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Basement Buds in Bed

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Day 23 flower

Chuggin along...

CSI Bubba

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Sugar Puffs can see a little purple bleeding over to the leaves now...

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So I plugged in a cheap little humidifier outside one of the vents into the flower room yesterday. I was surprised the RH had bumped up almost 10% by lights out. And the temps dropped to about 75F. Same happening today, so I juiced up the lights by another 50W around midday. Temps crept back up to 77 and held there with RH around 56%. No additional sawtoothing or other stress indicators so far...

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Received the first of two recent seed purchases today...I'll be running the Chem D S1 in the next round, haven't decided on the Lemon Party yet...

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Topped both Bubba clones today. The MPK clone is only 12 days old and showing noticeable growth the past 3 days. She came out of the dome today and now under the 65W.

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Day 24 flower Canopy temp around 77, RH around 55% after the recent light intensity adjustment. No further signs of stress yet, will monitor and crank it up again in a few more days if warranted.

Sugar Puffs had a little runaway with her Blumat today. I loosened the carrot dial about 1/8th of a turn yesterday thinking she was a little dry. My friends were right, I'm dumber than a carrot! This is exactly why I bought them...I tend to overwater. Just leave them alone.

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Three Queens come on, fill those gaps!

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Thanks giz, I hope so!

I think VG's Bubba S1 has finally stopped stretching at 42" or so. Her tops are about 16" from the light, not showing a great deal of stress about it, either...for now...

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Don't know if I have any more vertical space, maybe a couple inches. I've got the light running at around 500W right now. She's putting out some good trichomes and going to stack weight I bet...

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Having to get creative with her original backup clone training while waiting for the new clone to root in the dome.

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Here's a crappy, backwards side-by-side showing the MPK clone on Nov 9th (R), then today Nov 21st (L). I've not had a clone grow so quickly before.

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40cm is way to close for me with 2 x 240w QB led. If you're any similar that's too close.
The good thing about the lux meter is not guessing on light distance, feels so more in control.
 

Rastak'

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Nice looking!!!

I never seen a grow with only on big square pot. Except for reproduction of landraces.

What is the goal?? Is some grass growing in it?? Do you put grass seeds?

I'm very curious about that. Sorry if you already explained earlier in the thread but I'm just arriving and I'm guilty to be a lazy guy who did not take the time to read all the thread :D
 
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40cm is way to close for me with 2 x 240w QB led. If you're any similar that's too close.
The good thing about the lux meter is not guessing on light distance, feels so more in control.

It definitely feels like a guessing game where I don't know by how much the light intensity changes when I bump it up or down 50 watts. Maybe I'll order one of those cheap LUX meters...

Nice looking!!!

I never seen a grow with only on big square pot. Except for reproduction of landraces.

What is the goal?? Is some grass growing in it?? Do you put grass seeds?

I'm very curious about that. Sorry if you already explained earlier in the thread but I'm just arriving and I'm guilty to be a lazy guy who did not take the time to read all the thread :D

Thanks for stopping by Rastak'... The bed's purpose for me is to maximize root space. There are actually 6 different types of cover crops in there, the grass you're seeing is Winter Rye. They all work together with the host plants to communicate about pests/diseases, and they help with aeration, nutrient uptake, and a host of other positive effects.

Obligatory bud pic
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Rastak'

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Very interesting!!

How did you have this idea? I know there are a lot of combinaisons in the nature but you indoor?
How do you feed them??

Very impressive...
 
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Very interesting!!

How did you have this idea? I know there are a lot of combinaisons in the nature but you indoor?
How do you feed them??

Very impressive...

I've seen and read about others doing this, just makes sense for my growing style and needs. I use KIS Organics Water-Only soil, so I don't really feed them, per-se... I've top-dressed with malted barley and KIS Organics Amendment Mix when necessary, plus some mycorrhizal fungi. Other than that, just add water (or in my case, let the Blumats do the watering).

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Day 26 flower I've got things pretty steady right now in the room; 77F 50% RH lights-on, 70F 55% RH lights-off. Keeping the RH a little higher right now since it seems to be helping with some minor saw-toothing and tacoing on a few of the tops. Lux meter should be here today, so I'll take some measurements and report back.

Sugar Puffs just can't help taking pictures of her...she has the largest buds and the red/purple colors are beautiful. She has the least amount of trichome coverage so far, though, it is still quite early.

