BIOCANNA - Anyone tried this line?

[Kalbhairav]

So.. Have been thinking of trying an organic line of fertilizers for some time now. The reason I'm thinking of going with biocanna is because I generally usethe canna chem line in soil.

I've done a little research and found conflicting opinions on this organic line.Is there anyone here who's used biocanna?

If not then maybe some of you can suggest an alternative. I'll be growing in soil and would like, in a perfect world, to have as little bottles about the place as possible.. Im all for simplicity. Another thing to note is that Im based in Europe and not all of the organic lines from the US can be found here which is why biocnna was at the top of the list..

Would love to hear your thoughts..

 

[Granger2]

I have not used the complete line. I like their BioBoost, and cannazyme and Rhyzotonic are good products as well. In Ledtester's Nute Study [google it], testing 8 Nute lines, it was one of the best, but costs much more than several other lines. Quality and yield were very good with few problems, other than cost. Very few bottles is an advantage. Good luck. -granger

 

[Kalbhairav]

Thanks Granger2

I've stumbled upon that nute study before. Certainly is very interesting. It's one of the only problems going with Biocanna when it comes to price..

So other than the Biocanna additives what are you using for your main grow and bloom nutes?

 

[wildgrow]

Nice find Granger.

 

[Granger2]

Thanks Wild. Major props to Ledtester tho.

Kal,
I said I "have" used BioCanna additives. I'm using brewed Earth Juice product line w/high P EWC ACT for bloom booster in week 3 and 5 or 6 of 12/12. Using Led's EJ feed chart, not religiously, but as a guide. I use the BioBoost near the end, just before flush as a flavor enhancer. Good luck. -granger

 

[From Da Forrest]

One thing i know is that the biovega smells like a cup of hot chocolate, and when im smelling it i almost want to take a hit from the bottle lol It made well for me for previous years and i will propably use it during this year. I use biorhizo to soak seeds. I made a half of dose solution and just put seeds into. Im also watering seedlings with it and from what i observe, the first roots are super white and are looking super healthy. Good luck with this line.

 

[habeeb]

I used to use it, good stuff..

thing is you have to shake it like hell to get the thick liquid at the bottom mixed up good..

second, is it has no Ca/ Mg, or trace amounts..

The N in it is very highly absorbance / fast acting.. or however you want to say that..

I really stopped using it solely on the fact of mixing problems.



I found using bio sevia to work much easier ( not much shaking ) and has Mg already in it..

 

[BasementGrower]

i run Canna Bio Vega.. and Fox Farms Grow Big. for Veg.. every other watering i switch back and forth.. with great results.. and i use Canna Bio Flores.. and Canna Substra Flores A an b .. same as veg .. switching back and forth.. and only using Bio for the last 4 weeks. and then flush for 5 waterings with pure water doing 10percent run off.. and the last 2 waterings i use 3 xs the potsize in water to final flush it.. sometimes use clearex if i dont have time to flush for 7 waterings all together.. but then u can really flush 1 time with clearex.. then the next day do a 6x the pot size in water.. and let it dry up and harvest.. still getting nice white slow burning ash. beautiful.. anyways.. thought id toss it out there.. but i do have additives i use for flower now. but i use that for 1 room .. the other room is all Bio line.. and i yield more in the big room .. but in the bio canna room i get smaller yields but i think the buds taste better.. and have an intense smell.. the room that i run mix of nutes every other watering.. i get great bigger harvests.. and allmost the same taste and smell. but u can tell that im not running the full bio line.. i wana say BioLine .. brings out the more sweeter and sour smells and tastes.. and the other room brings out more of a sour skunky type of smell on same clones.. its very wierd. but then again .. 1 room stays a tiny bit cooler then the other too so i dont know what to make of it . but right now. im starting an experiment. with 1 strain.. foxfarms .. plus trio of solubles.. bio canna. and Canna Substra. . Ionic .. the people who make clonex. and im trying to get the hydro guy to allow me to take some of the best nutes hes got.. and test them with a extremely detailed booklet so that he can actually show the results to people and.. have that person totaly bias.. and not from advanced nutes having advanced nutes win lol..

seriously trying to get him to do more.. but i have the 4 kinds.. and 1 kinda test sample thats toooo small to do a full grow so i wont use it .

 

[window]

hello,bio canna is a very good nutrient.i would recomend using the biovega for the first two weeks of the flowering period or you may experience premature yellowing of the fan leaves before switching to bioflores,at least i did when i used to use it.ive switched to plant magic oldtimers organic range now as ive found that to be better.grow and bloom is all you need,is this available to you? i still use bio rizotonic as plant magics root stim is not organic.hope this helps.

 

[Kalbhairav]

Some great responses. Thanks to everyone who's contributing.

From Da Forrest Ha, chocolate eh? You be careful your not tempted to take a swig! Thanks for the tip with the seeds and your input.

habeeb Thanks for your input. I guess your reason for swapping to the GH line was because it was just easier with your hydro set up and a thinner liquid? Do you think you've observed any noticeable differences in smell, flavour, yield and general vigour of your plants since the swap?

BasementGrower Interesting study your doing. I hope you might post some of your findings here as you go forward with your analysis. I've heard from other sources also that the bio canna line is great for taste and smell but yield is (sometimes) compromised.

window Hi window. Yes, I've heard of Plant Magic and it was also a consideration of mine. So you find it better? Can you be more specific? Is it just because there are more ingredients in Plant Magics Oltimer series that are beneficial toward the grow?

I still haven't bought my next line of nutes as I feel little more research is always a good thing before purchase.

I'm liking these responses. I've been thinking also of getting the General Organics GO Box as I've heard this can be quite good. Any thoughts?

