At it again. Purple Basterd sub thread, Cheese F2, Blue Mystic and White Widow

[Core]

They'll be alright core. Just hang in there and take the great advice these guys are giving you.

GCG

i hope so GCG ...these plants are a part of my live...lol
and yes i will take any advice of these peeps ....i trust them....

hello core
well bro i hate to see you having a problem so early in this grow, but hey buddy dont be too hard on your self shit happen to all of us....it always takes longer to see problems develope when growing in soil and the same gos for seeing any results from trying to fix a problem....always always look to the new growth for the answer to wheather or not the fix job is working.....the damaged part of the plant WILL NEVER get better its done for, so over the next few days those part start looking worse (and they will) dont freak out only get worried if your newer growth is showing signs of problems...

now on the E-salt Question you ask, E-salt dose NOT break down like table salt.....putting it in warm water and then smashing it with the end of something is the best, get it all desolved BEFORE putting it in your mix....if you DO NOT do this what happens is the undesolved slat cystal fall to the bottom of your mixing container and as the liquid level drop that remaining liquids gets saltyer and saltyer and by the time you feed/water your last few plants with this mixture you will be unknownly killing them.....ummm i hope i said that clear enough for you to understand the point of desolving the E-salt before putting into your mixture....
peace bro

yea i know shit happens but..i just had two happen when i woz not home two monitir the girls like i'm used 2....i know no pain no gain..or somethun like that shit....
yes you told me that damaged leaves never recover but i saw no improvement in the new growth thats when i decided two transplant...
i'm still under impression that after that fllush the feeding and that pinch of Mg to the the 10 L bucket turnd them for the worst ..again....
i'l keep a close eye on them for the next few days.....

and for that Esalt.....i'm not gonne use that anymore untill they show a Mg def..and then i will disolve first in warm water

thx for everythun guys...

 

[Guest]

core it will be ok....most people go overboard trying to correct something...end up making it worse....you replanted so regroup your thoughts and rework yor feeding schedule.....you should always be a student of this hobby....if you never failed you wouldnt know what not to do....stay safe and breath...

 

[Guest]

core it will be ok....most people go overboard trying to correct something...end up making it worse....you replanted so regroup your thoughts and rework yor feeding schedule.....you should always be a student of this hobby....if you never failed you wouldnt know what not to do....stay safe and breath...

Core HF said a mouth full there^^^. Listen to what he says. Chalk it up as a learning experience. Now the next time this happens you'll know what's wrong.

GCG

 

[Guest]

AGREED

 

[Core]

hurricane, GCG and jaws ...thx friends ...you guys are right...
Q
but i need to ask this.....f
in theory....if i have soil lets say around 5.7 ph and i add tapwater (8.0) that is reduced to 6.4 with sufuric acid or lemon juice....wil the soil go up to 6.4 or wil it go down because i add acid in the water???

srry im asking this i 'm doubting myself and i'm sooo stoned..i'm in a thinking fase i realy want to get t the bottom of this...

 

[Guest]

Core the first thing you need to do is get some PH up and some PH down. Stop trying all of these home made remedies. The lemon juice is way to unstable and using sulphuric acid to balance PH is crazy in my book. For a few bucks you can get PH up and down. They are a lot safer.

Now to answer your question. You need to set the PH in your water where you want it. Then water the plant or soil in question until water runs out the bottom. Test the PH in that runoff water and you will see for yourself what the answer is. There is no 1 answer you have to do the testing yourself.

GCG

 

[Guest]

I agree with cgc....just dont let sproutco hear ya on the sulphuric acid....lol...seems he likes it...seen 2 many of his 2600 plus post since may talking about it...i'm going to play nice now...stay safe and good luck core....17+ yrs growing and I still am just a student...

