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BIOJenn

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classifying a certain bloodline of pit bulls as game bred dogs is different then saying a certain one dog is game. being game and being game bred is two different things.! just as a hard dog is different then a game dog etc

american staffs, staffbulls and bully are not APBT..because they are not bred down from gamebred lines and are mixed bred and outcrossed...the very first of the real pitbulls are game bred..not each and every dog being game just game bred.. staffs,bullyies,amerstaffs have very little if any gamebred bloodlines in them!! no need for pissing matches here its about the dogs

eather way i like bullies,amerstaffs,bullstaffs,bulldawgs,rotti,shepards and patterdales!
 
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Big V said:
My dog Hacksaw would run headfirst into a badger den and pull out a badger by the head. He never blinked at an injury or had a thought of quiting. He never backed off or hesitated in his adjenda to kill that badger. Thats Game. He was a Carver/Tudor outcross for those of you who know.

I gurantee you one thing... This Dog is as "Game" as they come... Just look at the muscle structure on this dog. This dog is in peak physical condition.
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patterdale terriers are bred to go head first into badger holes and other vermin such as raccoon etc. it goes with out fear and does not back down and no other dog in the world does it better then the patterdale terrier yet...it is not considered Game!
dogs going in head first, no quit, they lack other skills/moves/holds and dont always come out on top. i always thought it was "CUR"?
muscle structure conditioning doesnt meen a dog is game or game bred.
 
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nice bully shot:joint:
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whiskeytango420 said:
Agreed...Its like Chem#4 and ChemD...both Chems, but one bites A LOT harder;)

But a true AmStaff and an APBT standing next to each other, I see 2 dogs...
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agreed. apbt amerstaff and staffbulls all stand side by side are 3 differant dogs each bred down their own way for disired traits. staffs and amerstaffs are known to be more people protective and more likely to bite a human and apbt are bred down from game lines and are very freindly to people yet are more likely to bite another animal.
 
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BIOJenn said:
dogs going in head first, no quit, they lack other skills/moves/holds and dont always come out on top. i always thought it was "CUR"?
muscle structure conditioning doesnt meen a dog is game or game bred.
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Kur means coward simply put. A dog that won't scratch. There is also a diffrence between being game and haveing the skill. Skill can be tought. Mike Tyson was Game but he had to learn how to harness that to become a deadly fighter. That is where a skilled handler comes in.

True, muscle structure doesn't make a dog game thats no doubt I was just showing the conditioning of a true American Pitbull Terrier. These fat, overweight Bully Breed dogs are not even close to the true physical standards of the APBT. That is why they have to hold their own shows, because ADBA or UKC will not place them. They wouldn't last 5 minutes against a dog that was bred according to original breed standards.

Again, I also love the big bully dogs but people need to be honest with themselves according to the types of dog they own.
 
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chuckyoufarley said:
i love that you didnt chop thier ears and tail up
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I agree, I like my dogs to have their ears and who the hell bobbs the tail on a Pit?

I have had dogs with cropped ears but they were cropped before I bought them, I always leave the ears.

Back in the day they cropped them so they didn't get ripped off in a fight but we don't fight our dogs so why chop their ears.
 
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I thought this was an Interesting story about a legendary dog. Hope you all enjoy the read.

Jimmy Boots vs Benny Bob Jan 1973

Jimmy Boots vs Benny Bob
Willie Brown vs Dale Brandstrom
Males 52 vs 53 Cajun Rules
Ref Bill Petsie

The Texans had arrived the night before by plane. Willie Brown, Halliburton, Carver, Hall, to name a few and joined by Freddie Jones and Indian Sonny. The fans from Utah came with their entire families. Mr G has about ten kids himself, I think. Ed Weldon from Colorado along with them, totaling 20 men per side. Benny Bob is weighed at 53lbs, washed and enters the pit after the toss of a quarter. Brown waits in the pit while The Man from Utah Mr G brings in Jimmy Boots. The weigh in finds him over the weight of 52lbs by a mere 2oz BUT is over the weight. Texas decides to claim the forfeit as well they should, but The Man from Utah says... I still have 13min before pit time to make the weight and he hurries into the house. Returning within the 13min it was heard he led the dog to a tree and then wiped the wet sand and mud from his dog's feet and tail. Jimmy Boots is weighed...on weight.. Good going Mr G,,Halliburton says. The fight is on. Jimmy Boots is washed and enters the pit, and Pit Your Dogs. Bets by the hundreds are called and accepted by both sides of the pit.
These two dogs are more evenly matched than any other two dogs I have ever seen. They swapped stifles, shoulder holds, rolled, bit noses, and literally ShipWrecked each other the first 35min. Mr Carver says.
A lot of encouragement from both sides. The scratching starts after a turn is called while both dogs are rolling after each other. Jimmy Boots to scratch,,,handle,,completed, more fighting, each dog is on top then on the bottom. I think Jimmy Boots is the harder biter, but Benny Bob seems to be able to reach in there no matter what hold Jimmy Boots takes. First one scratches, then the other. A count of how many times was not recorded, but no doubt about both these determined animals going accross. One hour fifteen min approximately, finds Jimmy Boots has lost the use of hisback legs from those crushing stifle holds, and on a scratch by Benny Bob the legs collapse, letting Benny Bob on top, crunched into a corner. They go to mouth fighting. Hard biting even now. Benny Bob loses a top cutter with Jimmy Boots chewing from the bottom. Looks like Texas is ahead now. A handle can only be made by Willie Brown as his dog is on top and they remain bunched into the corner. Time goes by as both dogs chew out their holds. Both handlers congratulating each other on the tremendous dogs they both have shown. One Hour Thirty,,the handle,,as The Man from Utah sees them free of holds. Brown picks up from the top and a leg dangles in front of Jimmy Boots, and he goes after it and grabs hold. Brown lets go again and this gets Jimmy Boots out of the corner and on top of Benny Bob,and he starts working. Handle,,scratch by Utah,,,fighting,,,handle,,,a scratch by Texas. One Hour Forty finds Jimmy Boots taking the top position. That Man From Utah can sure put one up, someone from Texas says. Shake the Bear Mr G tells Jimmy Boots and he shakes. Benny Bob laying out of holds now but trying to take a nibble in the rib cage every time Jimmy Boots shakes the shoulder, but he is completely exausted and critically hurt. Everyone thinks Benny Bob can never make his scratch now,,,then both dogs boil up on their feet together in holds. More fighting,,handle,,Benny Bob should never be able to go,,OVER HE GOES,,handle,,Jimmy Boots crosses. He bites in with that fire in his eyes,,,using the energy he should save to live with,,,handle,,Texas goes again although weak on his feet,,handle Jimmy Boots scratches,,handle Benny Bob lunges from the corner, but loses momentum half way over and is counted out 20 sec count. Its over,, Ed Weldon with Jimmy Boots and The Man from Utah the winner in two hrs and 5 min.
 
