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Blumat auto watering

BongToke

Member
wow this thread is massive cant read it all,I'm sure my answer is in here somewhere just too lazy to go through 118 pages.

I'm considering switching my setup to coco ,2 gal smart pots and blumats will this combo work?

I usally have 120 plants SOG style, you experts think this will work with with the coco and blumats?

Also roughly how much do these cost per "carrot" getting 120 of them might be costly.

i was thinking of putting my 55 gal rez on a 2 foot stand and having a thru hull at the bottom of the 55 gal drum will this be enough pressure for the blumats to work.

any help is greatly appreciated
 

Kit Kat

Member
ive been using the blumats for a while now i grow in 15l pots and one side of the pot always looks dry does everyone get this with blumats thanks everyone

I saw this with 3.4 gallon airpots, when I pulled some males I noticed about half the pot was relatively dry and had less root mass. Since I was using standard carrots I extended the 3mm line to the very far side of the pot to try and rectify it. This helped some, however during a recent break down there still seemed to be some obviously under watered areas.

The plants seemed fantastic regardless but I was thinking of trying maxis or doubling up next time.
 

joedogsong

Member
I personally do not think that a 55gal res, 2'off the ground, 8mm feed lines to 120 blumats is going to be as low maintenance as you are looking for.

I run 25 Blumats (12 regulars, 13 Maxi's), organic greenhouse, 7 monsters, 55gal res, 40" off the ground, 1/2" mainline, fill res 2X's a week and huge flow reduction as the res drains.
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During the indoor season I run coliseum style, 25 plants, 2gal air-pots, Blumats, pressure reducer, no problem.






Yes, you can do the 120 numbers, BUT, there are so many variables, and any custom number of specific options to cover those variables based on the style of grow you do. If you had a runaway with any of those 120 and were not prepared for it you could destroy a building with the flood, dump all 55 gallons on the floor, ya need overflow protection, floor covering, multiple smaller reservoirs ?

There are a thousand of these questions and ANSWERS in the preceding 158 pages. If you really do 120 plants at once, you know that it takes proper planning.
So read up! Once its dialed in...way cool
 

sunnydog

Drip King
Veteran
I saw this with 3.4 gallon airpots, when I pulled some males I noticed about half the pot was relatively dry and had less root mass. Since I was using standard carrots I extended the 3mm line to the very far side of the pot to try and rectify it. This helped some, however during a recent break down there still seemed to be some obviously under watered areas.

The plants seemed fantastic regardless but I was thinking of trying maxis or doubling up next time.

Dial a bit wetter........Putting the dripper too far away will likely cause run on. Get some slave drippers, see my pic in photo several posts ago.
When you get it just right growth will explode. I lean towards a heavy pot. YMMV
 

BongToke

Member
ye not practical for me with cost of so many blumats if I do less bigger girls its a better idea. Loooks like a tradition watering system would be more cost effective for SOG
 

BongToke

Member
I personally do not think that a 55gal res, 2'off the ground, 8mm feed lines to 120 blumats is going to be as low maintenance as you are looking for.

I run 25 Blumats (12 regulars, 13 Maxi's), organic greenhouse, 7 monsters, 55gal res, 40" off the ground, 1/2" mainline, fill res 2X's a week and huge flow reduction as the res drains.View Image
During the indoor season I run coliseum style, 25 plants, 2gal air-pots, Blumats, pressure reducer, no problem.





Yes, you can do the 120 numbers, BUT, there are so many variables, and any custom number of specific options to cover those variables based on the style of grow you do. If you had a runaway with any of those 120 and were not prepared for it you could destroy a building with the flood, dump all 55 gallons on the floor, ya need overflow protection, floor covering, multiple smaller reservoirs ?

There are a thousand of these questions and ANSWERS in the preceding 158 pages. If you really do 120 plants at once, you know that it takes proper planning.
So read up! Once its dialed in...way cool

Also props on those greenhouse gals If I could do that I'd be in heaven
 
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moodster

where can i get slave drippers from and how do i add them to my setup i only run 4 at a time with maxis and still getting dry spots
 

rives

Inveterate Tinkerer
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For the SOG guys, using one blumat to water ten pots is possible I reckon. Place the carrot in the first pot, then use distribution drippers to imitate conditions in the first pot down the line to nine other pots. I imagine SOG uses same sized pots and plants through, right?

So instead of 120 carrots, buy 12 carrots plus enough distribution drippers to get the other 108 pots. Lemme think... $60 plus... heck most the cost will be in the slave drippers but its cost effective enough..
 
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TribalSeeds

For the SOG guys, using one blumat to water ten pots is possible I reckon. Place the carrot in the first pot, then use distribution drippers to imitate conditions in the first pot down the line to nine other pots. I imagine SOG uses same sized pots and plants through, right?

So instead of 120 carrots, buy 12 carrots plus enough distribution drippers to get the other 108 pots. Lemme think... $60 plus... heck most the cost will be in the slave drippers but its cost effective enough..


This isnt a blumat setup though. The point of the blumat is give the plant the exact amount of water it wants by using the blumat cone as your sensor. You might as well use a much cheaper drip method if youre going to be watering more than 1 pot with a blumat.
 

sunnydog

Drip King
Veteran
For the SOG guys, using one blumat to water ten pots is possible I reckon. Place the carrot in the first pot, then use distribution drippers to imitate conditions in the first pot down the line to nine other pots. I imagine SOG uses same sized pots and plants through, right?

So instead of 120 carrots, buy 12 carrots plus enough distribution drippers to get the other 108 pots. Lemme think... $60 plus... heck most the cost will be in the slave drippers but its cost effective enough..

This will work (theoretically). but I don't think your supposed to use more than 4-5 per unit.
 

lowbrow

New member
It's been 2 days with the blumats. After dousing my girls during setup, they were so droopy and waterlogged that they're just starting to dry out and perk up. A few have the "wet spot" under the drip line, and a few look dry (but aren't when you lift them). I still haven't witnessed the system dripping but I assume everything is still trying to reach a homeostasis of sorts.

I have a question I don't think has been asked yet. Forgive me if it has.

What is the best way to add blumats to my current setup with the pressure reducer? Will the loss of pressure trigger any mishaps downstream if I just crank my shut-off valve and snip the feed line over a bucket, add a T and a blumat, and turn the valve back on? Will any air bubbles be forced thru without issue? Will I need to recalibrate anything?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
 

sunnydog

Drip King
Veteran
What is the best way to add blumats to my current setup with the pressure reducer? Will the loss of pressure trigger any mishaps downstream if I just crank my shut-off valve and snip the feed line over a bucket, add a T and a blumat, and turn the valve back on? Will any air bubbles be forced thru without issue? Will I need to recalibrate anything?

Thanks in advance for any advice!

No problem. Just do it!:woohoo:
 

redbudduckfoot

Active member
Veteran
120 plant sog is easily achieved with 20 blumats. just don't use pots. make a raised bed the size of the light canopy, and do one dripper per 5-6 plantlets. it would work out real well.

RbDf
 

BongToke

Member
I guess with soil beds the options would be to have like homemade organic soil and lava rocks on the bottom for drainage or would you have some sort of holes for drainage?

Last time I did a bed I used lava rock but it didnt work too well.

any suggestions?
 

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