Anything outdoors 2019 !!!

[pipeline]

Sweet! Plants are off to a great start! The native vegetation looks good, are you sure you can't amend the soil and pop a couple in the ground? you may be surprised how they do!



A couple of those plants have pretty good size already! Are you still getting tons of rain or did you switch over to heat and widely scattered showers like we did? Should be getting more heat and above average precip in the 6-14 day climate forecasts! Stay tuned! Going to top dress this weekend and see how they did after the ditch. I bet they're moving with this heat. Its been upper 80's the past couple days, and it will stay hot through july 4! With afternoon broken light from the walnut tree, the plants do well in heat at pipeline gardens!

 

[gumzgi]

i got a question , my plants are in a field of sunflower and the farmer i cant belive how the fuk he came and spraied now the sunflower when its kinda big , all my plants got yellowin in tops . its there a way to save this or i lost everything ?

 

[pipeline]

i got a question , my plants are in a field of sunflower and the farmer i cant belive how the fuk he came and spraied now the sunflower when its kinda big , all my plants got yellowin in tops . its there a way to save this or i lost everything ?

Not sure. See if you can figure out what was sprayed. I would re-plant immediately. Got to plant on the edge of the field where they're not spraying if possible!

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Before you plant always look for signs of the spray. Yellow weeds or grass in the midst of young plant rows or on the edge of the field. If all that stuff is green with no yellowing, it hasn't been sprayed yet.

Here's an example of spraying. The yellow is easy to spot and makes for a premo planting spot.

 

[gumzgi]

i dont know what spray they use i think its the same from the cornfields. i have planted in corn like a month ago and i got devasteded like a row of 100 flowers got sprayed too and died all, TychoMonolyth the field of sunflower till now was black green and still it is , only where i got the row of flowers all tops are yellowin , i think its lost all ?

 

[gumzgi]

that spray i see dat dont affect corn and sunflower and there are some kinds of herbs they support dat shit ; sorry for my english

 

[right]

i got a question , my plants are in a field of sunflower and the farmer i cant belive how the fuk he came and spraied now the sunflower when its kinda big , all my plants got yellowin in tops . its there a way to save this or i lost everything ?

This pesticide is designed for food , it's supposed to break down after three days .Doomsayers would have you believe it is cancer with no evidence.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Chances are high that it's roundup. I'd just replant but that's me. You could take scissors and chop the tops. Best case, they'll be bushier and not as tall. If they're going to die anyway...

 

[gumzgi]

i used to grow in this 2 fields for like 6 years in row and dats 1st year when they spray dem farrmers.. ima gonna chop the tops and see what happens i cant replant they to big ,thank you for opinions

 

[pipeline]

What do you guys think about residual herbicides like Atrazine?



I have a lot of runoff going through the plot, but its going through a filter area about 20 ft wide or so.with grass, trees and brush. I would like to keep the plot organic as possible.

 

[pipeline]

https://www.ewg.org/enviroblog/2017/08/atrazine-harmful-weedkiller-taints-tap-water-millions-us


Atrazine: A Harmful Weedkiller Taints Tap Water for Millions in U.S.

By Olga Naidenko Ph.D., Vice President, Science Investigations and Sonya Lunder, Former Senior Analyst

