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Blatent election fraud thread

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Actually real liberals like myself reply mostly on facts and rarely unless dealing with true hateful types will rarely use "mean words" however I do stand ready to defend what I have earned in my life and what I believe.But then i'm so far right I'm left. REAL communists in power though seemed to want to do business with me and were willing to sign their names with official Hanoi approval , an example of many is shown here from 20 years ago in Baria Vungtau: https://vietventures.com/Vietnam/Travel_Agreement.asp , imag hopefully: View Image
Seated from the left:
Director Nguyen Thai Binh, Assistant Director Tran Thanh Liem, Marketing Director Nguyen Thi Phuong Dung and Travel Director Nguyen Lan Phoung Of Vung Tau Tourist and President of Worldwide Ventures, Tudo



I think you sound like you are a little confused with what and who liberals are ( true liberals are not socialists! ), the liberals like Thomas Jefferson or the new liberal by name only but not by dead like the aoc's of the world and their ilk. They are neo liberals but call themselves progressives lol I think. They are in reality socialists and the guiding philosophy of socialism is force. NOTHING is voluntary unless of course you parachute into a communist county, start an international business without a license and have the whole communist government of that province AFTER Hanoi gave them the green light to do so and history was made between an off the charts libertarian and the opposite end of the economic and political spectrum, evolved from "are you kidding me?" to " Hanoi approved it,let's all meet at the palace then go to dinner and if we all feel the same way, sign the official agreement.
This is living proof that it CAN be done and without government too.
No way could that have been done if that guy as a "conservative" and real communists who actually fought for it, are now sorry they did so and laugh at American socialist/communist wannabe's especially the ones who think socialist is voluntary lok. But what do I now, I was only the guy who put all this together with the communist government, the very first non governmenr rep to have done so and I fking guarantee the very first libertarian to have done so.
One last thing, communists in communist countries look just like you and me. And most if you get to know them and become friends like I did and have them in my wife's family who studied IN the USSR who I have had many a knock down frag out verbal confrontation at the dinner table in their home in Vietnam with this fellow and as government they live great while the people life like shit.

But give it a shot if you are so bold. I still maintain a business of sorts there after 20 years and when I get off the airplane, plainclothes are waiting for me to take my passport so uniformed guy can stamp it while the other police are carrying my bags to the car, all the while you are in line somewhere and I'm on my wait to my place in Vungtau.

My 2 cents


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I appreciate your free speech while Claiming TO BE A COMMUNIST in your words. Just makes me sad without a conversation
 
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theJointedOne

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So if the evidence finally gets heard, and the rampant fraud is exposed, then what? 4 more years of the demonrats harassing Trump with false impeachments?

There are already real people who are pissed off. BTW, Jan 6th is when the electors bring their bad votes to congress, and some critters are planning to object.

Cruz:

"In 1877, Congress did not ignore those allegations, nor did the media simply dismiss those raising them as radicals trying to undermine democracy. Instead, Congress appointed an Electoral Commission-consisting of five Senators, five House Members, and five Supreme Court Justices-to consider and resolve the disputed returns.

"We should follow that precedent. To wit, Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed.

"Accordingly, we intend to vote on January 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not ‘regularly given' and ‘lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed.

Although "intend" is kinda soft language. "Damn sure will, no matter what BS is thrown before them" is more to my liking.

Thats because he's running in 2024 and realllllly trying hard to appeal to bitchasstrumps base
 
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That qualifies as a character defining post.

It also nearly qualifies as having very little to do with what was written.

Though I would add that AOC and Co. are far from being the neo-libs sold out to Wall St. that HRC, Billy, C, Nancy Pelosi, et al. are.

The label 'progressive' became a fairly broad category where platforms are concerned, in my opinion..
 

WelderDan

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“The Vice President welcomes the efforts of members of the House and Senate to use the authority they have under the law to raise objections and bring forward evidence before the Congress and the American people on January 6th.”

