Bagseed Bonanza

[funkervogt]

Various bagseed! - looks like 2-3 different phenos (1 Indica dom, 1 to 2 Sativa dom)

Setup
- 1st week of flower
- Newly installed 250 W HPS, 8 additional supplemental 26 W CFL's
- FoxFarm line of ferts. During application sometimes but not often Ph balanced
- 190 CPM Exhaust

The quick and dirty
These plants are old, like 2 or 3 months old. They lived under only a few 26W CFL's for the first few weeks. I added more and more over time and they began growing much faster. I don't have a picture of the setup, but they are essentially 2 bathroom bulb arrays hung by chains.

The plants underwent a lot of stress early on in life after a mishap with a fan. The original lot was 12 plants, 5 died at seedling due to the aforementioned fan issue, 1 male was pulled recently. These plants have been repotted 3 times.

I add ferts every other day in very small amounts. It is all foxfarm gear. Guess who recently discovered PH balancing? Yeah, started balancing to 6.0 a few days ago when feeding. I don't PH balance the regular water they are fed.

I resisted purchasing the 250 HPS because it just adds so much more complexity to the process. It was installed a few days back. Hortilux bulb and all that action.

All in all the system needs work but is coming along well. Heat, light and air seem to be relatively well balanced considering the constraints. Any input is greatly appreciated.

 

[spaceghost22]

Nice, they look healthy. Keep it up!

 

[funkervogt]

@spaceghost - Thanks for the kind words Unfortunately, their not as healthy as they look

Wk 2 Flower

Week two is going strong. I'm seeing a whole lot of white hairs on the bud tops.

I've had a continuing issue with brown spots/yellowing on two plants. It could be many things; one person thought micronute lockout due to Ph imbalance, which I think may be the case. I discovered my tap water was at PH 8.0 which shocked me, so I started Ph balancing all of my water to 6.5 and flushed all the plants yesterday.

I'll reintroduce nutes in a few days. Hopefully the more sensitive of the bunch will snap back, but if not I still have 3 healthy ones. Glad I found out about that tap water 8.0 Ph situation. Grrrr...

My lighting setup is a a bit of a mess and I'm going to introduce a proper/more fire proof setup this weekend.

Any comments/suggestions welcomed and encouraged!

 

[spaceghost22]

Hmmmm, when you say week two do you mean something like day 8 or day 14? Reason I'm asking is because I'm on my 10th day and my buds don't look quite as fat as yours. Those are looking good... maybe supercrop to bring all of the branches to the same level? I just did it tonight. 2 or 3 branches of 8 and 10 were dominating height-wise.

 

[funkervogt]

Hmmmm, when you say week two do you mean something like day 8 or day 14? Reason I'm asking is because I'm on my 10th day and my buds don't look quite as fat as yours. Those are looking good... maybe supercrop to bring all of the branches to the same level? I just did it tonight. 2 or 3 branches of 8 and 10 were dominating height-wise.

14 days on the dot. Some buds are looking much better than others, but I agree, they look prematurely fat. These girls were in veg for a reallly long time, though, and preflowers were popping up over a month ago, so I dunno...

I use string attached to the pots to hold the branches apart. Given that I need to move these ladies in and out a lot, it seems like a better solution than SOGing. I hear yah when you say they should be at the same level, which they more or less are, but I don't like to supercrop or top. I supercropped that really stringy one you may see in the wide shot but that bitch just keeps reaching. Argh!

It's a daily struggle The good news is I have mucho vertical space to play with and lots of supplemental light, so I'm not too concerned at the moment.

Thank you!

 

[spaceghost22]

I'll betcha your sativa dom is going to taste SUPER NICE. I think one of my two females are a sativa dom as well. I would expect that these types of plant are going to be a little longer to flower than the indicas. I'm planning on at least 10 weeks. I'm going to chop a little earlier though as to reveg and then clone whichever is most kick butt. I may just do both! Anyhow, here's a new pic of my plants... supercropped!

 

[funkervogt]

God your plants look so nice. The proof is in the pudding with supercropping, but I just can't smush the little girls' arms!

I am actively following your thread to see how those girls turn out. I think your banzai plants are the way to go. Letting these girls get so lanky was a mistake because I have so much trouble getting to them now for maintenance/feeding.

Bagseed people gotta stick together!

 

[spaceghost22]

Bagseed people gotta stick together!

Yes we do. It's nice to have someone else who's as inexperienced as myself doing a grow. You and I are pretty much at the same stage although you're roughly a week ahead of me.

You said that bonsai is the way to go, and I agree. I didn't do it the traditional way though... I was supposed to be flowering CLONES from them, not the mothers themselves. I do want to try the reveg thing though, so this seemed the way to go. I'll get to see what my clones will be like, both how they taste and how they grow.

FYI, I'm following you're grow too. I still say that you're plants don't look bad at all... If you could see mine while standing here next to me you'd see what I mean... they aren't as healthy NOW as they were a little while ago. They are becoming root bound. I have to feed with a 3% hydrogen peroxide mix every time I water, if I don't they really start to look like poop. If they survive the reveg I'm gonna chop the roots again (EDIT: We're supposed to remove rootmass along with the flowers as the diminished top only requires a dimished bottom. I assume any excess would mold over time?) Next time I'll know to flower AS SOON AS THE ROOTS START GROWING INTO THE NEW SOIL. What I did was let them establish some roots then flower, now they are becoming root bound quickly... The root mass seemed to stretch like the tops did. The containers are almost double the weight they were while vegging. IT'S GETTING TO BE A NIGHTMARE. I don't want to loose ANY bud what-so-ever. If I want to grow again before spring I'll have to harvest a zip at least.

