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Baltimore Police Dept's Secret Aerial Surveillance

resinryder

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Big brother never ceases to amaze.

From The Baltimore Sun-8/24/16

The revelation that a private company has been conducting secret aerial surveillance on behalf of the Baltimore Police Department — collecting and storing footage from city neighborhoods in the process — caused confusion, concern and outrage Wednesday among elected officials and civil liberties advocates.
Some demanded an immediate stop to the program pending a full, public accounting of its capabilities and its use in the city to date, including in the prosecution of criminal defendants. Some called it "astounding" in its ability to intrude on individual privacy rights, and legally questionable in terms of constitutional law.
Others did not fault the program but said it should have been disclosed publicly before it began in January.
Use of local foundation allowed Baltimore police surveillance project to remain secret
The program — in which Ohio-based Persistent Surveillance Systems has for months been testing sophisticated surveillance cameras aboard a small Cessna airplane flying high above the city — was first disclosed Tuesday in an article in Bloomberg Businessweek. The publication was given exclusive access to the company's testing.
The arrangement was kept secret in part because it never appeared before the city's spending board, paid for instead through private donations handled by the nonprofit Baltimore Community Foundation.
T.J. Smith, a police spokesman, confirmed Wednesday that the company had conducted 100 hours of surveillance in January and February and 200 hours of surveillance between June and this month. It will continue conducting surveillance for another several weeks before the Police Department evaluates its effectiveness and decides whether to continue the program, he said.
Smith acknowledged that the plane's cameras can record footage of 32 square miles of the city at any given moment and that its work had never been publicly disclosed. But he took issue with characterization of the program as "secret surveillance," suggesting there was no need for the department to make it public. He likened the program to an expansion of the city's existing CitiWatch system of street-level cameras.
"There was no conspiracy not to disclose it," he said. "We consistently go out and get ourselves involved in new technology, find different ways to bring that technology to Baltimore."
Others disagreed about the need for disclosure.
"I'm angry that I didn't know about it and we did it in secrecy, which is unacceptable," said City Councilman Brandon Scott. "We have to be transparent about it and we have to make sure that we're using it in the right way, especially given all of the things that have come out about the Police Department."
But Scott, who is vice chair of the council's Public Safety Committee, said he is interested in learning more about the program and how it could help address crime.
"I will say that one of the No. 1 complaints I get from citizens is that they want CCTV on their block," he said. "We have to get past the emotion, like I've done, and try to understand it. A lot of black people have asked for CCTV surveillance in their neighborhoods."
David Rocah, a staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland, was sharply critical. "The fact that the city of Baltimore thought that they could adopt it in secret with no public input is beyond astounding," he said.
Rocah said the technology is "virtually equivalent to attaching a GPS tracker to each and every one of us every time we walk out of our house or office building." Any assurance that the resolution of the footage does not allow for individuals to be identified is misleading, he said.
"The fact that you can't use the camera to identify a face is utterly irrelevant to its intrusiveness, because they can match that pixelated dot to a person — whether identified or not — going into and out of particular buildings," he said. "Even without other technology, that simple fact can be used to identify us."
Then, Rocah said, the surveillance footage "can be matched with the more than 700 street-level surveillance cameras that are already installed all over the city of Baltimore, particularly in the poorest and most African-American neighborhoods in the city."
He said the police should "immediately discontinue use unless or until the City Council holds hearings on this, and I would hope that the City Council would prohibit the Police Department from employing this kind of mass surveillance technology."
In a statement, Police Commissioner Kevin Davis said the technology offers coverage similar to CitiWatch for more neighborhoods and residents and has helped police in making arrests in several non-fatal shootings. "Having alternative solutions to problems is something our community expects of its police department in the 21st century," he said.
Davis added that privacy concerns were not lost on him and promised a "robust and inclusive community conversation" if the department decides to recommend the technology's permanent use.
Police spokesman Smith and Ross McNutt, the founder of Persistent Surveillance, said the cameras transmit surveillance footage to analysts on the ground who can review it in real time or after the fact, moving backward and forward through time to identify and track individuals and vehicles in areas where crimes have occurred.
McNutt said that "when people actually see it, they will be happy that Baltimore is doing everything they can to reduce crime and support the community." He also said the resolution of the cameras is such that individuals are not recognizable, limiting privacy concerns, and that footage is reviewed only in connection with specific crimes.
Smith said evidence from the program had been presented to the Baltimore state's attorney's office to obtain a warrant at least once before, but declined to say whether other city officials were informed about the program.
Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake became aware of it only "recently," her spokesman said, but he would not say when that was. She was "not briefed on the program at its inception," he said. But he quoted the mayor as calling the program an example of "cutting-edge technology aimed at making Baltimore safer."
Paul DeWolfe, the state's public defender, said he finds the surveillance program troubling.
"Widespread surveillance violates every citizen's right to privacy," he said. "The lack of disclosure about this practice and the video that has been captured further violates the rights of our clients."

