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Black Chopper over my house for 3 hours....

google littlebird or blackhawk, see if thats one , they use alot of national guard helicopters to look for plants mostly the blackhawks, if you seen a littlebird it could been the state troopers special weapons helicopter, they have airplanes and all kinds of stuff.


I googled them both...definately not a blackhawk, thats way to big, it looked just like the LittleBird....small and black with no doors....Thats exactly what it was...

thanks everyone for the well wishes....be safe everyone.
 

Molson

Member
Thanks man...i could not agree more...Theres no doubt in my mind, I made the right decision...simply put, its NOT worth the risk, not even close.

Glad to hear yours safe. I can't imagine how fast your adrenaline must've been pumping. There's now way to prepare yourself for something like this.

You already know this... and it's sad to say it, that you can never grow there again. Having been successful in finding a grow this year, you can bet they'll be back next year. And with LE being suspicous of you, like you said, it's too much of a risk to grow.

And as far as the heli being black/purple/turquoise/zebra striped... most times LE will work together with the natl. guard, DEA, etc. Eradication is usually a joint operation and the agencies involved will most likely vary on how "hot" your county is in terms of growing/seizures.

Doesn't really matter what chopper the agency is from. There all on the same team. :whistling:
 

DIGITALHIPPY

Active member
Veteran
video camera is close by, and I told my wife to start filming as soon as they come in, cause Im going to resist arrest and make them tazer me.....After all, Im innocent... house is clean....

DISCLAIMER: Some of this did happen, but they where not my plants, I have never grown marijuana before, I just stated above to be cool and fit in. Im a lonely guy and wish I had friends.

originaly i was going to count how many times you said allegedly, but, nah.
glad ur safe.
 

DIGITALHIPPY

Active member
Veteran
I would never post anything on here unless it is a legal (to your state) post. LEO definately monitors these sites, just like the stories you here about busts using craigslist. And i know for a fact LEO can track IP adresses from posts. Just a heads up bro, if your worried, I would even ditch the computer at someones for awhile. Goodluck with your situation, will send you a prayer, peace.

thats an awful lot of "police type work"....

most cops arnt going to want to ACTUALY work...
although they do have a thing for gardening...:tiphat:
 

clp

Member
I hope that wherever you imagined you put this made up stuff you did not really ever have that it is safe, secure, & does not have your fingerprints on it. I hope this imaginary stuff got buried or burned, otherwise it is just sitting there ready to be found and fuck your shit up really bad. I would not be suprised if they come back this week in all honesty man so make sure you don't have shit in your house! Stay safe, you did the right thing! :canabis:


Very very true, any thing with plant material/soil etc should be burned or buried ASAP!
Try your best to get that plastic out when you burn though :tiphat: Smoke Green, Grow Green, Be Green :D

It was definetly a good choice to get EVERYTHING out of that house. If you actually do get raided I'd love to see a video of that! Being innocent I'd put on a real show and be pissed as hell.

Let us know how it goes!
CLP
 

teemu shalanie

WeeDGamE StannisBaratheoN
Veteran
better 2 cut you lose's and close up shop , move like you said, and do it all over again, allegedly of course. good luck in all your future operations, be carefull feds dont forget just cause you slipped through the cracks this time, doesnt mean that they have lost their bonner for you, be carefull, bro. peace. TS
 
proxy servers
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1st goto ipchicken.com check your ip

next goto the proxy list here

http://www.proxy4free.com/page1.html

pick a proxy from the list and click on it

when the page opens goto the spot where it says enter url

next we are gonna go to ipchicken again (IF THE IP HAS CHANGED UR SAFE) while surfing from this page as ur real ip is now hidden
 
I was going to suggest taking the computer elsewhere as well, and wipe all the cookies, history etc while at it. Encrypt everything while you are at it.

