What's new
  • ICMag with help from Landrace Warden and The Vault is running a NEW contest in November! You can check it here. Prizes are seeds & forum premium access. Come join in!

Brass Capsules

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Edit: I misread the teaspoon as tablespoon.

Have you had experience with the 1 gram hash to 1 tablespoon coconut oil rate? Its about 5 times less, but its still going to be strong enough?

Do you have experience with this lower rate?

32 oz Liquid lecithin coming in the mail tomorrow. Going to do a run tomorrow if I have time. At least this weekend. Smoking one for you! :smoke:
 
Last edited:

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Ate a serving of the sunflower lecithin powder as a dietary suppliment. Tastes good and feel healthy. Supports brain function among other health benfits!

Will try the liquid sunflower lecithin to see how it compares. Wanted to see, have you tried that in the capsules before?
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
20 minutes into decarbing 3 gram kief, doesn't smell too strong yet.

The rate looks good for lecithin. They recommend a rate of 1/16 the coconut oil. 1 tablespoon lecithin to 1 cup coconut oil.


Ratio for Lecithin in Cannabis Oil​

ratio of lecithin in cannabis oil


This part’s easy…for every cup of oil you use, use 1 Tablespoon of Sunflower Lecithin granules or liquid.

For example…

1 Cup Coconut Oil

1 Tablespoon Sunflower Lecithin

7-14 Grams Cannabis Trim or Dried Buds


You can incorporate lecithin into a Cannabis coconut oil recipe or the hash butter method.
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Now it smells good, but not too big of a deal. 15 grams would smell more of course.

Will take my first dose tomorrow. I will start with 1 drop since your wife said it was kind of strong. Will have 2 drops, then after 120 minutes take another 2 if needed.
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Just out of the freezer, and back to heating at 220F for 20 minutes. Will have to transfer after heated into the tapered glass dish which will fit on the warmer. Will be help keep it contained easier so the dropper can work.
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Very little smell doing a small 3 gram batch. I bet if it were 15 grams it would smell more.

The oil smelled good! Something powerful!
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
How do you store your capsules? Do you keep them in the refrigerator?

Do you use desiccant packs?

Getting up early and trying them out. About to make the capsules. Will make a bunch of 2 drop capsules and a few that are 4 drops.
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Holy smokes I just licked the spoon. Going to sleep well tonight! This is danker than dank!
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Glad I wiped off the spoon. I licked it and got an instant hit as a sublingual. I think it could be diluted with alcohol and more coconut oil and call it a tincture. Not sure.

I am really sensitive. Hope these aren't too strong! I think it will be about right.

I have a dropper with mL measurements on it. I was able to determine 0.5 mL had 24 drops, I think thats the quantity the size 0 capsules hold. So going from there 12 drops is half a capsule, 6 drops is a quarter capsule.

If I take 3 of the 4 drop capsules, it equals a half capsule, or take 6 and it equals 1 capsule.

This mix is already a little more dilute. I mixed 3 grams kief into 1 tablespoon (3 teaspoons) coconut oil. Your batch using 3 tablespoons (9 teaspoon) oil to 15 grams is 0.6 teaspoon per gram kief. Badkat's recipe called for 2.5 teaspoons for 5 grams, which is equal to 0.5 teaspoons per gram.

Made a bunch of capsules all with 4 drops each. Maybe have 50 more or less.

I noticed you can have a drop with less sludge in it. Make sure to stir it up with the dropper before drawing it up into it. Also when using just a couple drops for low dose, squeeze out the first drop because sometimes that has less sludge in it. Want to have it mixed up well.

Put the rest of the oil covered in the glass dish in the refridgerator for a few days to see how big I want the doses to be.
 

BrassNwood

Well-known member
Veteran
20 minutes into decarbing 3 gram kief, doesn't smell too strong yet.

The rate looks good for lecithin. They recommend a rate of 1/16 the coconut oil. 1 tablespoon lecithin to 1 cup coconut oil.


Ratio for Lecithin in Cannabis Oil​

ratio of lecithin in cannabis oil


This part’s easy…for every cup of oil you use, use 1 Tablespoon of Sunflower Lecithin granules or liquid.

For example…

1 Cup Coconut Oil

1 Tablespoon Sunflower Lecithin

7-14 Grams Cannabis Trim or Dried Buds


You can incorporate lecithin into a Cannabis coconut oil recipe or the hash butter method.
This is far too low a ratio for true "Liposomal Encapsulation" in my experience. I've got over 10 years of daily use of lecithin enhanced oils and most of these people are parroting info they've read and are NOT firsthand users I'll guarantee you this.

BadKat goes as high as 50% lecithin to oil.


1 Part FECO
2 Parts Lecithin Granules ( @ 23%+/- phosphatidyl choline)
2 Parts Coconut Oil
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
When do you stir it up? I stirred it a little bit to get the kief to mix with the oil before cooking at 220 for 20 minutes. Then once it was frozen and cooked a second time I stirred it up a lot.

The post earlier, I shared a website that said they recommend a ratio of 1 tablespoon lecithin to 1 cup coconut oil.

I put about 0.75 to 1 teaspoon lecithin in the mix using 1 tablespoon coconut oil, so it was at about a 1/3 rate. Should be adequate amount of lecithin.

Want them to be more potent.

I used to smoke a lot, then started having issues with harvest, and I took a break from smoking much for about 2-3 years because harvest was so poor.

I use cannabis as therapy, always have, and used to smoke a whole pipe at once before the long break. So I think I am looking for a higher dose.

