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Bennyweed1

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HPS tent...20 some plus days into flower. 8/28 is their chop date I believe. 5 Pure power plants and 1 pine apple express. I feed the girls about every other week with a tea consisting of EWC, high p-k bat guano, kelp meal, alflafa, and molasses.

Other then that they are on pure RO/DI. These girls are the ones being jacked with by the thribs. My spray stuff should be here in the morning....right in time.

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If ya noticed some of the plants look droppy right? Thats because the dripper had an air bubble in the line and they probably werent being water for about 12 or so hours before I noticed. lol then the damn bubble passes and all the sensors click on full bore flooding the shit outta everything! haha nothing pisses me of more when that happens! I love the bluemats but when the act up they go fucken nuts!

530 cfm fan for the heat
Bug spray for them pesky bugs
Correct 8mm feed line
New Co2 controller

hopefully this is the missing links
 

Bennyweed1

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That heat wave did a number on me alright. Check this shit out.

You see that plant in the middle? It took those temps the worst, the other two look okay and are finally starting to swell.

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And you see the plant pretty much at your 12, the one with yellowing leafs? Is that because the plant is no close to the bulb and maybe a combination of the intense ass heat we had? I know it is not an N def. That is a clone of the other 4 PPPs and they are not yellowing and are in the same soil being fed the same tea. That plant is probably 6in from the bulb and I cant move it any further. The pot is already against the tent.
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The good news is I have my exhaust fan installed and it is for sure doing the job. Before the basement would always be around 90 degrees even with the lights out.

Now the air condition actually shuts off when the lights are off because the heat has somewhere to go!!!! Who woulda thunk such a thannng?!

Inside the tents is a cool 69 degrees with lights out. Gonna see how much it jumps when the lights come back on.

My co2 controller should be here Tuesday.
 

bobblehead

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Keep up the good work benny. Your plants are definitely heat stressed... You can see some yellowing in a few of my plant well... Just correct the issues and the new growth should be nice and green and uncurled...
 
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DHF

Good luck Benny.....and yeah....It`s amazing how well plants do with increased temps and CO2 levels , but take either out of the equation and the plants take a shit.......as yas witnessed first hand.....

Hope all works out ....DHF....:ying:.....
 

Bennyweed1

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Good luck Benny.....and yeah....It`s amazing how well plants do with increased temps and CO2 levels , but take either out of the equation and the plants take a shit.......as yas witnessed first hand.....

Hope all works out ....DHF....:ying:.....

You got that right DHF :muahaha:

Within two days of being without Co2 in 100 degree heat they total look like someone bet their dick all through em'.

For sure not looking happy. The center LED soil bed is actually crispy up top lulz..... totally not gonna lie about that one. I wonder how bad that is going to effect her.

Makee me want to get cooltubes in the future. I know people love barebulbs but I just cant deal with the heat in the summer.

Im thinkinking I wanna sell my LED lights and buy another 600w ballast and two cooltubes, one for each tent. Then I would be able to for sure keep the tents in the 80s cause the small little 5000 btu A/C will have a much better effect. I'd also then have to verts going.....

What would you do? Wait it out until the summer hits it? I do wanna see one yield out with these LEDs thou. I hear the smoke is incredible. :canabis:
 

Bennyweed1

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hey I have a question for anyone wantin' to help a brotha out.

I bought a new high pressure pump for my co2 burner. It is a 115vac pump made to run RV water systems and what not.

My problem is it is setup to hard wire into an electrical system. It has a white, green, and black wire. Is that just a normal three prong grounded plug I suppose?

I need to attach a plug to it.

Here is the pump:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B63ZAU/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
 

Mister_D

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hey I have a question for anyone wantin' to help a brotha out.

I bought a new high pressure pump for my co2 burner. It is a 115vac pump made to run RV water systems and what not.

My problem is it is setup to hard wire into an electrical system. It has a white, green, and black wire. Is that just a normal three prong grounded plug I suppose?

I need to attach a plug to it.