EDIT: Also I've been looking at Humboldt Nutrients and their organic regiem and line up. I like their basic organic feeding schedule but need to research the products a little better to see if one of them contains a decent amount of Cal/Mag. I've heard good things about their organic line so might have to see if it is any good...

 

[humanYoda]

I used to use it, good stuff..

thing is you have to shake it like hell to get the thick liquid at the bottom mixed up good..

second, is it has no Ca/ Mg, or trace amounts..

The N in it is very highly absorbance / fast acting.. or however you want to say that..

I really stopped using it solely on the fact of mixing problems.



I found using bio sevia to work much easier ( not much shaking ) and has Mg already in it..

habeeb, Do you use this in hydro , coco or in soil?

HY

 

[Greyskull]

Kalbhairav - you need to check out subrobs albums and pictures circa 2007-2010 early 2011

he was using bio canna line with the bio terra medium
KILLING IT

Ive smoked his pot many many times. His pot, grown with Bio Canna, was amongst the best herb Ive smoked. along with my own...
common denominator being... CANNA

it costs a little more. so what. results are better. will be easier than mixing soil amendmentns thinking you were gonna get great tasting pot only to find out your mix wasnt all that.

seriously, check out subs pics.

good luck

 

[habeeb]

hi yoda..

actually I can say when I used it, some of the best smells I've had from any pot.. but also added fulvic, but not sure that changes anything in smell but.. yield is good for the low P in it, and saying it's from rock phosphate.. I will give them that

I initially bought for hydro, but used the bio sevia in peat. also I don't live in Europe so had to ship it in, as it was more for the experiment in hydro at that time.. also found that the pricing of bio sevia is far better then bio-canna from what I can remember..

great product, but once again, the shaking was annoying, and was told by canna that half the nutrient is in the thick stuff so it does need to be shaken.. I've read people go as far as putting it in hot water to get it to dissolve and mix up easier.. I even used the small 250 ml empty bio boost bottle to shake it up easier then the liter bottles... it was just a pain as I mix nutes daily, as I run small setups.. I find I liek simplicity, and sitting there shaking fro 45 seconds is un-acceptable in my growing setups..

 

[window]

hi kalbhaira,my reason for switching from biocanna to oldtimers was more about the premature yellowing i was having after switching to bloom.i believe this happens becouse of the sudden drop of n in the bloom foods during the switch from grow to bloom.after seaching through the internet and forums i found a lot of people stick with grow for the first two weeks to help the stretch and stock up on n levels.also i find biocanna nute ratios a bit strange,2.5n,2p,5k in there bioflores compared to 3,5,4 oldtimers.i have also used biobizz line and it is interesting to note that they reccomend using 1ml grow alongside there bloom all throughout flowering.i can honestly say i have had good results using all 3 lines so please dont think i am trying to push you away from biocanna,its just my expierience and my prefference.what i will say is plant magic soil is amazing,so fluffy and light and no perlite,some sort of biodegradable foam in its place so it doesnt float to the top when watering.just a side note i have recently been adding a bit of fine dolomite lime to my soil and this has help kept them greener through bloom,the cal,mag in the dolomite.

 

[window]

aah,the reason bioflores nute levels are so low is because it is preffarable to use it with there bio terra soil which is full of organic goodies,i believe so.i imagine great yeilds can be had with the two.

 

[humanYoda]

hi yoda..

actually I can say when I used it, some of the best smells I've had from any pot.. but also added fulvic, but not sure that changes anything in smell but.. yield is good for the low P in it, and saying it's from rock phosphate.. I will give them that

I initially bought for hydro, but used the bio sevia in peat. also I don't live in Europe so had to ship it in, as it was more for the experiment in hydro at that time.. also found that the pricing of bio sevia is far better then bio-canna from what I can remember..

great product, but once again, the shaking was annoying, and was told by canna that half the nutrient is in the thick stuff so it does need to be shaken.. I've read people go as far as putting it in hot water to get it to dissolve and mix up easier.. I even used the small 250 ml empty bio boost bottle to shake it up easier then the liter bottles... it was just a pain as I mix nutes daily, as I run small setups.. I find I liek simplicity, and sitting there shaking fro 45 seconds is un-acceptable in my growing setups..

thx for your input.
HY

 

[BasementGrower]

still waitin on Bio Terra to come back to the US? anyone know if its comin back.. my buddy used to runu the bio line and bio terra. and like he said above.. it was the best pot ever.. i find that using the Substra Flores and Bio Line with a tiny amount of fox farms in there.. actually makes my yields amazing.. and i get the same smell and taste i would usin the bio line.. ive been doing tons of work reorganizing the room.. and puttin up new lights.. and taking uot old ballasts an shit so i havent gotten the time to take the plants out and take pictures of each plant.. but i will before i harvest. i cannot wait to show u guys the bud porn.. i just really been busy.. then at nite i get bored an chill at the computer.. since i dont live at the grow house its tough .

 

[Mikron]

bad flavor impossible to flush. Also contains way too many heavy metals for my liking

 

[BasementGrower]

no clue what people are talking about on the flavor? i mix my nutes so im not strickly using any line.. but as u can see with my before the flush album. that my plants stay nice and green up until the flush.. with very few issues.. and so far great results.. i hear people saying it made all there strains taste the same? mine is opposite .. i get different flavors from each strain as well as smell.. but i also. do a flush the last 2 weeks.. with a little ?Honey ES from Humbolt. and a couple othre additives but no base .. and then the last week i go straight water with clearex .. and everything Yellows up . and bam. amazing buds every time.

 

[RespectGreen]

Just bought a gallons of everything. I've ran canna coco before, and loved it...

I mainly picked this because of friends, Lol. Bought in to the hype..

I've been running blazeoneups soil mix, but I can not up pot these plants... They're already too big, and are going to need food so canna bio it