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Any canoeist here?

Timj

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I'm considering purchasing another canoe. This time a solo or possibly a pack canoe. Lightweight Kevlar or a composite. My question is. Does anyone have experience going from a traditional seating position to the floor seating of a pack canoe? I have a bad back so I'm wondering if paddling from the lower position will be better or worse for my back.
 

Creeperpark

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I'm considering purchasing another canoe. This time a solo or possibly a pack canoe. Lightweight Kevlar or a composite. My question is. Does anyone have experience going from a traditional seating position to the floor seating of a pack canoe? I have a bad back so I'm wondering if paddling from the lower position will be better or worse for my back.
Hello friend, I don't know much about canoes but after you get outdoors can you shoot some photos so we can see what it's like in a canoe? Sounds like a wonderful adventure. Please keep us posted with wilderness photos.
 

Timj

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Hello friend, I don't know much about canoes but after you get outdoors can you shoot some photos so we can see what it's like in a canoe? Sounds like a wonderful adventure. Please keep us posted with wilderness photos.
Thanks @Creeperpark. I'll post pictures in the spring when I get the canoe. I'm just trying to do some research now. None of the canoe websites I've checked answer the question.
 

armedoldhippy

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going from a traditional seating position to the floor seating of a pack canoe? I have a bad back so I'm wondering if paddling from the lower position will be better
i've got canoes/kayaks, and i would use a kayak paddle rather than a normal canoe paddle sitting lower like that. i found it much more difficult paddling in a regular canoe if sitting flat, but the height of the sides relative to your position will be important factors in your comfort. back pain sucks... :shucks:
 

Timj

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i've got canoes/kayaks, and i would use a kayak paddle rather than a normal canoe paddle sitting lower like that. i found it much more difficult paddling in a regular canoe if sitting flat, but the height of the sides relative to your position will be important factors in your comfort. back pain sucks... :shucks:
That's what I thought @armedoldhippy . When I peddle a bicycle even for 50 feet I end up bed ridden for a week or more. I'm not sure the same core muscles and or flexing would be used with a kayak paddle. That is my main concern other than my lumber spine being fused. I do still have the ability to paddle my Old Town Saranac without pain.
 

armedoldhippy

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other than my lumber spine being fused.
had x-rays at a chiropractor visit the other day. seems that part of my upper spine is fusing/calcifying in such a manner as to put pressure on the nerves, causing the tingling/numbness in my hands/arms etc. it is somewhat similar to how a bad cold or infected tooth can compress nerves in your facial bones, resulting in Bells Palsy, which i had for months years back... :( i didn't need this shit...
 

Timj

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had x-rays at a chiropractor visit the other day. seems that part of my upper spine is fusing/calcifying in such a manner as to put pressure on the nerves, causing the tingling/numbness in my hands/arms etc. it is somewhat similar to how a bad cold or infected tooth can compress nerves in your facial bones, resulting in Bells Palsy, which i had for months years back... :( i didn't need this shit...
That sucks. It seems that as we get older we discover new ailments that slow us down. After a hernia operation in February this year. I've had terrible stomach pain and it feels like someone kicked me in the privates. Those new pains never go away. But, I have no more bulge popping out of my stomach. So, I will continue to do anything I'm capable of doing at this point.
 

Creeperpark

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Damn, I'm sorry to hear about both of your pains. Unfortunately, there's no way out of old age, illness, and death for us at this point. Everyone has to run into it sooner or later. It seems like around 65 shit starts happening and makes a person wonder what's going on? We see the universal law of impermanence creeping into everything.

Losing my eyesight was kicking my ass because I was fighting it and causing myself a lot of suffering. If there's no fix for me I must learn how to make peace with it. It's just how it is and acceptance is how to make peace. Everyone has old age, illness, and death at the forefront of their path and unconsciously refuses to look at it closely. When it gets here one is forced to look at this truth. So the question is not "when will it happen" but how to make peace with when it does happen because this is the way it is.
 

arsekick

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Work hard when your young and play when your old or play when your young and work when your old

Eirther way you're fucked when your old :ROFLMAO:
 

bigtacofarmer

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I bought a canoe in 2020 and used it a few times. It is currently helping decorate my driveway. I really should make a point to use it more often.
 

Timj

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I agree that getting old is a pain. But, I keep pushing forward and try to keep active. I'm not one to sit around and wait for a nursing home bed to open up. I'd take your canoe out @bigtacofarmer, even if it's just a small local pond or slow moving river.
 

bigtacofarmer

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I agree that getting old is a pain. But, I keep pushing forward and try to keep active. I'm not one to sit around and wait for a nursing home bed to open up. I'd take your canoe out @bigtacofarmer, even if it's just a small local pond or slow moving river.
Let me know next time you are in my part of Michigan. I'll bring some mushrooms.
 

Old Piney

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I'm considering purchasing another canoe. This time a solo or possibly a pack canoe. Lightweight Kevlar or a composite. My question is. Does anyone have experience going from a traditional seating position to the floor seating of a pack canoe? I have a bad back so I'm wondering if paddling from the lower position will be better or worse for my back.
So I've been into into slow flat water padding in the New Jersey pine barrens for year's , always in a canoe. My back is bad as well as my knees now. My experience with these small one man canoes is the are extremely tippy thats why you got to sit on the floor and I find this the worst thing for my back. I have a old aluminum 14’ Michicraft canoe, I canoe solo in it backwards sitting on what would be the front seat in the back middle. I use a good strap on seat cushion with a back rest. I find this the most comfortable and also extremely maneuverable. I find this the best for solo canoeing and because it's a 14’ canoe it has a high draft .The canoe must have flat bench seats so you can fit the cushion seat on backward, tapered bucket stile old town canoe seats won't work well .

 
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Timj

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So I've been into into slow flat water padding in the New Jersey pine barrens for year's , always in a canoe. My back is bad as well as my knees now. My experience with these small one man canoes is the are extremely tippy thats why you got to sit on the floor and I find this the worst thing for my back. I have a old aluminum 14’ Michicraft canoe, I canoe solo in it backwards sitting on what would be the front seat in the back middle. I use a good strap on seat cushion with a back rest. I find this the most comfortable and also extremely maneuverable. I find this the best for solo canoeing and because it's a 14’ canoe it has a high draft .The canoe must have flat bench seats so you can fit the cushion seat on backward, tapered bucket stile old town canoe seats won't work well .

I used to paddle my 17' canoe the same way as you do. I'm considering pulling the seats and center BS thing in my Saranac 146. I'd replace them with 2 dropped bench seats at about 4" down from the gunwales. In the center I'd put a yoke for portaging. Because the Old Towne Saranac 146 is a Thermoformed Polyethelyne canoe, I may need to add a coped center rib that will be just forward of my yoke. If I do these alterations. I will use clear cedar for its lightweight and rot resistance. The canoe is useless as it is now for solo paddling as they are fixed seats with built in back rests.
 

Old Piney

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I used to paddle my 17' canoe the same way as you do. I'm considering pulling the seats and center BS thing in my Saranac 146. I'd replace them with 2 dropped bench seats at about 4" down from the gunwales. In the center I'd put a yoke for portaging. Because the Old Towne Saranac 146 is a Thermoformed Polyethelyne canoe, I may need to add a coped center rib that will be just forward of my yoke. If I do these alterations. I will use clear cedar for its lightweight and rot resistance. The canoe is useless as it is now for solo paddling as they are fixed seats with built in back rests.
Sounds like a good plan
 

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