they will leak a little without a doubt. If you looking for travel I would add the Lecithin and it would leak less. Good luck.
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BHO Pills
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Gray wolf is way over my head. Maybe he can come in and explain the dosage levels a little better.
Corn starch will last forever if you store it properly. The MTC oil that I use is a coconut base and has an expropriation date 2 years out, and doesn't say to refrigerate. Unless they react with each other I don't see a reason the pills couldn't last 2+ years without refrigeration.
I personally have made bho pills that I packed up and left in a storage container for 6 months during warm weather. Once the storage container was delivered and I found the ziplock with pills in it, and took the pills over the next month or so. No problems what so ever, several people ate them and all enjoyed them. I have even eaten pills out of the freezer that were older than that, but not sure how old exactly. Those were good too. I always make just BHO and MTC oil, never corn starch. However my next batch I am going to try Gray Wolfs recipe.
Corn starch will last forever if you store it properly. The MTC oil that I use is a coconut base and has an expropriation date 2 years out, and doesn't say to refrigerate. Unless they react with each other I don't see a reason the pills couldn't last 2+ years without refrigeration.
I personally have made bho pills that I packed up and left in a storage container for 6 months during warm weather. Once the storage container was delivered and I found the ziplock with pills in it, and took the pills over the next month or so. No problems what so ever, several people ate them and all enjoyed them. I have even eaten pills out of the freezer that were older than that, but not sure how old exactly. Those were good too. I always make just BHO and MTC oil, never corn starch. However my next batch I am going to try Gray Wolfs recipe.
I found a great trick.
Buy an ash catcher for your oil bong. When the oil drips down the ash catcher will keep it from going in the bong water. Once it accumulates, make BHO pills out of the reclaim. It smells a little funky, but the potency is just as strong and you don't have to cook the oil. It is already decarboxolated. I just heat up the MTC oil so the BHO reclaim will break up faster, then make the pills. No need to cook for 30 min. Hope this helps.
Buy an ash catcher for your oil bong. When the oil drips down the ash catcher will keep it from going in the bong water. Once it accumulates, make BHO pills out of the reclaim. It smells a little funky, but the potency is just as strong and you don't have to cook the oil. It is already decarboxolated. I just heat up the MTC oil so the BHO reclaim will break up faster, then make the pills. No need to cook for 30 min. Hope this helps.
There seems to be a few unanswered questions regarding dosage...
I have taken my "unvendorable" BHO, and decarbed it with a 1:1 ratio of MCT oil as a vehicle to make handling easier.
I then take that mixture to the local lab to verify the carbolic acid has been removed allowing full bioavailability, and mg per ml of my solution.
Then I dilute as needed to get my target mg per capsule. If you are good at math, you should be able to figure it out. As an example my decarbed mixtures run about 300 mg per ml.
Most people will get relief from 20 mg, but I make 20, 40, and 60 mg caps. Nothing but happy clients...
I have taken my "unvendorable" BHO, and decarbed it with a 1:1 ratio of MCT oil as a vehicle to make handling easier.
I then take that mixture to the local lab to verify the carbolic acid has been removed allowing full bioavailability, and mg per ml of my solution.
Then I dilute as needed to get my target mg per capsule. If you are good at math, you should be able to figure it out. As an example my decarbed mixtures run about 300 mg per ml.
Most people will get relief from 20 mg, but I make 20, 40, and 60 mg caps. Nothing but happy clients...
Arminius - Those look great. I need at least 600mg to get a good high. Can you pack that much into a pill? I would love to make the pills your talking about, seem very high quality.
600 mg!! FFS... Have you had your mixture tested? If you don't already understand the process of decarboxylation of cannabis, you can google it. Not trying to offend, but even BHO has to be heated up to release the Delta 9 etc...
The most I have taken has been ~200 mg, and I could not talk or walk for 8-10 hours. I have a 400 mg bottle of tincure that is made from the same base stock. I gave a bottle to a parapalegic who took the whole 400 mg bottle and got lost in the local market, and his tolerance is way up there.
I do 6-10 dabs a day, plus a joint, so my tolerance is up there as well.
Edit: To answer your question, yes it is possible, but you will need horse pills. A 00 gel cap holds about 0.9 grams of the liquid, and undiluted would be about 250 mg per cap. You could reduce the carrier oil to increase your mg per ml, but I believe there is a point where is will be too thick to get into a cap.
I got those mg dosage numbers from harborside. They have some brownies that are 20$ and have 600mg in them. They told me to break it up into many pieces, but I downed it. Got me kinda high, tried it a handful of times and now I don't waste my money. The other product I would get on occasion is the Kiva tangerine dark chocolate bars. I would have to eat two, and they are 180mg each. I would be much more full than high at that point. I am a big dude, (230lbs 6') and I dab most days. Not sure if it's my tolerance or what, but smoking weed gets me high every time.