Also started with the early harvest which is a little weaker flower.

The flower was strong enough to smoke and have a good effect, so its not much less. Just have to dial it in.
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Yes, I'm just a bit more on the sloppy side and it really makes little if any change in the capsule strength.



The only time food seems to make a difference is at holidays when I'm tempted for a 2nd heaping plate of food and 2 or 3 pieces of cake and pie. That is a disaster with an all to sudden food slam. I don't know if it's the demand of blood to my stomach that causes the near blackout and total body sweat and collapse, I suffer. Feels like too much THC and not blood loss. In either event it's sudden and completely debilitating for an hour and more.

I've learned to avoid that by skipping either that day's capsule dose or being very strict with my appetite and limiting myself to a normal small meal.

I'm only at 50% rate of Badkat's recipe too. I am 40% more dilute than yours. I don't want to hallucinate, but maybe it needs to be more potent to be taken up effectively and liposome encapsulated.

About to take 2 more caps in 15 minutes to make it 0.6 Brass Cap over a 3 hour period.

Take 5mg
Wait 2 hours
If not stoned
Take 10mg more
Wait 2 additional hours
If not stoned
Take 20mg more
Wait
if not
Take 40mg more..
Continue as needed

This is usually how I advise new users to find the dose required. Start early and plan on wasting the entire day. Having a babysitter is a good idea as it can get interesting when it finally does work.

I should have had the equivalent of a Brass capsule, but it was taken over a duration of 5 hours. I took 10 capsules of 4 drops which was 40 drops, but its at half the rate of the Badkat recipe. Will take 4 more with lunch and see how that does. Should be equivalent to 8 drops of the Badkat recipe which equals about

So I took 2 capsules of 4 drops each at 50% dilution so it was equal to about 4 drops badkat recipe = 12 mg.

The hash has a little green in it but it is dense and seems to be mostly trichomes.


2:45 pm took 4 capsules. I guess I could take 6 at 4:20, but thats getting pretty late. Will take 4 tomorrow morning. and wait a couple hours and take 6 capsules since I have to work. Have to get it dialed in.

Still have some capsules to fill with the leftover mix. Will fill them halfway with 10- 12 drops to make it easier to dose larger quantities. That way it simplifies it. Would that be the best way to use this dilute mix?
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
I am getting some effect though, I noticed after I took a toke that it was more effective than normal since my system had cannabinoids from the capsules.

Sounds like a plan. This is why I've made the same exact recipe for years. I know to an exact what the ratio works out to per drop.


I tought i saw a puddy tat. ...... LOL Nice to see you "Old Friend"



A toke or two will boot the edible in the ass fairly well for a couple of hours.

At least if it does boost the tokes, its worth it to keep the medicine going. Just have to find the sweet spot. Will make your 15 gram to 3 tablespoons rate next time w/ 5 grams and a tablespoon similar to what I did with the 3 grams yesterday and a tablespoon.

Little more dilute gives it a safety factor. I want to try it as a sublingual when I fill some time too.

Do you think you could mix the capsule rate into alcohol to make a tincture or does that not work as well as an alcohol-extracted RSO?

Hey, as long as I'm not puking all day with the spins, I'd say it was a success. May try 7 capsules in a little bit to see how it does. Taking it at 4:20 PM.

That should be 42 mg if each capsule is worth 6 mg THC with 4 drops of 1.5 mg/drop.

Looked at the kief jars, this one I think is the most green out of the 3 with a little bit of plant material contamination. I was experimenting doing the dry ice hash for different lengths of time, and also I forgot to shake the collander to sift out powder plant material before re-adding partially used dry ice and bud chunks.

Will use the better kief next time I do a batch and will use 1 tbsp coconut oil and half tsp lechithin per 5 grams kief.

Will just fill some capsules tonight with the current solution. 4 wasn't enough.

Going to go out to the farm, so hopefully I don't get caught out there with a crazy buzz. Or maybe that will make my day.... Will go home when its safe.. :smoke: :smoke:
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
This is far too low a ratio for true "Liposomal Encapsulation" in my experience. I've got over 10 years of daily use of lecithin enhanced oils and most of these people are parroting info they've read and are NOT firsthand users I'll guarantee you this.

BadKat goes as high as 50% lecithin to oil.


1 Part FECO
2 Parts Lecithin Granules ( @ 23%+/- phosphatidyl choline)
2 Parts Coconut Oil
I guess this is an FECO (full extract cannabis oil). Thanks for the link!
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Do you keep the filled capsules in the refrigerator?

Just dropped the last 7 of the day. Will fill the rest this evening. could even fill some Size 00 capsules, would be a good time to use them up on a dilute mix.

I can taste it when I burp. Will let you know.
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
- Coconut Oil, 2.5 tsp- organic and mechanically extracted are good, naturally
heat-deodorized is ok. I recommend the brands 'Now', and 'Garden of Life'.
(Remember, if a single dose turns out much too strong for you, you can dilute it
further with extra coconut oil until you achieve the desired effect. There is no rush
so feel free to fill one capsule, try it before filling the rest, and see if changes are
needed. These start out strong. Some of you will require less product per-cap.)
 

BrassNwood

Well-known member
Veteran
Do you keep the filled capsules in the refrigerator?

Just dropped the last 7 of the day. Will fill the rest this evening. could even fill some Size 00 capsules, would be a good time to use them up on a dilute mix.

I can taste it when I burp. Will let you know.

I do keep the large jar of capsules stored in the fridge to help slow the oil aging.
 
Top