 

[Core]

i have that ...but ph - (K)and ph + (P) are nutrients and acid 2 i believe???.....and i did't wanne f**k around with there feeding...

and i'm only asking this because i tested it with the flush and stayed the same ..thats why i am so confused right now

sproutco said that sulfuric acid least interfears with the nutrition...i frist dilluted it with plain water before adding two the water....
i believed him....

and it seems i better not test it right now ..i toke some soil just from 1 pot added demineralised water and it read 5.85 ..... i'm baffeld
gone test them all in the morning...
all i did was water with 60 ml ph balanced water 6.4 with lemon juice...
and the soil supposed 2 be between 6- 7 it just came out of a fresh bag of plagron batmix

 

[Guest]

where does it say ph up and ph down have k and p....never heard of that in my life...not saying i'm right but I dont think i'm wrong.....what kind is it

 

[Guest]

Core you are right,but I think it's better to give them a little more P and K than trying these other methods.

I use Pro-Tekt by dyna Grow for PH up. It is a silica based solution that helps with heat stress and strengthening the plants stems. Ask jaws he'll tell you all about it.

I am just more comfortable using these tried antrue methods rather than experimenting with something new. Either way it's up to you? when i first started growing there was no internet and i had tp learn things the hardway. I still am as a matter of fact.

I'm just trying to save you some grief
GCG

 

[Guest]

well I guess you learn something everyday..never heard such a thing...oh well I did say I was just a student

 

[Guest]

ok after further searching I found info on half the question...says most ph up is made of "Both pH up and pH down come in liquid form. pH down contains nitric acid at roughly 38 percent strength and pH up contains potassium hydroxide at roughly 50 percent strength......wouldnt ph + have nitrogen then....glad I learned this

 

[Guest]

HF my pro-tekt is Potassium silicate. It is made up of 3% soluble potash. So I don't think it would have N in it? Don't quote me on that though.

I use this because of the benefits of the silica as well as PH up. 5 mls with my nute solution with RO water usually puts my ph between 6.2-6.4.

Nice disscusion. Sorry core.
GCG

 

[Core]

i woz so affraid 2 lose my baby's ...anyway i folowed sproutco's advice http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=31294&page=1&pp=15&highlight=sulfuric i hope you can see why i did this.....

i will use ph- and ph + next time but wont it mess up my ppm readings


@ hurricane

yes they are nutrients ..at least mine are ...they are from canna
ph- has 59% phosphoric acid in it
for ph + Kaliumbikarbonat 20% Kaliumhydroxid 33% Kaliumoxid (K2O)

and ...i though i woz promoted 2 student after my first grow ..but it seems that i'm still a newbe now i meest it up lmao

 

[Guest]

Hey core they will add to your ppm, but when you get it dialed you will know exactly how much nutes to add and how much PH+ or PH- to add to make everything come out where you want it.

It's all part of the learning curve. I never stop learning and i never stop screwing my plants up.

GCG

 

[Core]

hahahahahha ok i copy that...still a long way ahead i realise...i wont be thinking to go ebb and flow soon lol

 

[Guest]

Hey Core by the way i started that bay area clones thread almost a year ago. It grew it's own legs and i rarely post on it any more. Scrappy 420 and a few others run it now.

It has kind of turned into a bitching thread anyways.

GCG

 

[Guest]

hello core
buddy buddy buddy your shooting your self in the foot my friend, your making this far far to hard on your self....

your problem is trying to follow sproutco advice, HE'S not wrong in his advice to you the problem is he knows what hes doing and what hes talking about (no disrespect intended) but you do not and your trying to follow something you do not understand......you can have the best teacher in the world but if you can not comprehind what he/she is teaching you then it does no good to listen.........


i can see those BIG words your throuwing around and thats some of the problem as well, to me that shit is just jibberish and i'm sure it is to others....again not trying to piss you off or embarrass you my friend you know im not like that...but dude you for real need to back off all this head shit and make this easy on your self.....

lemon juice, batmix, ppm this ppm that your growing in soil the only thing you need to keep in check is the PH of the liquid you put INTO your soil.....and yes its good to know all that shit but for you NOT RIGHT NOW brother not right now......

follow your fert layout GET some PH up and some PH down and again i dont care what the PH is of your water, mix your ferts in your tap water then test then apply the right amount of up or down and feed the plants....its that easy you just have to get something that works and then work from there...all these fancy things are messing you up big time, short cuts never pay off i see your finding that out now.....
peace bro

 

[Guest]

Well said Jams Just thought I'd trow that one in there.

GCG

 

[Guest]

hey garrlicc
one of these days too the moonnnnn my friend ..
hahaha