(HOW TO WIPE UR PC RIGHT)

do a clean format several times wipe it clean so u can write over the data a few times so it cant be recovered

do this by deleting all partitions and making new one with a windows disk or OS disk...repeat a few times .... dunno how the encryptions are some are easy, some are not dont trust windows encryptions . i wouldnt put my faith in them though . windows is to easy to manipulate for C/++ coders.

when i say clean format i mean (warning u will lose everything on pc)

pop windows disk in and restart the pc when it ask to press any key to boot from cd do so ......
(if this dont work goto bios set CD-rom as 1st boot device)
next it will ask if u wanna upgrade or do clean install pick advanced clean install
delete all partitions and make a new one wait for windows to install and repeat 4-5x if u wanna be extra safe
thus meaning everything on your pc was deleted and written over several times so its unrecoverble by LEO'S tools

do this to all drives that can link u to a grow

next take all memory cards and flash drives that have/had illegal stuff on it and goto my computer
find the drive right click and click format 4-5x these are like mini hard drives and will get u busted also make sure u wipe the memory thats built in to the cams ,device also

the more times u repeat the methods above less likely it can be recovered i recommend atleast 5x

any questions pc related you may have shoot me a pm

ip addys
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like stated above servers are in the dam
servers are encrypted 256 SSL (maybe SSL 128)
the dam caresless bout our canna forum or what were doin with it
so there for leos would have to go all the way to the dam to see ip's or anything else thus of course with a warrant
anyone who becomes a member here see's the samething we all see. unless they are given mod or admin powers then they can see ip's for banning purposes, prevent spamming purposes , that way they can ban a user by ip or ip range (for life). myself i surf with proxys that way anyone who see's my ip its no big deal due to its not my real ip no matter if u see my ip or not

im a former blackhat... i know the ins and outs of the pc world
 
M

mrred

just formating wont work, i can even read data off a only formated harddrive, you have to use something like DBAN, Diriks BOOT AND NUKE, its rewrites your whole driver with random data at least 7 times
 
just formating wont work, i can even read data off a only formated harddrive, you have to use something like DBAN, Diriks BOOT AND NUKE, its rewrites your whole driver with random data at least 7 times


if u read i said format 4-5x back to back to overwrite your data to a unrecoverable state...if i do a clean install 4-5x u cant recover nothing bet

thus delete all partitions

make a new one

repeat 4-5x u wont see what was there before u started formatting
 

SOTF420

Humble Human, Freedom Fighter, Cannabis Lover, Bre
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Remember everyone just having pictures of pot plants and buds is not illegal, if you are not in those pictures (fingers, feet, etc,) and they are not able to be physically traced to your location then they might as well be pictures of baby bunny rabbits on there because there is not shit they can do to you for having pictures of pot plants or buds. Keeping this in mind, when you are taking pictures it should be with a neutral background in a safe place at the grow that cannot be readily identified as belonging to you in the future.

Other than some pictures and url history I don't really know what the hell you guys are keeping on your computers that would have you so worried to have to wipe it 5 times! But of course safety first! :canabis:
 
Wouldn't you love to see a little smoke trail snaking up from the ground at one of those choppers when they are out looking for plants, next thing you see, BOOM, chopper blows into a million pieces from a RPG strike, yeah!



what do u think this is xbox360 and modern warfare2 ? no one should wish death upon anyone imho

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well lets just say if u code u could be one of these ppl

somethings for example

botnet sources (illegal as hell)
KEY loggers
Remote access tools
Exploit scanners (scanners that scan a ip range find exploits and root machines harvest cookies credit card info boom u have access to any account they have if u know what your doin)
other things include
Kitty porn( these ppl should be shot in the D--- on site!)
personal info (your ss# and info)
business info (SS# account numbers for businesses or members of a business)

i will be here all night if i continue

if u just shoot pics of plants and ur smart bout it (cropping out things like backgrounds and stuff that identify u) or use a bud box ur good to go...bud boxes are great for shooting pix all u have is a background u choose or make and ur plant
 
Thanks alot for all the well wishes, really appreciated....i have not been on here in a few days, due to me keeping my computer at another house...Just being extra safe.... I have not heard another word about this...all is quite, Im sure nothing will happen, but still being very careful, and still approaching things as if they are coming back....Still clean...I have a feeling they set up trail cams to try and catch the grower....not sure, and I wont be finding out....but it makes sense....

.Im currently working on finding a new house, in a new area....May take a while to find the right home, but I wont stop until I do....My hobby took alot of my time, and it was hard work, mostly just demanding...but FUCK, I really do miss it already....ALOT....So I cant move fast enough.....but trying...

Anyways, thanks alot ladies and gents, everyone have a great season, becareful and smart and you already have them beat...Good luck, I hope you all have the best season ever...Grow a few 3 pounders for me...

6 footers what strain was that still early .ok .