Are you expieriencing a yellowing of the plants? I'm thinking I'm not giving enough N... but I just want to make sure this isn't normal before I increase ANY nutes.

 

[Dr Dog]

Hmmmm, when you say week two do you mean something like day 8 or day 14? Reason I'm asking is because I'm on my 10th day and my buds don't look quite as fat as yours.

This is 14 days 12/12 for me, not that unreasonable

Anyways, nice grow you got goin, plants are looking good. I will be back to check on your buds

Good luck with your grow

 

[spaceghost22]

This is 14 days 12/12 for me, not that unreasonable

Anyways, nice grow you got goin, plants are looking good. I will be back to check on your buds

Good luck with your grow

That is so disheartening... I thought my buds were doing alright... Now I know they aren't. Oh well, next time I will be more prepared to meet her demands.

 

[Dr Dog]

That would be pollen Chuck

Here is that bud at 7 weeks

 

[E.C.Hope]

nice, 3 plants = special attention... always a good thing

 

[funkervogt]

@E.C.Hope - I'm starting to consider it more and more as I move into the next week. The plants with issues (really only 2) are taking up way more space than they will likely produce. The problem is one of them is growing just sick buds considering. I may just exile them to the back of the garden where they get less of the HID light, more floro suckage.

@spaceghost - I he's growing a strain that's tailor-made for phat budness and trichominess. Don't feel bad! You're working with bagseed You're ladies look fiiiine.

@Dr. Dog - That is sick!!!

Tomorrow I'm going to hit them with a big dose of Bloom formula as they look potassium starved in some areas. Issues with the plants persist despite flushing with 6.5 PH, introduction of micronutes.

Here they are at 17 days. You can see the poo poo plant below. Notice the spotting on the larger leaf - it's not getting any better, blargh!

 

[spaceghost22]

UPDATE!!!

 

[spaceghost22]

Hey Funk, I think you should post about 26 more times so you can receive PMs. You need 50 posts before you can work with them. Yeah, anyway... I was going to PM you but I guess I'll have to wait a bit, eh?

@spaceghost - I he's growing a strain that's tailor-made for phat budness and trichominess. Don't feel bad! You're working with bagseed You're ladies look fiiiine.

Thanks bro. I'm sure yours will surprise you!


NOW HOW ABOUT AN UPDATE!!!!????

 

[funkervogt]

@spaceghost - OMG, you're hilarious dude!!!

22 Days Flowering

I arrived home after Christmas with the folks to find some surprises - good and band.

On the good side, the plants all look healthy with the exception of the poo poo plant, which has become worse. In the case of the poo poo plant it is producing quite a many buds! I think it might very well be worth the trouble.

On the down side, my other plants aren't producing nearly as many hairs/buds. My second favorite plant is quickly becoming my least favorite plant It might just be genetics: taking longer to flower than the others. It might also be that they are just not genetically inclined to produce as much as they are bagseed! Oh well, I'll take what I can get

More pictures.

 

[spaceghost22]

Sweet, thanks for the update man! I think most of those plants are sativa dominate. They will most likely take an extra while to finish. I don't think our plants are as similar as I thought. They look good though! Keep it up, up, UP!!!!!

 

[funkervogt]

Thanks dude. I think you're right about the majority of them being sativa dom. The biggun I believe to be Indica dom simply because of it's compact, high calyx-to-leaf ratio. I think i'll be reveging the bigger guy, giving it a few weeks, and blowing it out before ordering some proven genetics.

 

[spaceghost22]

Thanks dude. I think you're right about the majority of them being sativa dom. The biggun I believe to be Indica dom simply because of it's compact, high calyx-to-leaf ratio. I think i'll be reveging the bigger guy, giving it a few weeks, and blowing it out before ordering some proven genetics.

Right on brother! Have you read the article on reveggin in my sig? Heck, if you want some good reading, check ALL of those links.

If I'm thinking right about this I'm fairly sure were going to have to do a flush before adding the Grow nutes after flowering. It would be a shame to kill the ones we wish to keep by nute burn.

Please, let me stress the hydrogen peroxide mixed with the water. I use 3% hydrogen peroxide at roughly a 10% ratio to water. This has cured the curling of my leaves (mostly). I highly recommend both this and the black-strap molasses. Both of these items have worked WONDERS for me so far. The thing I like about both of these items is that they can be both be bought from almost any grocer.

If anything please try the peroxide, it's only $1 a bottle (give or take, and take into account the area where you live).

I may be rambling, I don't know. I've had a few beers tonight... and I'm still drinking one now! Glug, glug, glug..... AHHHHHHHHHHHH! BEER!

Yeah, so keep on rockin in the free worrrrrrld, Funk!!!!!

 

[spaceghost22]

God, those first two buds you posted up there look SWEEEEEEEEEEET. So much HAIR!!!! Sativa sounds nice! They LOOK nice!!!!