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[Guest]

....I just checked and there are no-more of those GH shirts available WWM.....sorry man.....

....Oh the ICMAG 4/20 Cup is on again this year if any of you can get to the Dam.....

Thanks for the effort Gypsy ... and here's a kick in the nether regions ... Even if there was one available my lawyer has once again reminded me that if I did obtain a shirt my pending suit against Arjan (for using my intellectual property without permission) might be compromised ... as it could be seen as a form of compensation or acceptance of said use. This is why we Need lawyers. And I really wanted one of those shirts ... (as Herb looks around dejectedly for the jar and the bubbler)

 

[Sammet]

Wat if I send you 250 tonite and all of sudden gypsys arrested and IC is gone like OG???

Tough luck I guess. I've already sent mine in (today) and even if IC shut down tomorrow I'd do it again. I've saved so much money growing my own - A lifetimes subscription = an ounce of crap seeded wet weed around here. Since I've been at ICMag I've saved on buying probably close to a pound of weed- I went from harvesting a few ounces once or twice a year to now harvesting a pound or more per annum.

So I'm paying backtaxes too. (well that's how I think of it)

 

[dkmonk]

Well im happy seedbay will let us use them as a means of payment just as long as we order seeds, thats a good start but still i think you should look into setting up your own method.

As far as the pot porn thing goes it would be retarded, if you want porn go to a porn site, having porn here would discredit the site i think and bring in unwanted members imo.

 

[neuroherb]

Must admit GN that when I first read the end of this thread I had a lot of reservations along the usual lines of the server provider vs the comunity content provider that is common to forums. However after reading your first post in the thread I got to give you credit for trying to tackle an issue that is very common to forums in an interesting manner.

I do still have one reservation for you along the line of IP on the comments posted. At present IC basically claims the legal status of enabler for others to make un edited comment at their responsibility. If you start charging for access to this information are you therefore taking ownership of the IP on these comments which could be seen to put you as publisher & then could this be used against you as a conspirator for anyone the LEO could prove gained the information to grow from here. Only thinking of this because I read a thread on here about a hydro shop being charged along these lines.

 

[Alex-F]

$100 = €66 I'm in

 

[mrwags]

You would be in better shape than Gypsy and we start a defense fund.

Man I do love me some adult talk every now and then.


Mod Karma to BadKarma even tho mine is good.


Mr.Wags

 

[Guest]

Wow! so many thoughts and opinions. I had a few thoughts/suggestions myself. First off I have no problem with the idea of paying for a worthy cause that provides so much enjoyment for so many people. I as most of the rest of you love and enjoy ICMag.com greatly. I personally could not come up with $250 if my life depended on it, thus my thoughts as follows.
From reading between the lines of 10 pages of comments I believe most want to physically receive something in return for their "donation". For example why not put together a package deal? Say 3 for argument sake,name them what you want silver,gold,platinum whatever at the requested $50, $100, or lifetime $250. Each package contains a t-shirt stating something along the lines of " I am an ICMag.com supporter" you get the idea, on the back or vice-versa it would say "seedbay.com". All packages get a t-shirt, 2nd level get's a t-shirt and a pack of seeds( this could be IC or SB discretion, say $50 value) and highest level a t-shirt and a pack of seeds (say $100 value or some hidden jewel not seen for a while done with a poll let's say). This would give every contributor something physical, to hold in their hands. Depending on the beans offered in the higher level membership you could possibly double the monetary donation or more depending on what people thought the value of the package was really worth to them. This would be offered on seedbay.com as an auction. Another thought, I agree whole heartedly that if everyone had to log in using a member name free or not it would discourage some of the "guest" statistics that have been mentioned thus lowering bandwidth usage. On a final thought for now, members that donate to the freebie program, say minimum 100 beans, get's say a month membership minus the t-shirt. This could/would encourage members that are on the fence let's say about a paid membership to actually experience the enhanced benefits of becoming a paid member. Just my thoughts for the moment. Whatever happens, thank you Gypsy and DG for providing this site to us all. I know I for one have and do enjoy it immensely.

 

[Bubble Puppy]

Comming up with $250 at once to some can be difficult

What sounds good would be to allow whovever can or wants to send the full $250 do so ,and give them their status,under their nic .

For the rest allow them to send in what they can,w sbay orders sounds nice ,and keep a running total of what each person has sent ,when someone hits the $250 mark ,they then join the others ,with supporter logo and privliges .

Just a thought and 2 cents

 

[neuroherb]

Couple of point corrections IMO. First the UK never decriminalised cannabis comments like that are a mis understanding of the re calssificatin to C in the first place & passing them around is what the UK government is using as an excuse to attempt another re classification back to B. All in all just another attempt from Preacher Gordy to revise Tony the poodles 'mistakes' without admiting the big one.