If they were my plants, i would start them indoors, and put them out in early April....Most of them were 6 feet plus....Double Dutch...Big BudxHaze(HUGE)...GrapefruitxBlueberry(HUGE)....KC36(HUGE)..... and the rest of the strains, where big bushes.Well, big for June, 4 feet tall and about the size of 2 people holding hands making a circle....something like that...... They where going to be huge..... Ive had a few in the past that reached 14 feet tall, and I have no doubt a few of those would have reached that..EASY 1 to 3 pound plants..EASY....Oh well....always next year.....Be cool folks...later.
 
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Tr33

(HOW TO WIPE UR PC RIGHT)

do a clean format several times wipe it clean so u can write over the data a few times so it cant be recovered

do this by deleting all partitions and making new one with a windows disk or OS disk...repeat a few times .... dunno how the encryptions are some are easy, some are not dont trust windows encryptions . i wouldnt put my faith in them though . windows is to easy to manipulate for C/++ coders.

when i say clean format i mean (warning u will lose everything on pc)

pop windows disk in and restart the pc when it ask to press any key to boot from cd do so ......
(if this dont work goto bios set CD-rom as 1st boot device)
next it will ask if u wanna upgrade or do clean install pick advanced clean install
delete all partitions and make a new one wait for windows to install and repeat 4-5x if u wanna be extra safe
thus meaning everything on your pc was deleted and written over several times so its unrecoverble by LEO'S tools

do this to all drives that can link u to a grow

next take all memory cards and flash drives that have/had illegal stuff on it and goto my computer
find the drive right click and click format 4-5x these are like mini hard drives and will get u busted also make sure u wipe the memory thats built in to the cams ,device also

the more times u repeat the methods above less likely it can be recovered i recommend atleast 5x

any questions pc related you may have shoot me a pm

ip addys
----------
like stated above servers are in the dam
servers are encrypted 256 SSL (maybe SSL 128)
the dam caresless bout our canna forum or what were doin with it
so there for leos would have to go all the way to the dam to see ip's or anything else thus of course with a warrant
anyone who becomes a member here see's the samething we all see. unless they are given mod or admin powers then they can see ip's for banning purposes, prevent spamming purposes , that way they can ban a user by ip or ip range (for life). myself i surf with proxys that way anyone who see's my ip its no big deal due to its not my real ip no matter if u see my ip or not

im a former blackhat... i know the ins and outs of the pc world


That Won't Work!
You need to do a government swipe low level format with x' and o's
everything that is on your HD is still readable with a quick formant.

download the free seagate low level format dos program and burn it to a cd.

also proxy servers DO NOT hide your ip from the Feds or Police, only hides it from ICMAG...duh...you are stroking your ego if you think you can hide.
Every single piece of data on the net goes through Alexandria, VA where the Feds monitor the whole world. Nothing is hidden what so ever, and if you think so, you have another lesson to Learn, everything you do on the net is KNOWN and RECORDED.
nuff said, the data is out there. You can not hide.
 
That Won't Work!
You need to do a government swipe low level format with x' and o's
everything that is on your HD is still readable with a quick formant.

download the free seagate low level format dos program and burn it to a cd.

also proxy servers DO NOT hide your ip from the Feds or Police, only hides it from ICMAG...duh...you are stroking your ego if you think you can hide.
Every single piece of data on the net goes through Alexandria, VA where the Feds monitor the whole world. Nothing is hidden what so ever, and if you think so, you have another lesson to Learn, everything you do on the net is KNOWN and RECORDED.
nuff said, the data is out there. You can not hide.

LOL ...ok no one said a quick format (i said) a clean/fresh format 4-5x delete all partitions over write data .... and proxy servers used right ...anyone know of any these programs that can recover the data after being wiped i wanna test these out for myself ...like i said im a former black hat and code in several languages proxys DO WORK if so we wouldnt have a botnet problem on the net and DDOS attacks going on from (22,000 infected pc's from one botnet army) if u can find my ip by my hiding behind proxy u got one over on me ive been into alot of stuff i shouldnt have been and im not trying to have a pissing contest but i wanna see the stuff ppl talk bout used to find me so i can see what my security really is if this is true ive used several recovery programs and couldnt recover shit after wiped hard drives more then 3x w/o any special programs at all other then my windows disk (note) if u dont over write the space a few times it can be recovered but i stated that in my first post like i said ppl seem to doubt me so i wanna see for myself and proxys cant be found when used right ill call anyone out on that ...... when used right it hides the ip from everyone and everything im only a network security and internet securtiy ,A++ cert major here with a minor in software development

a CLEAN format is the deleting of all partions to where u have nothing but unallocated space on your harddrives make a new one and over write everything repeat multi times .....

let me guess u cant name these programs that do these wonders u speak of?

my methods of formatting then overwriting the data is used by the department of defense (Enough said)

Department of Defense (DoD) hard disk wipe standard requires the data to be destroyed is rewritten multiple times to ensure proper data protection. The DoD data wipe process will guard privacy by offering these features...