JointOperation
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my friends the same way.. i decarbed some oil i made with ethanol that came out harsh to vape.. and he has a much lower smoking tolerance then me.. we weigh the same. and everything..
and i took 4 caps. and he took 8 because previously he didnt feel much at all..
i ended up stoned very nicely.. and hes fine.. just a lil high.. and tired..
lol no clue why this is.. but would love to find out lol .
someone should invent a pill or drink to take. that completly puts your tolerance back down to 0.. lol would save me some money weed and oil .haha.
and i took 4 caps. and he took 8 because previously he didnt feel much at all..
i ended up stoned very nicely.. and hes fine.. just a lil high.. and tired..
lol no clue why this is.. but would love to find out lol .
someone should invent a pill or drink to take. that completly puts your tolerance back down to 0.. lol would save me some money weed and oil .haha.
luxcultivars
Member
Hey there, I just wanted to thank you for posting this, although I am years behind you guys. I am making CBD bho caps for some cancer patients and needed a way to pull it off. Great technique.
Regarding what you said above, I may be missing something but the exact reverse is actually the case: decarbing converts THCV into THC, not the other way around. But THCV does have some therapeutic value:
Tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA, 2-COOH-THC), is a biosynthetic precursor of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the active component of Cannabis.[1][2][3][4] THCA is found in variable quantities in fresh, undried cannabis, but is progressively decarboxylated to THC with drying, and especially under intense heating such as when cannabis is smoked.[5] While THCA does not have psychoactive effects in its own right, it does have antiinflammatory and neuroprotective effects.[6][7] Despite the ready decarboxylation by drying or heating ex vivo, conversion of THCA to THC in vivo appears to be very limited, giving it only very slight efficacy as a prodrug for THC.[8] Consequently it is believed to be important in less-psychoactive preparations of cannabis used for medical use, such as cannabis tea.[9] It is also commonly used as a biomarker in drug testing along with THCV, to distinguish between prescribed synthetic Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, such as Marinol, and cannabis plant material which may also be used by patients.[10]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinolic_acid
Also, here's the decarb graph that details the time/temperature spectrum.
Cheers, and thanks again for sharing your technique.
Don't trust anything on a label in a store. You can search public test results from SC Labs, and you will see most miss their stated dosage, or it's largely un-decarboxylated. There are countless snake oil salesmen out there...
Primalraindrop
Member
Wow guys!
Wow guys!
I decided to make these yesterday. I went to the store. and then turned some bho into these pills. I took 1 gram of bho to about 3ml of coconut oil. One thing i noticed are you guys using like super hard stable shatter to make it?> It took a while for my shatter to disolve into the liquid. anyways i do believe these are all 100mg each and check out the variety of flavors and colors!
Wow guys!
I decided to make these yesterday. I went to the store. and then turned some bho into these pills. I took 1 gram of bho to about 3ml of coconut oil. One thing i noticed are you guys using like super hard stable shatter to make it?> It took a while for my shatter to disolve into the liquid. anyways i do believe these are all 100mg each and check out the variety of flavors and colors!
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rubberducky
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Can someone please tell me how you guys are figuring out how man mg of bho are in each cap.
Im really bad at math. ive searched for hours cant figure it out.
whats the formula for figuring out mg of bho per dose?
Im really bad at math. ive searched for hours cant figure it out.
whats the formula for figuring out mg of bho per dose?im gonna have to try this out. I have a butt load of bho, and time. I just need to hit the local vitamin house for some 00 caps and some MCT oil. I make some killer potent brownies and go thru about 2 dozen every month to my patients and myself. maby they will like the caps ve edibles.
and skunkfarm has the decarb down pact 293* @ 8 mins has been working perfect for me for 2 years now.
now im not sure if this was mentioned in the 7 pages, but why cant you decarb the bho in a small mason jar in the oven at the required/desired temp and time, then add your MCT (after the jar cools obviously or the jar will crack), then cook at 145* for 35 mins to blend the bho and mct together, then let cool and add to caps.
when im making my edibles I always decarb 1st in a SEALED metal bowl for 293* @8 mins, then in a double broiler , c ook my oil and decarbd bho to 145* for 35 mins until well belended. then let cool and use for my recipe.
and skunkfarm has the decarb down pact 293* @ 8 mins has been working perfect for me for 2 years now.
now im not sure if this was mentioned in the 7 pages, but why cant you decarb the bho in a small mason jar in the oven at the required/desired temp and time, then add your MCT (after the jar cools obviously or the jar will crack), then cook at 145* for 35 mins to blend the bho and mct together, then let cool and add to caps.
when im making my edibles I always decarb 1st in a SEALED metal bowl for 293* @8 mins, then in a double broiler , c ook my oil and decarbd bho to 145* for 35 mins until well belended. then let cool and use for my recipe.
Yes, you can decarb first, I have done it myself. IME, it is easier to decarb it at least 1:1 with some MCT, then dilute as needed.
rubberducky
Member
Can someone please tell me how you guys are figuring out how man mg of bho are in each cap.
Im really bad at math. ive searched for hours cant figure it out.
I just mad 50 caps with 10 ml of oil and 1gram of bho.
How do I figure out how many mg of bho in each pill?
some please help my patience need to know how much are in each pill ive searched the net for days. I cant seem to figure out the formula?
Whats the formula to figure out how many mg of bho are in each cap?