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BIOJenn said:
classifying a certain bloodline of pit bulls as game bred dogs is different then saying a certain one dog is game. being game and being game bred is two different things.! just as a hard dog is different then a game dog etc

american staffs, staffbulls and bully are not APBT..because they are not bred down from gamebred lines and are mixed bred and outcrossed...the very first of the real pitbulls are game bred..not each and every dog being game just game bred.. staffs,bullyies,amerstaffs have very little if any gamebred bloodlines in them!! no need for pissing matches here its about the dogs

eather way i like bullies,amerstaffs,bullstaffs,bulldawgs,rotti,shepards and patterdales!
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BIOJenn said:
agreed. apbt amerstaff and staffbulls all stand side by side are 3 differant dogs each bred down their own way for disired traits. staffs and amerstaffs are known to be more people protective and more likely to bite a human and apbt are bred down from game lines and are very freindly to people yet are more likely to bite another animal.
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Manson is going after ANY animal, and god help it if he catches it. But he LOVES people, everytime he comes back in the house, he finds baby tango and check her out, kisses her ONE time...and goes about his business. APBTs abck when they were fought, the owner had to be able to grab his dog outta the pit without getting bit. SO HUMAN agression has been intentionally bred out of APBTs. Which is why its also rare to get a good schutzhund APBT.

Anyhoo.....I started this thread for APBT lovers....but there is NO reason it cant be a bully thread. Id change the title if they would let me.
we gotta stop piss matching over differnces of opinion, and jsut stay on tract . talk about our love of the breed.(s)

good vibes
 
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Phillthy said:
there is absolutely no difference between apbt and staffs. now if you want to talk style then that is one thing. all staffs come from pit bulls registered with the akc. nothing added to them. they are just pit bulls by a different name.
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sorry Phillthy thats not correct staff started to be bred for show/ and a crude and skeewed view of conformation back in the 30's. that makes most of todays staff stock a complete waste to the sporting foundation of the dog not to include the ridiculous paper hanging. 100+lb pit bulls hahahahaha.

since then they have become two different breeds. i will say they have a few game staffs out there but a better way to say it is there are few game staffs out there. lol

in addition i could tell you nightmares about the paper hanging that goes on in the paper dog world for the most part. you may not like being told this or you may find it to be of great value. but so you know before i hear feedback let it be known i have forgotten more about these dogs then most will ever know.

OHGEE- now scratch.
 
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outkastt said:
All my dogs are dual registered UKC/ADBA...the AKC does not recognize APBT as a breed, but they will let you register the dog as an am staff, but that just doesn't seem right to me......confuses things......have a good one...peace...O.
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yeah and now the greenwoods are paper hangers as well so you can count on the numbers of those big cur dogs growin and growin. fuck the ADBA

OHGEE - that dog weighs a lot
 
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burnedout said:
She looks like a kissing machine..Amirite?
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LOL, you got it spot on. She would drown you with her kisses if she could (just so you'd stop moving, so she could continue licking).

She has no drive what-so-ever, if her brother doesn't get her into it, she would kick it on the couch all day.
Now he is a complete different story.
 
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BIOJenn said:
american staffs, staffbulls and bully are not APBT..because they are not bred down from gamebred lines and are mixed bred and outcrossed...the very first of the real pitbulls are game bred..not each and every dog being game just game bred.. staffs,bullyies,amerstaffs have very little if any gamebred bloodlines in them!! no need for pissing matches here its about the dogs

eather way i like bullies,amerstaffs,bullstaffs,bulldawgs,rotti,shepards and patterdales!
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completely incorrect.. An Amstaff has NEVER been crossed or mixed with any other breed. I don't know where you got that from. They were "created" if you will from taking certain APBT's and breeding them for a different purpose, mainly as show dogs. That is why people argue over if they are the same breed or not, because while technically they are a seperate breed, they are still nothing more than APBT's that have been selectively bred.
 
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To be quite honest, I could care less what breed my boy is. He picked me, not the other way around, it was totally fated, I was meant to be his daddy. :)

All I know is he's loyal to a fault, is game as f**k, SUPER smart, and would die to protect my son and I. He's my best buddy and is absolutely the best dog I've ever been a parent to! :)





 
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