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lulzz

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yeah, i would go for fim rather than topping, you can see the diff here, 2 same plants in same conditions

and yeah, fish mix stinks like rotten apeshit, dont spray it on your plants :D i did the same mistake and it took 1 week for the smell to get off
 

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The_Core

Which technique is better for keeping the plant the shortest. I am thinking to do LST so i can just flower this one in the Propagator tent....
 

Greenlife1

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I would try to FIM, then lst.
You will not get much stretch with the T5's in flower.
Plant is lookin healthy.
I would watch out on using that biobizz after a day of so..anaerobic bacteria defiantly will be on the rise fast. Better off putting a air stone in there if you got one.

Yeah ill get a pic of my T5's, an plants when the lights go on. I have 3_4 bulb 4' t5 units. I usually get them to 18" or so under them before i move them.

If you have room to hang a wet towel in there; that will help raise your humidity a little, without having to add a humidifier.
 
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The_Core

I would try to FIM, then lst.
You will not get much stretch with the T5's in flower.
Plant is lookin healthy.
I would watch out on using that biobizz after a day of so..anaerobic bacteria defiantly will be on the rise fast. Better off putting a air stone in there if you got one.

Yeah ill get a pic of my T5's, an plants when the lights go on. I have 3_4 bulb 4' t5 units. I usually get them to 18" or so under them before i move them.

If you have room to hang a wet towel in there; that will help raise your humidity a little, without having to add a humidifier.

Thanks GreenLife1! I will hang a wet towel from the cross bar. I will add an air-stone to the reservoir as you suggested.

My PPMs going into my soil was 330 and coming out was 440. What do you think about that? My size plant, 3 weeks old, 330 PPM x500 scale. What do you think? Do you think I should water with BioBizz every watering or alternate some way? I hear some people that water 3 times a week go full strength PPM then water just plan PHed water the next 1 or 2 times. And I see that some reduce PPMs and water with nutrients everytime they water. What do you think about this?
 

Greenlife1

Member
I think what you fed is right on. I would feed everytime you water. i have ran about 5-6 rounds with biobizz. the stuff breaks down/used pretty quick. i would just keep an eye on her, an slowly bumb the food as she grows.
With your run off being that close to going in is nice. shows its using whats there....makes me want to see my run off....havent check in years!
I am running 600's, an what i have noticed with biobizz...at least in my grows is that it takes about 100 ppm for every 100 watts of light in flower.
600 hps= about 600-650 ppm in flower. under your t5's I'm sure you will use less. You can push them pretty hard with the nutes an they will except it, but defiantly don't need it.
I'm using(for flower) Bio bizz..grow, bloom, topmax, sweet(botanicare). Was using Molasses till 3 weeks flower.
 
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The_Core

My leaves seem real dry and brittle I have a small air king fan blowing on my plant. You think it's causing my plant to have this issue? It seems to effect the older leaves.
 

tleaf jr.

Came up off 75w
Veteran
yea sometimes if you point the fan directly on it it'll dry a lil too fast you just want the leaves to have a nice subtle movement to them like a sway in the breeze lol ....looking good though when you thinking about making the flip?
 
T

The_Core

Hey tleaf jr. Thanks for the advice. I didn't think a small air king clip fan could move enough air to dry my leaves out but it looks that way. Right now its lights off and I put a wet t shirt in the tent to raise the RH. I am going to FIM or TOP and then LST. Then make the flip. Its staying real short right now. I am crossing my fingers that everything will be ok with my plant, i fed today at 330 PPM of biobizz and tap water PHed to 6.5. We will see.
 

Greenlife1

Member
Sounds good. yeah a little bumb in the humidity with help out alot. if you can get it so that the fan hits that wet t-shirt too that will help bring the humidity up a little faster.
 
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The_Core

I have a wet t shirt in the bottom of the grow tent with 2 fans circulating air, tent is sealed. Should raise the RH. Hope it helps. It was 30% its at 45% now, Trying to get to 60%. That should help the leaves recover faster.
 
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The_Core

Update 31 December. Magnesium Deficiency. Sprayed with ALG-A-MIC and a couple drops of SuperThrive. Nice foliar soaking. Should do the trick and be back on track in no time. Last feeding was yesterday at 330 PPM, Not enough, plant is still light green with no sign of burning. Next feeding will be a total PPM of 500-550
(tap water 90ppm + biobizz 400-450 PPM = 490- 540 PPM. Thats a good ppm for mid-growth. I am on week 3+. Let me know what you think!

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The_Core

Ok so I repotted my plant in a 2 gallon grow bag with fresh dirt and watered it in with tap water 90 ppm and a heavy dose of algamic to fix the magnesium deficiency. The leaves are dropped as the plant is no doubt in transplant shock with a magnesium deficiency. I am going to see how the next few days play out. I am starting to lose hope in this plant. Its growth is very very slow. The leaves were heat stressed and now a magnesium deficiency and transplant shock. If this plant does not start picking up I am going to chop it up for clones, put into my oxycloner and from there just go right to flower. Screw it.
 

Greenlife1

Member
You are gong to be fine. droppy also form over water..
Give it a couple days. Here is a quick shot of my half ass veg area.
But you can see I dont have the plants super close to the bulbs.
There about 12-15" away. I think its a hair to far. I don't like being more than 12" but there doing good.
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The_Core

Thanks Greenlife1. My plant seems to be in decline. The soil is good, the water is PH adjusted. Its not over fertilization and not over watered. Temperature and humidity are fine. No insect problems. I just cant get this plant to perform well. Looks like I am having a magnesium or calcium deficiency. I gave a heavy dose of algamic but it did not correct the problem. Not sure what to do. I think I will Top of Fim today. My plant just passed the 3rd node.


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tleaf jr.

Came up off 75w
Veteran
:tiphat:looking good core don't worry some plants are just a little more difficult to dial in she still looks nice just keep rising your amount of nutes until she starts to make a turn around don't get discouraged though growing isn't as easy as you thought huh lol
 

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