State Del. Curt Anderson said he didn't have a problem with the police using a surveillance plane, but his colleague Del. Maggie McIntosh said the agency should never have implemented such a plan without getting public input.
"I never like it when any government agency moves ahead with a program without having public input," said McIntosh, like Anderson a Baltimore Democrat. "I have concerns about civil liberties and privacy. If the police are going to move ahead with this, we should stop and do the due diligence that should have been done before any contract was ever initiated."
State Sen. Catherine E. Pugh, the Democratic nominee for mayor, said she wanted to look into the program and learn why it wasn't disclosed to the public previously.
"I need to know more information," Pugh said. "We don't want anyone's rights violated. We don't want anything that harms the relationship between the police and community."
Alan Walden, the Republican nominee for mayor, said that the surveillance should have been disclosed but that he didn't view the use of such a plane as problematic.
"Our privacy has long since been discarded," Walden said. "It should have been disclosed before the fact, [but] I don't find it threatening in any way. It's another tool the Baltimore Police Department can use to do its job."
Joshua Harris, the Green Party nominee for mayor, called the situation "complicated."
"The public should have been alerted to this in advance," he said, adding, "Are we Google-mapping our way to solve crimes? Or are we invading people's individual privacy?"
Smith said the program was aimed at halting the horrendous pace of violence in Baltimore in the last year and a half. "We're going to stop at nothing," he said.
McNutt said his analysts had produced "investigative briefs" in 102 crimes, and were continuing to review footage around the times of violent crimes that occurred when the plane was in the air. Footage helped police identify Carl Cooper as the suspect in a shooting of a 90-year-old woman and her 82-year-old brother earlier this year, Smith and McNutt said.
Cooper's attorney, Margaret Mead, said the use of the technology in finding Cooper had not been disclosed to her by prosecutors.
"It troubles me a great deal," Mead said. "I understand that law enforcement has to do their job to locate people. But it's just as easy to start infringing on anyone else's privacy."
Anne McKenna, a visiting assistant professor of law at Penn State University and a legal consultant to the U.S. Department of Justice on aerial surveillance issues, said the new surveillance program raises all sorts of legal questions.
While there are U.S. Supreme Court decisions backing police use of certain aerial surveillance techniques, the nation's highest court has also restricted the ability of law enforcement to indiscriminately track individuals — an ability essentially given to Baltimore police through the surveillance footage now being collected.
"There's no question that the technology enables 24/7 tracking of someone from the minute they leave their house, as long as the plane can be kept in the air," she said. "Where is that data going and who has access to it and under what circumstances can it be accessed?"
A few years ago, McNutt had proposed using the technology in his company's hometown of Dayton, Ohio. Joel Pruce, an assistant professor in human rights studies at the University of Dayton, helped organize opposition to the effort — which was aired at public meetings.
"We met, and we basically asked for a meeting with the police and we had a series of discussions with police and the city's lawyers," Pruce said.
He and others were concerned about privacy intrusions, how the city would be using all the data it was collecting, and whether the surveillance techniques would disproportionately impact the black community, he said. The policies to govern the program that the city put forward were overly broad, he said, and officials declined to change the policies to address the public's concerns.
At the next City Council meeting, Pruce said, the issue came to a head as opponents of the program filled the chamber. The city manager withdrew the proposal.
Pruce said McNutt was very clear about his public defeat there.
"I'm just going to go to another city," Pruce remembered McNutt saying.
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Skip

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I don't find any of this surprising. I believe this technology is already in widespread use, just not publicized.