No where did he say he wasn't going to certify the election. He's trying to thread the needle with a mealy mouthed statement in an attempt to save his political future.
 

spadedNfaded

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So if the evidence finally gets heard, and the rampant fraud is exposed, then what? 4 more years of the demonrats harassing Trump with false impeachments?

There are already real people who are pissed off. BTW, Jan 6th is when the electors bring their bad votes to congress, and some critters are planning to object.

Although "intend" is kinda soft language. "Damn sure will, no matter what BS is thrown before them" is more to my liking.

Its been months. There is no "disputed states." States like PA and Georgia have already undergone recounts and audits. They keep finding that Joe Biden won. Why on Earth are they only disputing swing states and the Presidential votes? If they were serious they would do an entire recount of all 50 states and do both Presidential and Down ballot votes. The fact that they're disputing states they lost is a huge tell.

If they were serious, they would agree to "if the Audit takes longer than January 20th Congress will certify Acting President Nancy Pelosi.


They're trying to undermine democracy and reinstall Trump even tho he lost. They STILL think there's fraud after 55+ case loses, with all the recounts and audits? But they'll be A-OK with another one? Are you serious? We should reject this blatant attempt that undermining our Election like the dangerous attempt that it is.
 

redlaser

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From the Congressional Research Service;

“Objections to individual state returns must be made in writing by both a member of the Senate and by a member of the House of Representatives. If an objection meets these requirements, the joint session recesses and the two houses separate and debate the respective question for a maximum of two hours.
The two houses then vote separately to accept or reject the objection. They then reassemble in joint session, and announce the results of their respective votes.

An objection to a states electoral vote must be approved by BOTH houses in order for the contested votes to be excluded.”

How many believe the house will approve if the senate does?
 

spadedNfaded

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Theyre basing this entire sham circus off of allegations.....And allegations they themselves made up.

So....you can make up a bunch of shit, lose a ton of lawsuits, and that's enough to overturn an election? If that fails, the VP can just choose who he wants as the next President?

This is the kind of "democracy" these seditionists like Cruz and these Senators want.

They're not challenging the down ballots FFS, they're challenging nthe Presidential ones! They're trying to throw out the same ballots that they won their seats on. They're not pledging to step down if this goes the way they want it to. This entire process is a sham - a circus.
 

redlaser

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Theyre basing this entire sham circus off of allegations.....And allegations they themselves made up.

So....you can make up a bunch of shit, lose a ton of lawsuits, and that's enough to overturn an election? If that fails, the VP can just choose who he wants as the next President?

This is the kind of "democracy" these seditionists like Cruz and these Senators want.

They're not challenging the down ballots FFS, they're challenging nthe Presidential ones! They're trying to throw out the same ballots that they won their seats on. They're not pledging to step down if this goes the way they want it to. This entire process is a sham - a circus.

Their goalposts must have wheels on them by now. First it’s count all the votes, then recount, then 60+ failed or tossed lawsuits, then Supreme Court, then whatever they think will happen on the sixth. Flynn’s martial law re-election option is probably not ruled out.
The grift needs to fulfill its potential I suppose.
 

armedoldhippy

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“The Vice President welcomes the efforts of members of the House and Senate to use the authority they have under the law to raise objections and bring forward evidence before the Congress and the American people on January 6th.”

No where did he say he wasn't going to certify the election. He's trying to thread the needle with a mealy mouthed statement in an attempt to save his political future.

yeah, and if you notice, he is saying "bring forward EVIDENCE"...which so far they have not done. i think the only evidence they have is that Chump lost & they are in panic mode. if Georgians elect 2 democrats, they will be shitting needed internal organs down their pants legs...:bump:
 

spadedNfaded

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The watermarks will prove it.

Ah, gotta love those States Rights that Republicans sing about. Unless of course you lose an election, then you need to Federal Govt the shit outta them States.

Dems bring Election Security bills to the floor - Rs shoot them down and say "States can secure their own elections"

Republicans lose - "that's not right, we need a full Fed Govt investigation into how we didn't win even tho the States in questions have counted, recounted and audited their counts.
 
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