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Beginning Signs of Root Problems in DWC

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TreehouseJ

Also, with a little searching around here, you might find a pre-determined amount of bleach or pool shock that you should add per gallon, ostensibly bypassing the need for a meter, at least in the short run.
 

SamsonsRiddle

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i'll read the link

i'll read the link

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=270942

NO humics or fulvics. Humics or fulvics + chlorine or pool shock = cancer. Just a heads up.

good thing you said that, i'll leave out the Floralicious Plus. I'm guessing i can't use it with the DMGZ either since it's chloramine, copper sulfate (root stop for plumbing), and that other one...

I cleaned first with 1 gallon drip clean mixed and rinse in Rubbermaid (little) tank. let that sit for about 20 mins on stones.

Both rinses i turned the air stones on. (picked up a couple long bars ones to replace 2 of the air stones)

Then cleaned with 8 drops of household bleach in a gallon of water, let sit 20 mins.

Rinsed and added 3 gallons of Dyna Gro FP + Bloom and Protekt at 1.5ml/ gal and 5 drops per gallon of bleach. Ph'ed at 5.78 (not bad :D):moon:

Let you know how things work out. thanks for all the help.
 

SamsonsRiddle

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I never got around to buying a chlorine meter before I went the gold zone route, nor have I ever used a chlorine strip, but yes, those strips should work perfectly fine, providing that they have an indicator for your 1ppm or whatever it is . Might not be as convenient as a digital meter, but I'll trust strips before I trust a consumer grade digital meter any day of the week. There might be chlorine strips that are designed to indicate lower levels, perhaps at pet smart or somethin'.
I actually have a temperature compensation high accuracy ph meter from ebay (etekcity or something like that) that i store via the lid 4.0 solution. I think it's the .05 ph high accuracy one. This thing works awesome, only drifts .01-.02 per month and was $20 after shipping.

Consumer ph pen my ass ;):laughing:
 
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TreehouseJ

I've bought a few $20 pens. I've bought a few $250 dollar pens. My next meter will be in the $1k range, should I ever find a need for it, which I doubt. I've had more than a few "mystery" failures while I was dicking around with ph up and down on a daily basis. I've had nothing but success ever since I ditched the habit of relying on my pens and started relying on frequent dumps and the predictability of properly mixed nutrient solution. I don't use mediums or additives that require ph adjustment. I didn't start growing this way out of laziness or overconfidence, I just got mad watching my mentor crush everything he touches without any meters. I also spend half as much time and $ on my grow now that I'm not constantly checking, rinsing, calibrating, double blind testing, and replacing my meters. I'll buy a nice meter if it ever becomes more economical to buy a prosumer model than it is to follow the lucas regimen and dump every few days.
 

SamsonsRiddle

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Here's what happened:

I've had to flip because it was overgrowing the space, but it seems as though things are chugging along in a positive direction.

I've been mixing chlorine in my with nutrient solution or water (depending on what my girls call for) @ 5 drops per gallon. I can tell when the chlorine starts to run out in my res because my ph and ec will drop. While it is working, everything has stayed stable between 5.7-5.9 and .8 ec.

I am currently running about 50:50 of Dyna Gro Foliage Pro : Dyna Gro Bloom with enough protekt to keep my ph right in range.

I want to add my Dutch Master Gold Zone, but i'm thinking about waiting until my next res change. I don't know how it will interact with the chlorine already in the system.

Will 1.5ml/gallon be strong enough or can i use more safely?

BTW - Found out my digital thermometer was wrong when i tried to calibrate it, no wonder all the problems.
 

SamsonsRiddle

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I forgot to mention - my water temps have been way lower than i thought. the thermometer was running 4-6 degrees below what it actually said. so when it was 68 and i added a frozen bottle, it was getting down into the 50s. maybe this caused low levels of DO which helped cause the root rot.
 
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