Bone Meal vs. Bat Guano for Afternoon Tea

[Badfishy1]

We maybe must stop use animals to feed our plants ?

In Nature these Canna Medical plants live a life without animals.
Only in Pure Nature they stay FINEST.
Alot SUN. Poor nute levels.
This iS actually one of the hardest plants existing.
They have survived without animal poop always.

I’ll be first to admit I’m not an expert in bone and blood meal harvesting. But I’m pretty doubtful the donor animals primary purpose is for the bone and blood meal. Animal by products have been used in agriculture since the beginning of agriculture itself.

 

[Teddybrae]

Spasiba Russki!

we say no Guano because we like Environment. leave bats alone!

Done one mini test.

Took Bone Meal and Blood Meal 1 tea spoon each.
Put this in a cup with 1dl water. Mixed it well with mini latte mixer and let it sit 24h.
The smell is nasty like rotten animals and aliens.
Now i have it bubble in one gallon water. Smell is not so bad now.
Next time i use 50% less Bone and Blood Meal. +50% Guano.

The Guano is fantastic if you grow indoors. This smell nothing.
You need this indoor at atleast 50%

 

[mrghost]

I've listened to some interviews/talks from Elaine Ingham (soil microbiologist).
According to her (and some other highly educated people) the usage of compost teas (especially with guano) could easily increase the wrong kind of bacteria in your mix (e.g. e-coli).

Her tip is using plant based composts and letting water run through (no pressing, no molasses, no guano). This should extract enough humic acid to feed your soil.

I've also heard of some compost tea products (with guano) that had to be pulled of the market.

Bats carry a very diverse variety of bacteria since bats seem to be immune to a lot of bacteria that are harmful to other organisms (this is well known).

Just saying...


IMHO Guano is a good fertilizer but be careful and don't make teas from it.

 

[Illuminate]

Dude guano and pigs could be like that film contaigon.

 

[h.h.]

I've listened to some interviews/talks from Elaine Ingham (soil microbiologist).
According to her (and some other highly educated people) the usage of compost teas (especially with guano) could easily increase the wrong kind of bacteria in your mix (e.g. e-coli).

Her tip is using plant based composts and letting water run through (no pressing, no molasses, no guano). This should extract enough humic acid to feed your soil.

I've also heard of some compost tea products (with guano) that had to be pulled of the market.

Bats carry a very diverse variety of bacteria since bats seem to be immune to a lot of bacteria that are harmful to other organisms (this is well known).

Just saying...


IMHO Guano is a good fertilizer but be careful and don't make teas from it.

There were some flaws in their methods of testing.
I forget exactly what.


I don't use guano because of the environmental impact from harvesting.
I don't need it.
If I did, I still wouldn't use it.
I'd just grow a little less potent product.
That's a decision I made when getting away from chemical fertilizers.
Realizing I was always smoking my best even if at its full potential.
Luckily I found it made no difference.

 

['Boogieman']

I like seabird guano mixed with a little bio-ag tm7. How is seabird guano harvested?

 

[h.h.]

https://www.maximumyield.com/the-goodness-of-guano/2/1334

 

[aridbud]

Dude guano and pigs could be like that film contaigon.

Yep, the reason we use alfalfa, kelp additives. Because we grow for what we intake into the lungs along with numerous patients we serve. Prefer to do organic and semi-clean.

Bird shit leads to a lot of gnarly resp. diseases.

To each their own.

 

[mrghost]

There were some flaws in their methods of testing.
I forget exactly what.


I don't use guano because of the environmental impact from harvesting.
I don't need it.
If I did, I still wouldn't use it.
I'd just grow a little less potent product.
That's a decision I made when getting away from chemical fertilizers.
Realizing I was always smoking my best even if at its full potential.
Luckily I found it made no difference.

Any link to the research? I'd like to read up on that.

I actually got my info from a soil microbiologist (Elaine Ingham) who wrote a really good book on aerated compost teas from a scientific perspective.

I think this video might also explain it a little.

https://youtu.be/qnaxZFDCno8

 

[igrowone]

which invites a re-discussion of bone meal a bit
bone meal was sterilized(normally) during its process
not a bad thing when you compare to some other things
also it's not a good vector for lead transmission
the calcium phosphate component of bone is used to render lead into a non toxic bound form in some lead contamination sites

 

[troutman]

Use both. I do.