breeders should be lab testing their gear and posting it

[stoned-trout]

I think its time for all breeders to have their strains tested and post the results....put up or shut up....with the relatively cheap lab testing available I think its time we know the lab testing results...we should know thc,cbd ,terps ect...if I can have it done why cant the breeders???? I am tired of hype and bunk strains....yeehaw..if I am paying a hundred + for 10 seeds I would like to know...

 

[HatchBrew]

Yup yup.
At a breeders scale, they'd be able to pull a bulk discount on testing too.

Would it be an average over a seed pack, 20 or 100 plants for total cannabinoid presence?

That be nice to see, "yes these are the terps you can expect," not some interns waxing-poetics on what he/she thinks is happening.

 

[Oakhills]

I heard that Monsanto has been buying up many of the labs, even the small ones. Once a new terpene profile shows up, they patent (trademark?) that terpene profile so it no longer belongs to the breeder.... Breeders will have to get their own testing machines.... Sucks!

 

[stoned-trout]

I think one pack would be acceptable as that's what most people buy I would guess....yeehaw

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

Anyone that is buying their strains based on THC content probably doesn't know much about good weed.

I take all of those numbers with a grain of salt, aside from maybe looking for high CBD content for medicinal purposes I think most of those numbers are irrelevant to picking the best smoking herb.

I also don't necessarily trust how the tests were performed, I think there is still a lot of room to skew the results or just outright lie. The best weed is the one you smoke and really like, no test lab test will tell you if it will click with your brain.

Also, it could be a 1 in a million phenotype that is tested, when you look at the grand scheme of things it just becomes ridiculous, no test can cover the millions of possibilities and variables. Growing skills will play a huge part in the end users result, so your results may not be anywhere near theirs.

We really need to start buying up strains from diverse genetic backgrounds, we are not moving forward if all we are doing is breeding the same old to the same old piling up the same family of strains over and over again. We are moving sideways not forward at that point.

95% of what I see when I look thru seedbanks is the same thing over and over, every seed maker is basically doing the same thing as the other guy. How many more OG, chem, cookies, glue etc... crosses do we need, yes they may have piles of resin but the highs are generic and flat..

Maybe I am just a weirdo, but my interest in these type of strains is waning.

 

[Weird]

and the stuff done by testers so customers can see what can be expected in the field

 

[MJPassion]

I think testing should be done as well.
However,
Some folks just cant grow shit, have black thumbs, and expect their plants to perform as if they were in a 90 yr old master gardeners hands. Then they join a forum and make a post or few slinging shit all over a breeder because the one seed they planted was nothing like the clone only mother.

Individual seed varieties are like children from the same mother & father.
They look a lot alike but every single one has its own lil quirks & nuances that separate them from being clones of one another.

 

[Bradley_Danks]

Gotta standardize testing first

 

[Weird]

Gotta standardize testing first

I always think to myself if any of them where as scientific as they claim they would have been testing them already to gauge the efficiency of their efforts, regardless of standardization.

Wouldn't doubt some claim they already do.

 

[sdd420]

Gotta standardize testing first

I'll standardize it. Send all samples to me and I will get back to you thanks

 

[Mystic Funk]

I think its time for all breeders to have their strains tested and post the results....put up or shut up....with the relatively cheap lab testing available I think its time we know the lab testing results...we should know thc,cbd ,terps ect...if I can have it done why cant the breeders???? I am tired of hype and bunk strains....yeehaw..if I am paying a hundred + for 10 seeds I would like to know...

I agree with you if the breeder is claiming that their strain is the best or super high in something like thc cbd thcv.etc..... but I'm a small time breeder that breeds for effect and not the percentage of something. if the high sucks then I don't continue to breed with it... I don't care how much thc is in it. I'm not going for high numbers. like 30% thc hahaha! what a joke.

what i'm looking for is a powerful high but not too racy with a clean finish and I don't think you can test for that. there are hundreds of cannabinoids that science has no idea what they do..

so for me breeding is more of an art.

great thread! keep it going!

yeeeehaaaw! -mystic

 

[~SpacedCWBY~]

Back in 2004 when I was first on ic they had breeders forums. Each company would sometimes release test packs to members who agreed to log their grows on their forum. Was a good system. It did not guarantee lab results as testing back then was expensive and not widely available as it is now. Not sure why ic changed up their forum structure, I'm assuming it was due to the high cost of running the site, but I liked to see the results people were getting from the various seed packs.

 

[stoned-trout]

I realize thc aint all .. which is why I would like to know cbd and the rest too.... and TERPS as terps have an interraction with thc I believe and some peeps like certain terps and would be able to narrow it down...yeehaw...I think testing of just one pack would be fine as if I cant find a keeper in a pack you suck at breeding and I think a lot of people buy single packs when purchasing 100$ + strains ...

 

[stoned-trout]

if your getting 100$ plus per pack of ten seeds you can afford to test your gear...yeehaw..anything used as medicine should be tested..end of story

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

Back in 2004 when I was first on ic they had breeders forums. Each company would sometimes release test packs to members who agreed to log their grows on their forum. Was a good system. It did not guarantee lab results as testing back then was expensive and not widely available as it is now. Not sure why ic changed up their forum structure, I'm assuming it was due to the high cost of running the site, but I liked to see the results people were getting from the various seed packs.

Too many people take the seeds and run. Back when IC was much different, I think the constant give away of free seeds really attracted a lot of people coming here just for the free stuff, they abused the system then the system collapsed.

 

[MJPassion]

if your getting 100$ plus per pack of ten seeds you can afford to test your gear...yeehaw..anything used as medicine should be tested..end of story

I'd go as far as saying if your getting $5 or more per seed...
You can afford to test.

 

[Weird]

I always think to myself if any of them where as scientific as they claim they would have been testing them already to gauge the efficiency of their efforts, regardless of standardization.

Wouldn't doubt some claim they already do.

yeah, but those guys don't post test results, do they?

 

[iTarzan]

Can any person legally able to grow send in specimens for testing? Is there a good home test?

If I had my own breeding company I would just sell the legitimacy of my parent stock.

I have these clones and prove it with pics.

Then this is what these seeds are. I don't have all this stuff. But...

Chem D x The White

Pre 98 Bubba x Loompa's Headband

Ghost OG x Pure Kush

I would not make up any freakin names either. The name would be the cross lineage.

I guarantee these seeds were made by crossing X x Z. Your results may vary but this is the cross.

I would buy seeds from those people. I don't care if they tested them except for germination. The fun is looking and smoking. The average guy can't get a loompa's headband. Hell well connected people can't get it. Most would buys seeds for the sole reason of knowing for sure it is involved in the cross. I would buy them and start growing them. If nothing good came of them I at least had real genetics to play with and got better smoke than was going through my hole in the wall town.

Win Win for sure.

Prove what your parent stock is. Name is the cross. No testing needed.

I agree with who said if they had something that consistently tested super duper offspring to offspring, seed to seed, they would be testing and showing it all over.

I also agree it isn't all high whatever category either. It can be mild thc but super quality buzz.

 

[Easy7]

There are a lot of variations in terps and cannabinoids from seed to seed and grow to grow. Testing is a marketing tool, to promote or otherwise influence a choice.

 

[stoned-trout]

anyone can lab test ..here in cali you drop it off and they post it on your account online for ya...they wont allow mailed samples due to feds not recognizing med mj and could get in deep shit..PCL has drivers that will come pick up samples in san diego...and for the last time I am not just concerned with THC.... I also believe cbd counter acts thc so if your strain has say 24 % thc and 4 % cbd its more like 20% thc effects.....yeehaw ..yes there is a lot more than thc involved....