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anyone think we need new terminology besides Indica and Sativa?

Warped1

I'm a victim of fast women and slow horses
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Smarter people than me get to decide shit like this. Hey I admit it
 

dddaver

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Something about the term hybrid seems clinical to me. Since people grow mostly crosses of sat. doms or ind. doms these days anyway, and even a lot of land-races must get crossed too as growing weed becomes more widespread and accepted, maybe describe it as high or stoney, like stoney shit vs high shit? But, then again, the terms sat. dom or ind. dom kinda indicate that anyway. For me, you just gotta k.i.s.s. :biggrin:
 

floralheart

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Blasphemy i know but hear me out.

the term indica means originating in india
and the term sativa is a latin adjective meaning cultivated


now as those who have studied or looked into the indian cannabis culture will know, the types of cannabis vary from the extreme squat short types and the larger more (for lack of a better term) sativa plans down south by goa.
so to label all the plants that are what we imagine when we envision 'indicas' as indica is inherently flawed.

this is all debatable of course but i think the small, rank, potent, squat afghani, indian and pakistani plants that are the basis for most modern indica strains are mostly strains people have been growing for a few generations. this would mean that they are sativa in the sense they've been cultivated by people and to me at least i have to throw all those terms of the window, because i think alot of indicas are sativa in the original meaning of the word.

thoughts?

Should we call it Short Round?
 
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quokka

fair point but to 99% of people indica means short and stoney, sativa = lanky and heady..

and the western cultivated ganja gene pool is a big, but fairly healthy, mess so people can't tell the original origins hardly anymore,, just look at the "kushs"..

I think this is pretty much accepted even if it is technically vague or incorrect.

I don't imagine it will change, as it is just a generalisation.

Like Black people, white people, yellow people, red people, brown people.......
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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To change terminology at this point in time would only confuse things more because while some may adopt the new terminology many would stick with what they know and are comfortable with.

As it stands now when people hear indica they tend to think, short to medium height, somewhat bushy plant with relatively short, wide leaves and dense buds that produce a mild to heavy (depending on the particular strain) body stone that is ready to harvest after 8 to 10 weeks (also depending on the particular strain) of flowering.

When people hear sativa they tend to think tall, somewhat lanky plant with long thin leaves and less dense buds that produce a mild to heavy (depending on the particular strain) heady, energetic high that is ready to harvest after 12 or more weeks (also depending on the particular strain) of flower.

Mainly when they are talking about indica vs sativa people are focusing on the size of the plant, the length of time to harvest and the high of the bud. Rarely are they referencing the size and/or shape of the leaves.

I feel that when people start talking about hybrids and they say X% indica, Y% sativa they are referencing the high mostly and perhaps to a lesser degree the flowering time. I seriously doubt anyone referring to percentages of sativa and indica in a hybrid has the ability to accurately determine the percentages of genetic traits inherited from the parents of that hybrid strain. So for example if someone says it's 70% indica and 30% sativa they are mostly saying the high from it is mostly a body stone but with a little headiness to it and vice versa for a 70% sativa, 30% indica.

I think also that a lot of what is meant by such terminology is dependent on who is talking to who. If a grower is talking to another grower then they're likely referring more to the physical characteristics of the plant and how it behaves while growing. If however a grower is talking to a non grower then the terminology is used more to describe the high. Then also if you have two non growers tossing around percentages of indica vs percentages of sativa they are most likely just posers trying to come across as if they know more then they actually do.
 
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