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Barry Cooper-The Real Challenge
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pugnacious
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So I havent been really paying attention to whats been going on after the raid. Anyone have a status? Are any crooked pigs going down?
Julian: I noticed that too, seems he was only a cop for a couple of years and then started business and sold them as he says in one of his vids.
I don't begrudge him for making money, he just gives me the willies and I don't think he changed, just his business angle did. Most people will stuff their pockets if they know they will get away with it, so now he is attempting to cash in on his know how on police doing just that and other abuses of power... Now that he can not do it himself anymore!
He may also take pleasure in policing the police, seems like a wicked power trip almost like being a cop maybe?
I don't begrudge him for making money, he just gives me the willies and I don't think he changed, just his business angle did. Most people will stuff their pockets if they know they will get away with it, so now he is attempting to cash in on his know how on police doing just that and other abuses of power... Now that he can not do it himself anymore!
He may also take pleasure in policing the police, seems like a wicked power trip almost like being a cop maybe?
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I consider myself a fairly reasonable, and rational individual......
He is of course a very busy man, with many commitments......
But not to busy to ban someone....
He does of course have a lot of projects he is working on, and requires his attention.....
Aside of course from providing responses on his own web site that is...
Given the above I am sure he is well aware of the question posed.......
But then again, maybe an email is necessary......
Or maybe 50.......
Or maybe 100.........
Or maybe whatever it takes so that he address the most valid question asked of him?
It seems he is well suited for politics....Pursue your own interests, ignore questions posed.....
While there are many answers to the question, all of which might be acceptable, there is only one acceptable approach.
For all Mr. Cooper knows.....I might even be a friend, associate, or family member to one of whom he spoke of......
Or I may not.......
Or is it Mr. Coopers intention to simply collect from life that which he finds of benefit and disregard everything else?
I'm still holding off on my personal speculation, or trying, but, getting fairly close to making a determination as to exactly who and what he is, which is becoming quite obvious, isn't it?
He is of course a very busy man, with many commitments......
But not to busy to ban someone....
He does of course have a lot of projects he is working on, and requires his attention.....
Aside of course from providing responses on his own web site that is...
Given the above I am sure he is well aware of the question posed.......
But then again, maybe an email is necessary......
Or maybe 50.......
Or maybe 100.........
Or maybe whatever it takes so that he address the most valid question asked of him?
It seems he is well suited for politics....Pursue your own interests, ignore questions posed.....
While there are many answers to the question, all of which might be acceptable, there is only one acceptable approach.
For all Mr. Cooper knows.....I might even be a friend, associate, or family member to one of whom he spoke of......
Or I may not.......
Or is it Mr. Coopers intention to simply collect from life that which he finds of benefit and disregard everything else?
I'm still holding off on my personal speculation, or trying, but, getting fairly close to making a determination as to exactly who and what he is, which is becoming quite obvious, isn't it?
I will say that ignoring such a question posed following such a statement is not only disrespectful to poster, but to every member of site, every one who supports him, his victims and their families, and everyone who purchased his products....
A politician indeed.........self serving, disrespectful, disinterested, and crooked.
A politician indeed.........self serving, disrespectful, disinterested, and crooked.
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yamaha_1fan
his lack of response on that question has dropped my opinion of him highly. I have defended him here, probably not anymore.
That was a real good question Julian.
I can think of many reasons and answers but it would have been nice to hear from him.
That was a real good question Julian.
I can think of many reasons and answers but it would have been nice to hear from him.
He's a businessman, with a marketing niche.
What he sells does not disclose anything new, innovating, or ingenious.
What he sells does not disclose anything new, innovating, or ingenious.
Dr. Smokepuma
Member
no responce yet/
B.Grant
Member
Nice thread, Julian. Accountability is never a bad thing. Call'em like ya see'em! That being said I've seen his videos and there's decent information there. So, I'll use his info against him and his former cronies, to still do what I do best...in the end it's that whole screw me once shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me! (That's how you say it, Bush! That's how you say it! For crissakes man!) Anyhow, just don't give them a chance to rain on your parade.
drow
Member
I imagine him being one as well, and using the "im on your side" tactic to gain media attention for marketing.
