Appeals Court says No Banning Dispensaries in California Cities

[Oldmans_Herbs]

Essentially, you have the ruling correct. However, I feel that the ruling may possibly be used as a legal basis for challenging possibly any zoning ordinance that declares cultivation, storefronts, collectives or cooperatives per se nuisance.[/quote]
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so.. does this mean that cities that did not allow collectives will now allow them?

 

[Corpsey]

Payaso, why two threads in different places? im trying to follow along but they both have same titles and some of same people posting.

great info though. sea maiden knows her shit

NOTE: the two threads in question have been merged into one thread.

 

[bbing]

Essentially, you have the ruling correct. However, I feel that the ruling may possibly be used as a legal basis for challenging possibly any zoning ordinance that declares cultivation, storefronts, collectives or cooperatives per se nuisance.​

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so.. does this mean that cities that did not allow collectives will now allow them?[/QUOTE]


Perhaps down the road but the ruling will be appealed along w/. several other cases..My guess is it depends on the cities motivation to kick, drag, scream and fight all the way


Oh yeah, and the other half of this ruling appears to be in a tent by the state to the keys federal prosecutors buy egg knowledge ing that product cannot be transported to or from the facility ( trafficking). That way it doesn't leave the facility until the patient takes it protected under 215.

 

[Hammerhead]

but when you have 100's of plants growing that puts you on the feds radar ...

 

[headband 707]

Perhaps all the info about the white matter in the brain has now been released and the feds realize they are way out of their league with all this. They CAN NOT win if this goes to court they are just getting as much money out of everyone as they can with proves what asshole they really are. This is info feds/you paided for BTW headband 707

 

[Mirage]

@Sea: Is your group planning to use the Lake decision to go to your local superior court to get the ban overturned?

 

[bbing]

Why can't we get permits for a treatment clinic...none of the cities business what "treatment modality" is selected as long as it is in compliance with hhsa code. On site cult per pt. (outpatient). No dispensing per se, but clients engaged in a treatment activity can leave w/215 protection. No retail..no trafficking no diversion. Clients Engaged in treatment activities are protected under state and federal laws. they would be both collective members and patients. Patience can pay fee for service. additionally because it is a treatment service the treatment modality methodology to be employed without discriminating against patients rights. Individualized treatment plans become medical records.

 

[kmk420kali]

You and I are in 100% agreement on ALL of the above. Let me snag a paper for you real quick here....

Here we go: http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/58/3/389.full

It's titled "The Endocannabinoid System as an Emerging Target of Pharmacotherapy"

Ok, I am going to apologize now for sidetracking this Thread...but I just kinda have to vent here--
Firstly...I would change the title of that article to, "The Endocannabinoid System as a Re-emerging Target of Pharmacotherapy"--
The Medicinal effects of cannabis have been explored, and known for Centuries!! Nothing new there--
We all know, that Harry Anslinger...along with Billy Hearst, BOUGHT the initial Prohibition against cannabis/marihuana...as both racially motivated...but more so as a stepping stone to further Mr Hearst's use of trees as the number 1 resource for paper--
But if it was that, of it's own...this would have died out quickly, as did alcohol prohibition--
But between 1937 and the mid 50's, it should have been over-- But...in the 50's, the unthinkable happened...a CURE for Polio was released!! But Big Pharm then realized that there is no $$ in curing diseases...only in treating them--
I also think, that long about this time, that Researchers were concentrating on Cancer...and made the connection between cannabis and its many therapeutic properties...including the ability to reduce cancerous tumors--
Keep in mind, I am no Conspiracy Theorist...so I won't go so far as to say that they traded Polio (via vaccines) for Cancer...but I will say that they knew cannabis could very well be the path for a cure for Cancer--
Fast forward to the early 70's...when the puppet of the moment....er, I mean President Nixon, declared outright war on cannabis...I don't think it is a far stretch to think he might be a Big Pharm mouth piece at this time-- (Follow the $$)
But in conclusion...from the early 70's to the present day...there is NOTHING that our Government has fought against harder...than any kind of cannabis legalization!! Despite the present day statistics of well over 50% of the population being in favor of legalization...they are fighting harder than ever to keep it from happening--
So...Cannabis is PROVEN to help reduce cancerous tumors, help with pain management, appetite stimulation, sleep aid, and so many other things that I cannot list them here....but still, they spend TRILLIONS to keep it illegal--
Sorry for the rant, I'm just over the lies from our "Leaders"-- Fuck 'em!!
To get back on track to your post, SeaMaiden...have you checked out Granny Storm Crow's List?? https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=153865
Peace, and well wishes--

 

[kmk420kali]

but when you have 100's of plants growing that puts you on the feds radar ...

BINGO!! But hundreds will not sustain any Dispensary....more like thousands!! So, then we start jumping through hoops...and get it down to what they want...Collectives with only a dozen or so Members...but because of the number of Patients...that will mean there will be tens of thousands of Collectives popping up....BAM!! New Headlines..."Marijuana over runs State!!"
We can't win this fight...they make all the rules--
Legalize for Recreational Use!!!!

 

[SeaMaiden]

Essentially, you have the ruling correct. However, I feel that the ruling may possibly be used as a legal basis for challenging possibly any zoning ordinance that declares cultivation, storefronts, collectives or cooperatives per se nuisance.

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so.. does this mean that cities that did not allow collectives will now allow them?

That is my hope. Even though I personally don't use, have never used, any type of storefront or collective, I know folks who do, who must, who have no other choice.

 

[SeaMaiden]

I'm familiar with Granny Storm Crow, yes.

@Sea: Is your group planning to use the Lake decision to go to your local superior court to get the ban overturned?

We haven't formulated such a plan at this time yet, no. We're still waiting for other decisions, want to see what shakes out as is yet to come before we make another move. What might make more sense, and again it's still in discussion stages, might be to move for a referendum. If we can get enough signatures we might be able to simply force the BoS to overturn their own ordinance, which they can do at any time, as well as amend it at any time.

 

[RAGGA MON]

then the black market goes crazy again, price goes back up, and they have to deal with all the fall out of that, and so do patients.

Very true indeed.......
One of the unfortunate spears of deception (yet seemingly strong one) we have to fight against are the "out of sight out of mind" mentalities of most of the sheep.....they really believe they have solved the problem when they cant see it.

 

[kyndone]

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Oh yeah, and the other half of this ruling appears to be in a tent by the state to the keys federal prosecutors buy egg knowledge ing that product cannot be transported to or from the facility ( trafficking). That way it doesn't leave the facility until the patient takes it protected under 215.

this makes more sense to me, than having to truck it from somewhere risking transport problems.