  • Erases data from your HDD permanently
  • Rewrites the data so that no data recovery program can piece it back together
  • Has the same role as a paper shredder, ensuring proper information discarding
  • Ensures all your private information, such as credit card numbers or passwords and emails, is irrecoverable once deleted

3. How Clean Off The Hard Drive... How Does The DoD Standard Work?

The U.S. Department of Defense 5220.22-M standard for disk-sanitization is the most rigorous data wipe procedure you will encounter.
This wiping standard requires seven passes, with each pass formed of 3 different data wipes... the hard drive is rewritten and covered with random patterns. With each wipe, the deleted data becomes harder to piece back together

key is to overwrite it the more u do the harder it gets to recover

one more thing ppl dont launch attacks from a botnet of 20,000 (these attacks cost companys millions of dollars sometimes) and get away with it without being able to hide yourself and why would u need to hide yourself well lets just say u can shut shit down to a stand still with one and the FBI would be at your door in a matter of minutes and u would be in deep deep shit more then any grow could get ya im not going to give ppl ideas/details but lets just say ppl wouldnt do it knowing the trouble if they couldnt be 100% sure they are not going to be traced it can be done im sure but i doubt anyone would seriously put that kind of time in or has the money to have someone put that kind of time in u can bounce ip to ip proxy to proxy country to country what are they gonna do kick in the doors at all these locations and risk being sued doubt it

if ur wondering how it could cost a company millions well if u own a site and or company and i shut ur connection to your internet down and no one can communicate or i shut ur site down then no works getting done nothing coming in or going out unless u use the phones or if i use your bandwidth for an attack that slows the company down or your connection down
 
A

argoagro

Glad to hear yours safe. I can't imagine how fast your adrenaline must've been pumping. There's now way to prepare yourself for something like this.

You already know this... and it's sad to say it, that you can never grow there again. Having been successful in finding a grow this year, you can bet they'll be back next year. And with LE being suspicous of you, like you said, it's too much of a risk to grow.

And as far as the heli being black/purple/turquoise/zebra striped... most times LE will work together with the natl. guard, DEA, etc. Eradication is usually a joint operation and the agencies involved will most likely vary on how "hot" your county is in terms of growing/seizures.

Doesn't really matter what chopper the agency is from. There all on the same team. :whistling:

Don't forget the CIVIL air patrol as well, they get heaps of funding & training to eradicate a fucking harmless plant.
 
LOL ...ok no one said a quick format (i said) a clean/fresh format 4-5x delete all partitions over write data .... and proxy servers used right ...anyone know of any these programs that can recover the data after being wiped i wanna test these out for myself ...like i said im a former black hat and code in several languages proxys DO WORK if so we wouldnt have a botnet problem on the net and DDOS attacks going on from (22,000 infected pc's from one botnet army) if u can find my ip by my hiding behind proxy u got one over on me ive been into alot of stuff i shouldnt have been and im not trying to have a pissing contest but i wanna see the stuff ppl talk bout used to find me so i can see what my security really is if this is true ive used several recovery programs and couldnt recover shit after wiped hard drives more then 3x w/o any special programs at all other then my windows disk (note) if u dont over write the space a few times it can be recovered but i stated that in my first post like i said ppl seem to doubt me so i wanna see for myself and proxys cant be found when used right ill call anyone out on that ...... when used right it hides the ip from everyone and everything im only a network security and internet securtiy ,A++ cert major here with a minor in software development

a CLEAN format is the deleting of all partions to where u have nothing but unallocated space on your harddrives make a new one and over write everything repeat multi times .....

let me guess u cant name these programs that do these wonders u speak of?

my methods of formatting then overwriting the data is used by the department of defense (Enough said)

Department of Defense (DoD) hard disk wipe standard requires the data to be destroyed is rewritten multiple times to ensure proper data protection. The DoD data wipe process will guard privacy by offering these features...