If you watched Person of Interest, you'd know how easily they can pull together different sources of data including video and facial recognition.

As technology advances it gets so much easier to spy on us, and that leads to more control, more intrusion in our lives, simply because THEY CAN.

If they can do it, they will do it. Of that you can be certain.

This will lead to ever more social control of our lives, a la 1984/Brave New World.

BTW, most of the technology concepts in those two books has already been surpassed.

All it takes now, is the willingness and incentive to use it all for social control.

Just wait for the Robocops! Perhaps they won't be so paranoid that they have to shoot first (until they get hacked!).

I suppose it's a GOOD thing when used properly, like any tool. Lots of ppl out there who need to be off the streets. Real criminals are finding it harder to get away with their acts. Certain crimes are disappearing, while others, like cybercrime explode.

It seems every tool that can be used for good can be used for bad. So all this spyware and malware in the hands of bad actors, be they hackers, foreign agents, stalkers, criminals, even your neighbor, can be used against you too.

BTW, yesterday I watched a big 747 flying low and slow. Above it was a lone fighter jet. I figured it was either a hijacked plane or you know who, paying a visit to SF yesterday... :) Seems he was viewing the recent burn areas.
 

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The last Sheriff of Clark County Nevada, namely Las Vegas, admitted in a newspaper interview that they were "working" with the air base in Indian Springs, just outside of Las Vegas, with aerial surveillance. This was about 5 years ago or so. I've seen the drones flying around Red Rock as have others.
For those that don't know, Indian Springs is where the drones that launch attacks in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other places are carried out.

BTW Skip. I loved Person Of Interest. Shows what the gov, or privately funded groups/companies can or may be capable of doing. LOL< My dad always told me I was a "conspiracy" nut. Until his car sent him a letter in the mail telling him his car was due for an oil change. He asked me how it knew. After I explained the on board computer and what it could do he was bewildered. That was a great day and it kinda opened his eyes to the surveillance network in place. Hard to convince a 80 something year old Southern gentleman about anything until they see it first hand. He's changed a lot in the past several years. haha
 
Ive seen a predator drone flying low like it was about to land at the base in wheatland (I was in Oroville) in broad daylight...got compliance checked 2 days later. Coincidence? The cops just laughed and one said it was something else when I asked about it...I forget. Now I'm left wondering what really happened. They were for sure flying cessna stingrays hard though daily. Back and forth. Low and slow directly above my spot as early as 7:30am. This shit makes me sick.
 

resinryder

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Give it a few years and the new generation that already doesn't give a shit about government intrusion will see it as just another part of daily life designed to keep them "safe".
 

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the new generation that already doesn't give a shit about government intrusion will see it as just another part of daily life designed to keep them "safe"

"Sure if you have nothing to hide why worry"
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Slipnot

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Can only imagine the surveillance there doing daily high tech mission impossible stuff like that were not even aware off .
Home land sec at its finest
 

Betterhaff

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Next time you’re stopped at a red light intersection, look up at the fixtures. Around here there are cameras on most pointed to snap the (traffic). I’ve always wondered, am I paying for that? Especially out in the middle of nowhere.
 
Im sure you would be paying for the trapwire program, if your city was running it, using those cctv to recognize your face every single time with 97% efficiency.

The highway patrol in this state records every license plate/vehicle it passes so they pull up all those images when they're behind you. The DEA filters thru the data for "drug runners".
 

Betterhaff

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The highway patrol in this state records every license plate/vehicle it passes so they pull up all those images when they're behind you.
Via onboard/outboard cameras? The locals here have them and they drive around parking lots. The info is relayed back to a central and if it marks flags are sent out.
 

resinryder

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The highway patrol in this state records every license plate/vehicle it passes so they pull up all those images when they're behind you. The DEA filters thru the data for "drug runners".

Same thing here. Standard operating procedure. They know where you are as soon as you arrive in Vegas and as soon as you leave. They have the readers on their cars, bridges, and other places. Keep in mind that for whatever reason, a lot of times people commit serious crimes in other states and decide fuck it I'm going to Vegas. They get here and before long they are featured on the evening news. Been going on a while.
 