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VG Bubba conversely, is the frostiest girl in here. I'm secretly wishing for 6-8oz of dried flower from her...

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I feel sorta bad for Three Queens... She's a beautiful plant, but I rarely choose pics of her since the others are more distinctive...she's not the frostiest, biggest, smelliest, or most colorful, but still a beauty.

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And one more shot of Sugar Puffs for the night...

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Got the lux meter this morning, same AP-881E as the video earlier in the thread (thanks Dots!). The clones are at 200-275 PAR (using conversion factor of LUX x 0.025). The flower room girls range from 375-650 PAR, in this order:

Mendocino Purple Kush - 15000 lux, ~375 PAR
CSI Bubba - 16000 lux, ~400 PAR
Sugar Puffs - 22000 lux, ~550 PAR
VG Bubba - 26000 lux, ~650 PAR
Three Queens - 26000 lux, ~650 PAR

Assuming 750 PAR is the highest I should go, I could increase the light intensity a bit more to give the shorter girls some better light. I might try that today, but need to keep a close eye out for signs of stress...

UPDATE: After increasing the light another 50W, I isolated just the light on the wall outlet power meter and it was reading 520W total. Here is the updated #s for each plants' top.

Mendocino Purple Kush - 17000 lux, ~425 PAR
CSI Bubba - 18000 lux, ~450 PAR
Sugar Puffs - 24000 lux, ~600 PAR
VG Bubba - 30000 lux, ~750 PAR
Three Queens - 30000 lux, ~750 PAR

Day 27 flower

CSI Bubba up close, it looks like her trichome stalks are longer than the others'. She's frosting up pretty good...

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Mendocino Purple Kush day 17, started showing some trichs of her own a couple days ago.

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Started noticing a couple of dark spots on the underside of VG Bubba's fans yesterday, no visible signs on top of leaf. Today, it has become apparent that she and Three Queens are both calcium-deficient. Just happened to have some freshly dried eggshells lying around, and a mortar and pestle... And it just so happened that those two plants' drippers were active right when I noticed the deficiency, so I sprinkled some pulverized eggshells under each distribution dripper to let it soak in. pH is 6.7 - 6.8 all around the bed.

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And some sparkly lights-off pics because I'm a cannawhore. I even edited these to turn down the exposure, and some still feel too bright to me...

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Fitzera

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I cant say for sure as I havent tried it, but I feel the eggshells will take too long to break down to help address the deficiency you're beginning to see. I could be wrong though so maybe someone with more experience can chime in
 

moses wellfleet

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I cant say for sure as I havent tried it, but I feel the eggshells will take too long to break down to help address the deficiency you're beginning to see. I could be wrong though so maybe someone with more experience can chime in

I recall something about eggshells soaked in vinegar for readily available calcium. A couple weeks in the vinegar maybe, never had to try it myself though!
 

Fitzera

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I recall something about eggshells soaked in vinegar for readily available calcium. A couple weeks in the vinegar maybe, never had to try it myself though!

I found this:https://www.gardenmyths.com/eggshells-do-they-decompose-in-the-garden/
Maybe @dank.frank can chime in
 
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I found this:https://www.gardenmyths.com/eggshells-do-they-decompose-in-the-garden/
Maybe @dank.frank can chime in

Thanks Fitz, moses... Maybe some dolomite lime would be in order, but not sure if I should apply that at 4 weeks flower...? I'm OK with ugly leaves this round as long as the impact on final flowers is negligible.

From that article above, "When the eggshells were ground very fine, they changed the soil pH and they added calcium to the soil.". I think I ground them up fine enough, there was dust floating up as I was shaking it onto the dirt. I wonder if dialing back the light intensity should be considered here to reduce the demand for the mineral? Just thinking out loud...

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moses wellfleet

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Thanks Fitz, moses... Maybe some dolomite lime would be in order, but not sure if I should apply that at 4 weeks flower...? I'm OK with ugly leaves this round as long as the impact on final flowers is negligible.

From that article above, "When the eggshells were ground very fine, they changed the soil pH and they added calcium to the soil.". I think I ground them up fine enough, there was dust floating up as I was shaking it onto the dirt. I wonder if dialing back the light intensity should be considered here to reduce the demand for the mineral? Just thinking out loud...

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I personally wouldn't use dolomite lime at this point.

I add gypsum, calcium sulphate, every run. But I'm not sure if it is fast acting enough for your problem.
 

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