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Bad purple?

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MicroDude

Have a look at the pics the purple slowly creeps into all my strains. I grow in soil. I dont think I have a ph issue. My run off always comes up good. Any help to diagnose and how to correct? I have read through so many sic plants looked at pics and always come to the conclusion that this looks like many different issues to my inexperienced eye.

 

b8man

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What strain is it? A lot of blueberry crosses have naturally purple stems.

Saying that, it looks like you've got a nitrogen deficiency. What are you feeding them?
 
M

MicroDude

Its California hash plant. It also showed up in my diesel ryder which does get purple. And I think I see it in the road runner. =\ I am using FF big bloom once and tiger bloom every feeding. If it is a nit def how can I correct it?
 
M

MicroDude

I am feeding according to the schedule on the bottle. The tiger bloom I am using 60ml per gallon and the big bloom is 30ml per gallon. You think I need to up the ml?
 

b8man

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Red stems can be a sign of Mg def too - but the yellowing of lower leaves indicates you have N def. At the very least i'd increase your N a bit. The yellow leaves won't recover, but after a week you should see sign of improvement.

I think i've had purpling stems because of generally too low levels of N+P+K. So how much FF and Tiger Bloom are you using, and how old is the plant?
 

b8man

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I don't use those nutes, but seems like a lot to me. Usually the instructions on the bottle are higher than required.

It's possible something is being locked out. I'm going to bow out of this and let someone using the same nutes as you chip in.
 
M

MicroDude

It's possible something is being locked out. I'm going to bow out of this and let someone using the same nutes as you chip in.

This is what I was thinking. I am at a loss of how to fix it. Its a clone that has been in flower since 10-30. Thanks for your :2cents:
 
M

MicroDude

Now that I think about it I never did get any FF grow big on the mother. She has been in flow since 10-30 also. She shows signs of the same thing slight coloring near the bottom but not near to the degree of the clone. I will try a healthy dose of the grow big on them both and see if it perks up. Or should I go buy some guano?

If anybody else wants to give me there :2cents: Id love to hear it.
 

Lorenzo

Member
wait...60ml/gal? i think you are reading something wrong. the fox farm feed chart is two TEASPOONS per gal of tiger bloom which is about 10 ml.

if you were feeding 60ml/gal, were you testing the pH of that solution? a solution that strong would probably be very acidic as well, depending on your water quality.

http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf
 
M

MicroDude

I went what is on the back of the bottle. I did mix up the amounts in the previous post. its the big bloom I added 60ml. On the back of the bottle it says 4 tablespoons(60ml) gallon for every watering. The tiger bloom was 4 teaspoons (20ml) per gallon for heavy feeding. So should I be using that other feeding schedule? I dont think my plants show signs of burning. But they are telling me something.
 

Rainman

The revolution will not be televised.....
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It could also just be a trait of your plants. I have grown many grows where some had purple stems and others did not. Even the same strains. If your plants look healthy otherwise that could be it.
 
M

MicroDude

I have tried to find some other pictures of my HP (on the web) but cant find any show the stock. My HP clone that has the extreme coloring seems to be getting a bit droopy.
 

pineappaloupe

Active member
I have the same problem, it drives me nuts. I should take some pics. I get purple striping on the stems first, then it goes purple, deep purple. The growth stunts. I have been growing the same strains, schrom, sweet skunk, bubba, for 5 or 6 grows now, and run into this.
My soil is Promix HP, cut with 10% EWC or so. I ammend with the fox farm bloom when i transplant for flower.
I doubt your problem is genetic.
I gave schrom cuts to a friend, who ran out of space and gave them back after 1 month. There was no purple, the fan leaves were bigger, over all the plant was healthier. And they were only under 50w of t12s, compared to my 600W of t5s.
I dont need to feed schrom and sweet skunk in veg until they are big. When i do I feed light with EJ grow. I have also used Aurora organic, and soul synthetics. When i used the synthetics I never got the purple so much...
I pH my food, and the water I water them with.
The best crop I ever had, I was filtering the water through a brita, and also recycling the AC water. I am starting to think that something in my water is messing with N and P uptake. I have signs of N over dose... leaf tips claw down a bit.. and I dont over feed at all. I swear.
I suspect my water, which comes out of the tap with a high pH. I am buying an RO unit soon. I will figure this shit out.
 
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MicroDude

sounds the same my plant has stunted also. I have given it a dose N. If that doesnt work im going to try a new water source. I have tap water and well water. I let my tap water sit out 24 hrs. Not sure how its treated.
 

deviant1

Member
I am really new to all this, but ime, I found that water is a very big factor. I'm only on my fourth grow, but I used tap water that sat out for a day or two then used. I started this grow and had alot of issues early, red stem just one small problem, the thing is that I switched water. I switched my water from tap, which was good tap water, to R/O water that I found at walmart. I had red stems and now that I use r/o, the stems are clearing up, and turning back green. So I beleive it's the water for sure, use good water and you have happy green plants, and not any red stems. I hope this is helpful, and is jus my opinion.
 

Insomnius

New member
agreed^^
i had a similar problem, its a deficiency or blockage i believe...it hit me hard on a giant bubblegum plant mid flowering, it didnt make it afterwards...yours looks pretty rough...you might have root problems as i did-really it was water problems (very hard cave water)and it stopped moving nutrients to the plant...maybe try using bottled water...it what i do now seems to help me alot with what u have there


best of luck bro
 

jyme

Member
oh no its a nitrogen def. for sure and purple stems means several differnt def. but those leaves are yelowing and thats a key sign of (n) def.with out (n) production of chlorophyll and amino acids will slow and they are needed for photosynthesis if your not flowering her yet she needs to build up as much as she can in the veg. stage this dif.will slow her growth and if not treated she will stop growing all together the damaged growth wont recover but all new growth will show no new signs and her stem will stay purple
 
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