Tuesday, August 29, 2017


Atrazine, a widely used agricultural weedkiller that disrupts hormones, contaminates tap water supplies for about 7.6 million Americans at potentially harmful levels. But the federal government is doing little to counter the threat.
EWG’s Tap Water Database, based on water tests by public water systems nationwide, shows that in 2015 atrazine was detected in more than 800 systems in 19 states at levels exceeding a health-protective guideline. The annual average atrazine level did not exceed the legal limit set by the federal Safe Drinking Water Act in these systems, but that level is 20 times a non-enforceable public health goal determined by California state scientists.
High levels of atrazine were found in 237 water systems serving more than 3 million people in Texas, and in 192 systems serving more than a million people in Kansas. Other states struggling with widespread atrazine contamination of drinking water are Kentucky, Missouri and Ohio. To see if atrazine contaminates your tap water supply, search for your local water utility in EWG’s database.
Atrazine, manufactured by the agro-chemical giant Syngenta, is one of the most heavily sprayed pesticides in American agriculture. EWG's analysis of data from the U.S. Geological Survey and the EPA for 2014, the most recent year available, found that most of the 70 million to 80 million pounds of atrazine used each year are sprayed on corn during the spring. The highest levels of atrazine in tap water are detected in May and June.
In 2012 Syngenta settled a class action lawsuit brought by water utilities with atrazine contamination for $105 million. The settlement money was distributed to communities with the most contamination, but for many systems even this was too little money to cover costs of long-term water treatment.
Atrazine has been banned in Europe since the 1980s under laws that prohibit the use of any pesticide that contaminates drinking water. But in U.S., the federal government places few restrictions on its use.
Atrazine harms hormones in people and wildlife
Tyrone Hayes, a biologist at the University of California, Berkeley, has found that atrazine can cause male frogs to become “functionally female,” or hermaphroditic. In humans, atrazine disrupts the male and female hormone systems.
Recent studies of American communities with atrazine-contaminated water associate exposure with increased cancer risk, shorter pregnancy and altered menstrual cycles. These studies examine people drinking water with atrazine concentrations well below the federal legal limit of 3 parts per billion, or ppb. A part per billion is about one drop of water in an Olympic-size swimming pool. In contrast, scientists at the California Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment determined in 1999 that atrazine contamination of tap water above 0.15 ppb increases the lifetime risk of developing cancer.
Federal atrazine rules fail to protect young children and the developing fetus
The EPA's monitoring data for 2014 show that some Midwestern communities experience atrazine spikes in the spring and summer at levels well above the legal limit. In 2014, atrazine concentrations in 18 communities exceeded the legal limit of 3 ppb, sometimes for weeks. For example, atrazine contamination peaked at 32 ppb in Blanchester, Ohio, from May 5 to June 9, and at 21 ppb in Beloit, Kan., from June 9 to July 7.
The EPA monitoring program targets water systems most vulnerable to atrazine contamination. The systems monitored change from year to year, which can make comparison between years and analysis of trends difficult. The EPA has not yet released data for 2015 or 2016 – information should be immediately released to let families, utilities and regulators know if their communities are at risk of exposure to unsafe levels of the pesticide.
Atrazine poses the biggest health risks during pregnancy and infancy. Because of their small size and limited diets, bottle-fed babies consume five to six times higher doses of water pollutants than adults in the same household. Scientists don't how long children must be exposed before suffering harm – but when it comes to children’s health, why take a risk?
EWG and our supporters have demanded that the EPA ban this water-contaminating pesticide. Until this happens, EWG recommends filtering your tap water. Check out EWG’s Water Filter Buying Guide to find the right home water filter for your budget and living circumstances.
Read more about atrazine here.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

It takes 50 years for rain water to make it down to the aquifers in the south west, the largest in the US , to make its way up to the surface and out your taps. What do you think the US was doing directly over it 50 years ago?

I'd be worried. This isn't StarTrek. Radiation can't be filtered out.

 

[pipeline]

It takes 50 years for rain water to make it down to the aquifers in the south west, the largest in the US , to make its way up to the surface and out your taps. What do you think the US was doing directly over it 50 years ago?

I'd be worried. This isn't StarTrek. Radiation can't be filtered out.

Abosolutely, filter your drinking water, but I was thinking in terms of surface water runoff from the field coming into my plot through the ground. We got so much rain, it came back out of the ground near my plot and was flowing around it. The water goes through grass, trees and brush, so it should be mostly filtered out. Atrazine was used in the past on this field. Not sure how recently. Its a corn field this year.