Here is the pump:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B63ZAU/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

Yup normal 3 prong plug. Homedepot sells what they call a tool replacement cord. It's just a 6ft cord with a 3 prong plug on one end and bare wires on the other. Work great for just this sort of thing ;)
 

Bennyweed1

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Yup normal 3 prong plug. Homedepot sells what they call a tool replacement cord. It's just a 6ft cord with a 3 prong plug on one end and bare wires on the other. Work great for just this sort of thing ;)

right on, thats what I figured. Thanks dude. 7/26/12 my co2 controller gets here and I can get that all setup again. The shit really make a huge difference in this heat.

Right now I opened my tents up (unsealed em') I have a 8" 590cfm fan pumping air out and a 6" 530cfm fresh air intake going and temps are still resting around 88 degrees.

I need to get to a med state :bigeye:
 

Bennyweed1

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hey on a real note......I need someone that has bluemat advise.

I keep having a sensor go nuts and dripping all over the place....I been to thinking about it for a while now. I have my resev. placed like 8-9' above the plants.....I thought maybe the pressure is to much for the sensors and that is why one here and there keeps giving out.

Its weird, like they will run fine for 2-4 days and one morning I will go to check on the plants and boom.....got water flowing out a pot. Slow drip too, not like a steady stream but just a constant drip. Real starting to get annoying because it is messin' everything up.

Im thinking I might have my resev. to high up.
 

Mister_D

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Benny i'm not an expert, but your res is fine. On the blumat website they have a picture of a res on the roof feeding two floors of plants below. Sounds to me more like you are getting air bubbles in you line somewhere. I'd check all your cones for hairline cracks, and maybe add an air relief just past your res (just tee into your feed line and run a piece of hose up the side of your res. Make sure the hose is open at the top and above the water line in your res)
 

Bennyweed1

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Benny i'm not an expert, but your res is fine. On the blumat website they have a picture of a res on the roof feeding two floors of plants below. Sounds to me more like you are getting air bubbles in you line somewhere. I'd check all your cones for hairline cracks, and maybe add an air relief just past your res (just tee into your feed line and run a piece of hose up the side of your res. Make sure the hose is open at the top and above the water line in your res)

Mister D, your da man! Seriously thanks for the advice. I sit here and think about these stupid things but it is so much better to hear it from someone else. I figured there was air getting in with my Jerry ass rigged main feed line.

I ordered all new 8mm feed line and tee splitters (such a rip off!!) however I did not think about the breather line.

I assume you have bluemats? Did you do this with your resev? It makes complete sense. I'd spread some rep but it wont let me tag ya again until I spread the love else where. I got you thou Mista D! Mista D dizzle ladies and gentlemen!
 

Mister_D

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Benny you crack me up man. Obviously you havn't been following my grow log :biggrin:. Yup i'm the proud owner of 64 blumats, good chance very soon i'll have another ~150 of em. To be honest I havn't even hooked a single one up yet, but that will change by next week ;). However like all grow related decisions, I research shit to no end before pulling the trigger. Blumats are nearly bullet proof if you take the time to setup them up properly. I will be adding a breather line just outside of my res. I also went ahead and upgraded to 1/2" line to better deal with air in the system (this was tested in the big blumat thread). While we're on the subject, there is no need to buy that expensive ass 8mm line. 1/4" fits all the tee's etc that blumat sells. You can even skip the blumat tee's and buy 3/32" tee's or straight barbs from kentsystems, drill a 3/32" hole in your manifold line, push them in, and they attach to the 3mm feed line. Much cheaper and allows you to use whatever size manifold line you want ;)
 

bobblehead

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Blumats are nearly bullet proof if you take the time to setup them up properly.

:laughing:

Mister D's famous last words... Haha... Wait till you actually use them. :) Not that they don't work well... But when ur playing with so many, you learn about the issues first hand real fast. I mean you can't anticipate everything... Or can you?
 