I think the man is less important than his website. Have you seen the forums over there? It's all people like us who do nothing but share security ideas. I spent hours just reading the forums and have so many plans.
In regards to the question he has yet to answer... I know if someone asked me that I would have a very disappointing answer. I wouldn't think he has access to everything you would need to fix all that he has done. I know he doesn't remember these people's names because cops are like that.
I would like to believe that the people wronged should see justice, but does that ever happen? Rarely it does. Many people have pled guilty to crimes and that makes it tough to go back and change anything. The people who pled not guilty and were convicted, now there is something that might be rightable.
The issue here is he hasn't given an answer at all, though. So I guess no matter how disappointing the answer, he should atleast give an explanation as to why he can't or wont go into past cases. Or maybe he has tried to fix a case or two and it was a dead end. Ahh no use speculating.
Still, his forums on NGB are an invaluable source of info related to dealing with and protecting yourself from police misconduct.
GeneticHeirloom
Member
Hrmm I bet his forums are watched like a hawk, all these ideas and security hopefully don't make it easier after they've compiled the information.
Going to check it out though, probably some gems in the rough that can't be exploited by Popo.
I have, and actually, I think we have single threads here which provide more than his entire site....melvin2 said:
I found it quite amateur.......I can't think of a single topic there that superior info can't be found anywhere else.....
I have seen DVD's also, and was quite disappointed....(Nothing one couldn't readily find on OG 7 years ago,.......)
I think a good start for someone starting at sq. one.......but, most of us are far from....
I agree with all of the above and from the start stated an answer, period........regardless of what that might be.........maybe he can't, maybe he doesn't care...maybe he could, but didn't want the fallout......
I don't (didn't.....it's been established
) seek a specific answer...Just an answer. (To which frankly was far from an unreasonable question.....) I'm more surprised never asked, only asked once, etc....
I don't believe site to be a wealth of information.......from what I saw, just a bunch of newbie's.....couple cops, but didn't matter as wrong questions being asked anyway, so...moot point....
I didn't mean the dvd or anything cooper himself has to say when I said his website had importance....
I have seen things in that forum that I haven't seen here.
It's not just about grow security. We don't have many police at ICMag giving us inside scoop like they do. There are cops/ex-cops that post there who are sympathetic to our cause that answer questions.
I wouldn't discourage anyone from rummaging through some of those threads.
Everything I've found helpful came from either people with a link to something useful or a discussion about a particular situation.
Hell, I even thought about collecting some info and putting it here in the security forum. Some of this stuff is good for cops to know that we know. They get away with alot of shit because they bank on us not knowing anything.
I have seen things in that forum that I haven't seen here.
It's not just about grow security. We don't have many police at ICMag giving us inside scoop like they do. There are cops/ex-cops that post there who are sympathetic to our cause that answer questions.
I wouldn't discourage anyone from rummaging through some of those threads.
Everything I've found helpful came from either people with a link to something useful or a discussion about a particular situation.
Hell, I even thought about collecting some info and putting it here in the security forum. Some of this stuff is good for cops to know that we know. They get away with alot of shit because they bank on us not knowing anything.
I don't agree,at all.......and think it actually quite a poor excuse for a place which presents itself as offering something of use....
I haven't seen any.
(I have also looked through all declared LE's posts and found nothing which gave me a second thought......)
There is more information in single threads here than his entire site combined. There just is.......site is nothing but bunch of newbies and couple cops who really don't offer anything of substance......."I'll give someone a hard time who gives me a hard time" is not something of substance, or use.......
Anyway....all moot point....as is thread now.....
I've made my decision.....(which I deleted....something about self serving scumbag with no balls.....something like that...along those lines....
)
Anyone is free to make theirs....
I haven't seen any.
(I have also looked through all declared LE's posts and found nothing which gave me a second thought......)
There is more information in single threads here than his entire site combined. There just is.......site is nothing but bunch of newbies and couple cops who really don't offer anything of substance......."I'll give someone a hard time who gives me a hard time" is not something of substance, or use.......
Anyway....all moot point....as is thread now.....
I've made my decision.....(which I deleted....something about self serving scumbag with no balls.....something like that...along those lines....
) Anyone is free to make theirs....