 

[wvkindbud38]

I tell you mother nature has definitely shifted around here, like 94 yesterday, when it's been 78 82 for highs. But the suns out good, there's not as much haze or whatever lingers over the mtns. This suns got it pushed outta here. I'm gonna try and carry in some nutes/water in the morning or probably tomorrow evening. I know the grounds been super wet but it drys/evaporates fast when it's hot. I need a better setup to carry water. I use gal jugs and put them in backpacks and bags, just anything I can find to carry them Into my guerilla site. Id like to have something to put on my back to carry -3-5 gal maybe in maybe, like a strap on container wirh lids, I know Ive seen stuff. I don't really have the money right now, I saw a 6gal water jug at WM for like $20 that pretty decent. It would be heavy if filled 6gal, but you could put whatever in it. I didn't see anyway to strap it on your back, but I didn't have time to look or the money is the main thing. May I remind to a couple miles straight up hike with water....6gals isn't much standing in the yard. Well lol wait about 5 mins or less heading up there and you start realizing how heavy that shit gets. And it's been slick from the leaves and rain, you can easily fall and lose your shit after you've hiked 30mins or whatever. This first trip I'm gonna have to see how many gallon I can get up there, Probably multiple trips once I get started. I put a beautiful Ocean Grown Cookies outdoors last evening, man she's so green compared to everything. Ive got several more nice indoor plants to get out!!! Remember if your about guerilla planting to keep plenty extra water with you, please!

 

[wvkindbud38]

And this well water stinks to fuck like sulfur or something, plus alot of coal mining tapped into the unground. There's a reason why this state has like the highest cancer rate, ie from water? I never drink well water and get water outta the mtns for plants until it drys up in summer. then I'll water from well wated

 

[TychoMonolyth]

If it's corn then they're putting heat activated Nitrkgen. So you're good pipeman.

 

[wvkindbud38]

I got a nice selection to still put outdoors, or containers, Dubble Sundae, Moby Dick, Lemon OG, couple Serious 6s, I'd like to get at least on in a 10gal grow bags. And several Seedsman fems Bruce B, Gelato OG, Peyote Wifi, Peyote Gorilla, and a cheese. So I definatly wanna get those out. I'm gonna take a plant or 2 up to put at the Guerilla Site tomorrow. I'm really just wanting to feed everything good, get some nutes back in the plants from the rains. Not sure what to take, that Moby Dick needs put in the guerilla site, Mark it down a plant from these late ones will produce a good plant. Its gonna be some fun, can't wait to see my plot

 

[pipeline]

Oh yeah, the big green reliance water jugs! I love those! 6 gallons is a lot of weight. Thats too much to walk with. Very thankful for all the rain we've been getting. I do not like hauling water. God is so good and provides for our every need!


Went out to check on the plot. The plants are growing well! A couple of them are up to pocket height with a 3/8 inch wide stem! Will be top dressing this weekend before the next rounds of rain next week! There are a few plants on the lower end of the garden with compromised root systems. Pulled up 3 or 4 and there may be a couple more that don't make it. I think the ditch will prevent excess water now!


Enjoy a couple new views!

 

[wvkindbud38]

I'm gonna give it ago, I really just need to check my guerilla plot, I'm gonna see how many gal of water I can carry in. I've got a plant or 2 id like to take with me.....man it's hot. It's not so bad once you get the first 30mins climbing uphill, cause it's somewhat straight accross, and of course downhill coming back, which is easy but you gotta be careful. lol I got my feet tangled into some weeds and was coming downhill and fell and damn near got hurt. Get out here and get something done hopefully

 

[wvkindbud38]

Well I got 5-6 gal of nutes took to my guerilla plot. Also got that Lemon OG in a good spot/guerilla plot. Everything was just starting to need some tlc, I removed dead leaves and water/fed all the plants. There's probably about 10-12 decent size plants there. Here's some pics from this evening