  • Erases data from your HDD permanently
  • Rewrites the data so that no data recovery program can piece it back together
  • Has the same role as a paper shredder, ensuring proper information discarding
  • Ensures all your private information, such as credit card numbers or passwords and emails, is irrecoverable once deleted

3. How Clean Off The Hard Drive... How Does The DoD Standard Work?

The U.S. Department of Defense 5220.22-M standard for disk-sanitization is the most rigorous data wipe procedure you will encounter.
This wiping standard requires seven passes, with each pass formed of 3 different data wipes... the hard drive is rewritten and covered with random patterns. With each wipe, the deleted data becomes harder to piece back together

key is to overwrite it the more u do the harder it gets to recover

one more thing ppl dont launch attacks from a botnet of 20,000 (these attacks cost companys millions of dollars sometimes) and get away with it without being able to hide yourself and why would u need to hide yourself well lets just say u can shut shit down to a stand still with one and the FBI would be at your door in a matter of minutes and u would be in deep deep shit more then any grow could get ya im not going to give ppl ideas/details but lets just say ppl wouldnt do it knowing the trouble if they couldnt be 100% sure they are not going to be traced it can be done im sure but i doubt anyone would seriously put that kind of time in or has the money to have someone put that kind of time in u can bounce ip to ip proxy to proxy country to country what are they gonna do kick in the doors at all these locations and risk being sued doubt it

if ur wondering how it could cost a company millions well if u own a site and or company and i shut ur connection to your internet down and no one can communicate or i shut ur site down then no works getting done nothing coming in or going out unless u use the phones or if i use your bandwidth for an attack that slows the company down or your connection down


like stated above before from the time you sign on to get an initaial IP# you have been tagged and thus everything you do routes through something and is fully traceable blackhat dont mean shit when compared to Patriot Act Parts 1 and 2 "Any transmission be it on a land locked line or through the air, (via satellite, cellular telephone device, Wifi Network; etc.) Analog or digital can and will be monitored" they use the boogeymen of terrorism to let them open doors to take away our freedoms, same as the "hackers that crash sites" they usually get hired and absorbed into these agencies and there are 3 possibly more underground bases operated by CIA, FBI, and US Dept of Homeland security, as well as military that spend time monitoring the info transmitted over phones and web. nothing is hidden except whats off the grid why do you think I get on from a buddies comp over an hour away from where I live which is also not where I possibly dreamed of growing but another hour away I racked up 122k miles on my car not to mention the motorcycles (gas savers--thinking green) I own in last 11 months just building and ordering things and I have run deep with officers at my side and can tell you,

the plastic pots on his porch is enough for probable cause, because it shows he obviously knows about plants, not illegal ones per say.


Also IF YOU HAVE EVER been bonded out of jail for anyreason you (depending on local laws) MAY have to petition the judge or courts or even governor of your state for your 4th amendment rights (the one covering illegal search and seizure)

I am glad hes safe also hide any literature on the type of plant they found if they can find a book titled "blah blah blah marijuana" they can have enough cause to harass you all over the place and try and prove they were yours off your property.

but dude Ive dropped almost 63000$ into my op on a whim and I'd trash it in a heart beat if I had a kid and dog and wife to think about, hell its just me and I'd trash it like the flash in a comic book.

and that video was fucked up CALL PETA!!!!!! and it happened like that to a buddy of mine when they arrested his dad when he was little now he has Oppositional Defiance Disorder, Bi-Polar like the rest of us and if a cop stops him it says on his name "call and wait for back up do not try and detain alone 1 so they have witnesses cause he likes to beat cops asses and 2 he hates cops... wonder why?... he gets federal disability for that and its to keep him from possibly running into a cop in public (hes been fighting them since 13 and winning... guess martial arts class pays after all... )


if they raid you tape it, but you should set the lights up and get african violets cause if they find something then the chopper (which if there hovering) can dial in the thermal and see the shape of plants and thru the roof etc in black and white... better find flowers than they suspect you forever of something and you stay in same area to be harassed. also it would give a reason as to your electric bill if they pull that on you when they search and dont find shit just one 400w buld and a few cheap flowers lol...

anyone remember the sony handycam recall cause the thermal night vision could see through clothes? add unlimited "boogey man terrorism hunting$$$" and you can see almost anything you want
 

Kalicokitty

The cat that loves cannabis
Veteran
what do u think this is xbox360 and modern warfare2 ? no one should wish death upon anyone imho
It was a joke douchebag.
Unfortunately when they burst through our doors with guns blazing over some plants, and kill people and beloved pets all the time, that's not a joke, that's very real.
So If I want to make a little joke about something happening to them, I will.
 
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