Mister_D

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Bobble - With as many people using them and sharing their successes and failures, I feel pretty confident in my design. Did a lil research into fluid dynamics also ;). I don't doubt I will experience some hiccups while dialing them in, but i'm making it easier on myself understanding and applying "the rules". We both have the added challenge of not living at or near our grows.
 

Bennyweed1

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Ya I hear ya both on the blue mats, they do take some time to dial in and I only have 12 of them.

I kinda have my main manifold setup like how you described mista D. I basically took some 1/2 hose I had from a timer/pump drip system I used a year ago and punched holes in it for the barbs to punch into.

I figured the blumats were acting up because air was getting in somewhere. Hopefully the breather line and regular tubing helps the situation.

Everything was working awesome when I just had 6 sensors in one tent runnin' but when I added the other 6 sensors when I filled the second tent is when shit started acting up like a school girl.

This is what I really want to know. I grow organically so when I feed my girls the solution usually has particles and such in it. If I strained out the big shit and only had fine micron shit floating around from say dissolved bat guano could I send that shit through the blumats?

There are no valves that can clog like using regular pump powered drip heads. Just basically a screw that tightens down on the small drip line until you have a desired flow of h20. I dont know how the shit detects the moisture though. I guessing there is like some sort of plunger internally that reads the water in the ceramic cone. When that shit lowers the plunger drops causing the drip line to open up just a crack allowing a small drip. Then when the moisture level is returned in the soil the water in the cone is restored causing the plunger thinga-ma-jig to rise back up to your set point you set on the dial??? lol god I hope I just made sense.......rambled a bit...but I should be able to send small particle shit through I think???

That is the one thing for me that is difficult with the blumats. I have to time the feedings right because if I just dump the shit on without cutting off the blumats 8hrs prior my pots will get all water logged. So I turn'em off so when I feed the pots dont get all soaked like my crotch during the great depression. I would like just to send the shit through the blumats once a week if I strained it out well but am afraid of everything exploding like a damn A-bomb ruining all my hopes, dreams, and aspirations. :window:
 

bobblehead

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The thing is the more tubing you have, the more room there is for air to get trapped. I tell ya I purged the line when I set them up until there was no air coming out... I went back this week, and purged the line, and what do you know... air... how did that get there? Maybe little bubbles stuck in the line that end up accumulating... idk... but when that stuff travels into the 3mm tubing, it can clog it. If you're not there to bleed the line it could be a problem... Hopefully I won't have air in the line next week. I want these things to work, I really really do... Otherwise I have to build a square room to simplify collecting runoff so I can use DTW.

The thing is though... If you're an absentee grower... And you set the moisture level and leave... and it's not adequate... Then you've lost a week of vigorous growth. Too few drops of water for several days adds up, and you can't see that only watching the plants 2-3 days. I've had the pots dialed in heavy, and I come back in a week and the plant looks happy, but the pot is too light. The pot needs to be heavy to get the best growth.

We'll see what happens when I go back next week... Back to B-B-Benny...
 

Bennyweed1

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Alright, I ran the new feedline for my bluemats and installed a drip system in my veg tent. Im going to New York the 28th and staying until the 4th. No one is going to be here to look after the girls so I am depending on my bluebats and drippers to take run the place while I am gone.

Anyway, here is the LED tent. The plant in the middle took a whack from the heat wave. Combo of Co2 going out, and not venting the A/C unit outside. For now I am not running the Co2 until the temps drop in the 70s outside. Just have fresh air intake and the exhaust pumping out the window. 530cfm intake and 580cfm exhaust with lights running at night.

Here we go LED tent:

Organic soil bed one
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Here is the burnt plant in soil bed two
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Soil bed three
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Group shot
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Bennyweed1

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Here is the HPS tent.

I topped dressed everything with a 10-12-05 bat guano. Some were starting to yellow more then my liking at this point. They look good and can not wait for them to start to swell. All organic as well. RO/DI with a bi-weekly guano, kelp, EWC, molasses tea.

They are 31 days into bloom

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