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Apollo 13

BlackBart

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The Apollo 13 F4s are my bro Mendels work . He's been MIA for about a year now and nobody seems to be able to find him . We both did some work with Mota awhile back. My contribution was A- 35 A afghan from over thirty five years ago that I have .

Mendel used multiple males and females in his making of his F 4
 

Cannavore

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The Apollo 13 F4s are my bro Mendels work . He's been MIA for about a year now and nobody seems to be able to find him . We both did some work with Mota awhile back. My contribution was A- 35 A afghan from over thirty five years ago that I have .

Mendel used multiple males and females in his making of his F 4

Were the A35 crosses unsuccessful, Bart? Been looking for them but I never saw Mota release them.
 

Cannavore

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just curious what the lineage/relationship to mendel/mota
to subcools variety is..

Grew subcools a while back and was some kick ass shit..

wish I would have save her...

I remember mota from O.G.

Also had some of his herijuana before it went down and that was
kick ass shit also.... but again lost it..

see a pattern of a loser...????

aw well so many seeds so little time.. :biggrin:

Subcools is out crossed and back crossed
Mendel's/Motas is an fgen of the original


Be cautious if you guys are buying these from the farm. They took my money and sent me jack shit.
 

BlackBart

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Mota passed out quite a few crosses with the A-35 Chem 91 x A-35 and others. It was mostly a preservation thing we were doing . I have hung on to 3 or four strains in my 40+ years of growing ...I wish I had done more . Peeps are always asking for the A- 35 and my Allagash indica because of the stability they offer .
 
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197caregiver

For the ones asking about what a13 Subcool used it was Mendels stock he used for his vortex and apollo bx... Mendel was asked by subcool for some to do his work and Mendel not liking sub as many dont told him he has to buy them like everyone else so thats how sub got his seeds ... Ive recently got a ton of them from mota and am working them into f5s the same way they were worked before with differnt male phenos and females and then an open polination so all phenos will still be in there including the gorilla arm which are pretty easy to find in them. I have found on average out of every 4 females a gorilla arm was one of the phenos but the main phenos found was the one subcool used which was the dog poo which sub calls it baby poo but either way its def a dank poo smell pheno that i along with all my patients love so she will always be in my garden along with her mate i chose ;) i have a keeper male so i can keep making f5s that will keep atleast the pheno i like going but will have f5s of the open polination seeds fresh here in a few months ;)
 

symbiote420

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^The truth, but he did want some of mendel's beans but when he asked mendel told him he had to buy a pack if he wanted them lol ...I loved to hear that!! I've been lucky enough to be blessed all those unreleased A-35 crosses, Bubba, Chem 91, Orange Chemo, Strawberry Cough, & Chem D!! Mad respect BlackBart that A-35 has proved to make some helluva hybrids bro!!
 

Dkgrower

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Back again, so i finally got time to try the apollo out this year..

i spouted all my 10 seeds of apollo 13 and they all sprouted 100% germ rate, the same happend with 10 orange bud from dutch passion. They have all perfect growth and no mutations or freaky sprouts.

Now sensi seeds, 10 super skunk, only 5 and they all look shitty exp 1.
10 skunk no 1, 7 sprouted but again alot of freaky sprouts
10 doubbel gum, 100 precent germ rate and they all look good.

still the same shit with sensi, now i had to sprout more seeds to make up for sensi's shitty germ rates and will have a few that is behind the others, pain in the ass.

So brother mendel did a fine job, looking forward to see them in action under the sun.

@Cannavore, (1 year later) thanks for sharing the info from mendel.
 
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197caregiver

My bad ... I heard from mota himself that he had to buy them but he prob also heard that from a unreliable source then again I've cought sub in a few lies also but ohwell lol i always take what I hear with a grain of salt unless I know myself the truth... Either way it's def one of my old favs and I've got them up to f8s and there still killing it but I did as mendel did and did open pollenation to keep them from being bottlenecked like I do with all my oldies seed stock ;)
 

nukklehead

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off topic but you guys seem to know mota/mendel..

Have a few genetics ( wont go into detail) that claim to have
some of motas work in them from Irie vibe...

Any truth to this that you know of??

Thanks
 

idiit

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^^ I think I have the following correct:

the guy from irie works out of france (at least that's where my iv beans were mailed from). he knows mota and iirc is kinda an offshoot of some of mota's genetics. I bought a couple of aww hybrids from iv. mota had the genetics but according to a post from mota on another forum there were several breeders who chose to no longer work with the aww male used by iv. @@@@@@@ shop has some forums where iv stuff is discussed.
 

nukklehead

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^^ I think I have the following correct:

the guy from irie works out of france (at least that's where my iv beans were mailed from). he knows mota and iirc is kinda an offshoot of some of mota's genetics. I bought a couple of aww hybrids from iv. mota had the genetics but according to a post from mota on another forum there were several breeders who chose to no longer work with the aww male used by iv. @@@@@@@ shop has some forums where iv stuff is discussed.

some others with mota genes (????)>>>> blazing pistilerros...
I have a nice lemon thai that i keep.. that may or not be related
to some of those genetics..... but claim they are.. dont really care
good stuff...
thanks idiit..
 

symbiote420

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Irie and Blazing Pistilerros were part of the Mota Militia.... a group of growers/breeders that also included Hazeman, Gage, and Matt Riot.... and yes they all shared the same genetics.
 

idiit

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i'm done reproducing stash's a-13. he has reported that some phenos from this seed stock produced buds that were very potent and psychoactive. the buds in the seed run were quite potent. terps were citrus ( mostly sweet/tart lemon types). good resin. very little indica influence; mostly skunk dom with some hazey looking phenos.
 

TheMan13

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This thread got me recalling that Mota gifted me a pack of his Apollo 13 F4 at the Michigan High Times Cup last year. I'm thinking it's time to pull them out and give them a go :)

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trinityalps

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Apollo has always been one of my favorites. Got an original pack and have been collecting other's along the way. Wonderful genetics she plays very well with others. Crossed them with the original Space Queen years before Subcool. Called it Tripping Space Queen. Popped some of the beans that Mendel gifted me awhile back, hopping to introduce them to my A13s.

Good to see other Apollo fans out here. :)
 
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