Second I think its a bit of paranoia to start giving the impression there is a threat to seed sales, actually I think seedbank & seed growers could be doing a lot more EU wide to support there customers. Changing there status would require legislation at the EU level & the direction of the EU overall is towards decriminilisation not more prohibition. Something the Gord will need to work on anyway to get his re grade through. Its all about headlines to get the Blue Rinse vote.

Additionally I know there is a predispostion for everything to be priced in dollars on the net however that doesn't mean the world revolves to american law. The DEA don't mean sh*te in the UK. AND the UK is where Gypsy is asking the money to be sent therefore UK law will have jurisdiction.

My concern regards the interactivity of advice on growing. A magazine prints articles & may take the usual letters to the Ed, but you can't daily or by the minute ask 'what did i do wrong' & 'what should i do to make it right?'.

By charging money to receive this advice & creating a core membership of those paying to pass it around if the LEO could make the connection is there a possibility a poster or the site owner could be charged as a conspirator in a grow. Plenty possibility of honey traps. I expect Gypsy has already had some legal advice, but if not t might be wise to get some as there is a thread on here where as part of a charge against a UK hydro shop they have used the conspiracy charge for giving grow advice.

I have seen loads of free forums 'monetize' there site & I have no problem with Gypsy introducing an optional donator system as the main word is OPTIONAL.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

....Yes ....please take note of the word OPTIONAL..........


.....and in a way anyone that posts a usefull thread or post is contributing to the good content of the site...........but in reality it does'nt help to pay the server/bandwidth costs......

 

[NOKUY]

Comming up with $250 at once to some can be difficult

man im not gonna say what i think its a fair price cuz i already did.......but in response to this post.....

....250 buks aint shit.

 

[LiLWaynE]

...

.....and in a way anyone that posts a usefull thread or post is contributing to the good content of the site...........but in reality it does'nt help to pay the server/bandwidth costs......

im really glad that you mentioned this, because it was a thought that had crossed my head at one point or another somewhere down the line...and im sure im not the only one...

peace.

 

[bonecollector]

Gypsy my man, yes its me. Drop me a private message. We have alot to talk about my freind.

 

[Endo]

Gypsy my man, yes its me. Drop me a private message. We have alot to talk about my freind.

not without your 50 posts. you cant pm. might wanna try and catch him in chat or something.

 

[Guest]

not without your 50 posts. you cant pm. might wanna try and catch him in chat or something.

cant get in chat either

 

[donutsandwich]

hey gypsy... i think this is a great idea i can understand why youd need these funds... once i can scrap together $250 of extra change ill defeinitely wanna do this.. your site has helped me out immmensely when it comes to my growing experience and that alone is worth well more than $250... the info here will give me mj which id value at priceless because i was able to fully enjoy the entire process of plant growth especially the smoking...

 

[neuroherb]

Don't like to sound like a downer & I do more reading in other areas as I have more to learn than to say. However although I understand the sentiment I would question the wiseness of publicly expressing money to GN results in yield in ones hand.

I agree totaly on the optional GN but don't think it addresses the concern I have. Publicly showing the supporter as being of the mag not the forum plus maybe giving posters the ultimate right to delete their comments may go some way towards it.

I think I will wait a few months after this is fully implemented to see how the wind blows over it all before making a choice.

 

[dbuzz]

man im not gonna say what i think its a fair price cuz i already did.......but in response to this post.....

....250 buks aint shit.

dood, then why don't you pay for a few other subscriptions.

 

[dank.frank]

Well, I may not be one of the big boys as some have said, but even with low posts, I have viewed this site for well over a year. I was a reader of OverGrow....but we all know how that story ended. My point, is that you can never really tell what the future will bring...I would be seriously upset if I didn't get a refund if for any reason I did not have TRUE lifetime access.(and not lifetime of the site)

Don't get me wrong....I find tons of great information here, and it is always interesting reading...but $250...that seems a bit steep. I understand and apperciate the burden you take on by managing this site...BUT the best idea I have heard yet, don't let guests post. registered members only...see how that works and then escalade to some other option.

Or simply don't store so much....create a ENCYCLOPEDIA OF WORTHY POSTS....and delete the other chit, chatty non-sense question forms that exist for a needless amount of time. Especially when a lot of questions asked could all ready be easily answered after a short trip to the WORTHY POSTS section.

No offense, but I honestly have a hard time navigating this site and finding the same post twice...or finding posts on a particular topic....mabye a futher refinement of topics to better organize things...and have less clutter. For example...

Add an aeroponics, and a dwc, soil, room....and then within that have the current selection
or even rooms dedicated to training types...scrog, lst, sog, bush, bonsia...whatever...rather than a dedicated thread with a million and one semi related thread questions...


Probably not being clear...but I guess...elimate guess posts, and re-organize/futher refinement of the posting rooms...

there is the 2 cents of another small guy

 

[dank.frank]

AND ON A SIDE NOTE....

if the growers co-ops in California can offer to pay off half the state debt...then offer to help out folks like GN doing us all huge favors...

...no offense meant