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All of this stuff is "for our own good". The gov't can pull up license plate data from up to several years ago and figure out where you've been, who you were with.... Insane. Also the satellite/drone resolution is good enough to see blades of grass. The digital files are recorded on to 10x10 inch color film, then printed up to 10x10 feet in size.
 

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They can probably track you if you happen to have one of those chip credit cards with you.

Cell phones well that's a no-brainer. Place the phone on your dog in a harness so they think your still at home.

People should all start wearing balaclavas when walking. :laughing:

Then they would pass a law against that too.

I know one person who stared at a video camera for a bit too long.
Eventually they sent police to ask him what he was doing. LOLZ
 

Green Squall

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Privacy is a thing of the past. This first article is from earlier this week.


BOSTON —The Department of Defense, in conjunction with local and federal law enforcement agencies reminds residents that low-flying aircraft are part of an ongoing training exercise, police said.


Boston police issued a reminder after several people called authorities, concerned of the low-flying aircraft in Boston.


Police said the training is not in response to any current world events.


The training runs through Friday.


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BOSTON —Government surveillance planes flying high above Massachusetts: It happens more than you might think.
Watch the report


Using a publicly available website, 5 Investigates tracked government planes over the past six months, finding them above cities and towns all over the state, often flying in circular patterns.


The planes drew the attention of viewers, who asked 5 Investigates what the planes were doing.


"This flight spent hours circling over (F)oxborough...what are they doing? who are they looking for?" one viewer wrote in an email.
A viewer in Lynn, who agreed to be interviewed on the condition he not be identified, had similar concerns.


"Is it taking pictures of everyone? What is going on with it?" he said to Five Investigates' Karen Anderson.


Many in Quincy had a similar experience in the weeks after the Marathon bombings when a low-flying plane was frequently circling the area.


Quincy City Councilor Brian Palmucci fielded numerous calls about it.
"I had the same questions everyone else had," Palmucci said. "Is there some sort of threat to the area, are there precautions we should take?"


The frustration didn't end when residents learned the planes were watching Khairullozon Matanov, a friend of the Tsarnaevs.


"The FBI knew they were following him, he knew they were following him, but the only people they were keeping in the dark were the residents of the city of Quincy," Palmucci said. "It's frustrating."


Last summer the Associated Press tracked FBI surveillance planes for one month above more than 30 cities in 11 states across the country.



The planes were registered to 13 fake companies.
Who the planes are following, and the technology they're using, all questions the Boston office of the FBI wouldn't discuss, instead pointing us to a statement from headquarters.


"It should come as no surprise that the FBI uses planes to follow terrorists, spies, and serious criminals," FBI Deputy Director Mark F. Giuliano said in the statement.


Just how closely guarded the details of the government surveillance program are is evident from the extent of the redactions made to a 2012 Department of Justice Inspector General's report on the program. Even the number of aircraft in the program is redacted.


The public did get a rare glimpse recently of aerial surveillance in action when the FBI released video of the fatal shooting of one of the armed occupiers at a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon.


The FBI also admits it flew over protests in Baltimore last year after prisoner Freddie Gray's death.


"We should know a lot more about how the FBI is spending our money spying on us," said Kade Crockford, director of the ACLU of Massachusetts' Technology for Liberty Program.


Crockford said the ACLU does not oppose aerial surveillance but is concerned there is not enough oversight of the program, including its use of invasive technology like cell site simulators, or Stingrays, that collect some bulk cellphone data.


The FBI said that technology is rarely used from planes.
"We know that these flights happen routinely, there's probably one happening right now somewhere in the United States," she said.
 

resinryder

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Also the satellite/drone resolution is good enough to see blades of grass. The digital files are recorded on to 10x10 inch color film, then printed up to 10x10 feet in size.

I won't say what I did in a previous life but lets just say i saw sat photos of a place i worked around 20 years ago and there were 3 friends standing outside the building. They took several pics and in the final one not only could you identify who they were you could read the word Marlboro on the cigarette pack in my friends shirt pocket. Couldn't believe it at the time.
 
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