breeding program, where TGA does not.

Most of Bodhi's offspring are similar in terms of F1 hybrids. There are a range of several different pheno types from his F1 beans. Same with TGA's, but TGA has 5 times the variance of Bodhi I have found.

It would be very difficult to say that the seeds produced will give one of the many profiles that was labeled for the offspring.

That is why we pheno-hunt. We don't take our phenos to the labs for testing because we don't need to (and because of Monsanto). We test them ourselves dammit!

Anyway, it is nice to have the variety from F1 hybrids, but at the same time it is nice to monocrop from seeds. Any Breeders here making IBL's or at least trying besides myself?