another young kid screwed

[Ganico]

I'm glad I don't live in the US anymore. Cops love to shit all over your rights. I hate playing that game. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl in peace now. The kid can always go to a different college. I feel for him. I ended up not finishing college because of a felony...

What about Eric Vols in Nicaragua? He should have just stayed in America. I'm pretty sure most of the world has a worse and less fair "political system" than here. Seems like in most other countries if you even talk negatively about the leader/president/king they come and chop your ass up with automatic machine gun fire.


I'd much rather live in America than Nicaraugua or most of Asia, or the Arab countries. Going to jail for weed is bad enough, i don't need to serve a life sentence, or lose fingers/toes or be stoned to death with big rocks. The level of health in their jails is also probably even worse than here.

 

[2buds]

At least he took credit for it.

 

[Guest]

Your Rights

Your Rights

When my son got busted last year for cultivation and possession, the cops knocked on the door and he didn't answer. They kept on knocking while one cop went around back and crawled in a window. My son went in the bedroom as the cop was half in. If he was dangerous, that cop would have been dead.

When the cops got in, they asked him why he didn't answer the door. He explained to them that if they didn't have a warrant, they would go away. If they did have a warrant, they could break down the door. He didn't want to talk to them. He is now serving 3 years probation, with a felony record.

Wow, that's harsh. Did he ask to see their warrant? or did they not have a warrant?

Yeah, it's true that they can get away with pretty much anything.. That's why you keep a tape recorder/webcam ready by the door at all times in case they do try to get smart. The minute they see you flip the record button on (which I don't believe is unlawful to record--check up on this), you've got shit on them to use in court if they unlawfully enter your home. If they do enter unlawfully, their entire police department could go under investigation by the FBI.

If they do have a warrant and they show it to you, let them in and say absolutely nothing more than, "I would like a lawyer before I answer any questions." Regardless of whether or not they find your herb plants... you still give your lawyer more ammo to fire back in court. Remember that old saying that we're all familiar with? "Loose Lips sink ships."


Cited from the ACLU website http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14528res20040730.html :


-----------------------------------
Think carefully about your words, movement, body language, and emotions.

Don't get into an argument with the police.

Remember, anything you say or do can be used against you.

Keep your hands where the police can see them.

Don't run. Don't touch any police officer.

Don't resist even if you believe you are innocent.

Don't complain on the scene or tell the police they're wrong or that you're going to file a complaint.

Do not make any statements regarding the incident. Ask for a lawyer immediately upon your arrest.

Remember officers' badge and patrol car numbers.

Write down everything you remember ASAP.

Try to find witnesses and their names and phone numbers.

If you are injured, take photographs of the injuries as soon as possible, but make sure you seek medical attention first.

If you feel your rights have been violated, file a written complaint with police department's internal affairs division or civilian complaint board.

1. What you say to the police is always important. What you say can be used against you, and it can give the police an excuse to arrest you, especially if you bad-mouth a police officer.

2. You must show your driver's license and registration when stopped in a car. Otherwise, you don't have to answer any questions if you are detained or arrested, with one important exception. The police may ask for your name if you have been properly detained, and you can be arrested in some states for refusing to give it. If you reasonably fear that your name is incriminating, you can claim the right to remain silent, which may be a defense in case you are arrested anyway.

3. You don't have to consent to any search of yourself, your car or your house. If you DO consent to a search, it can affect your rights later in court. If the police say they have a search warrant, ASK TO SEE IT.

4. Do not interfere with, or obstruct the police -- you can be arrested for it.
IF YOU ARE STOPPED FOR QUESTIONING

1. It's not a crime to refuse to answer questions, but refusing to answer can make the police suspicious about you. If you are asked to identify yourself, see paragraph 2 above.

2. Police may "pat-down" your clothing if they suspect a concealed weapon. Don't physically resist, but make it clear that you don't consent to any further search.

3. Ask if you are under arrest. If you are, you have a right to know why.

4. Don't bad-mouth the police officer or run away, even if you believe what is happening is unreasonable. That could lead to your arrest.
IF YOU'RE STOPPED IN YOUR CAR

1. Upon request, show them your driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. In certain cases, your car can be searched without a warrant as long as the police have probable cause. To protect yourself later, you should make it clear that you do not consent to a search. It is not lawful for police to arrest you simply for refusing to consent to a search.

2. If you're given a ticket, you should sign it; otherwise you can be arrested. You can always fight the case in court later.

3. If you're suspected of drunk driving (DWI) and refuse to take a blood, urine or breath test, your driver's license may be suspended.
IF YOU'RE ARRESTED OR TAKEN TO A POLICE STATION

1. You have the right to remain silent and to talk to a lawyer before you talk to the police. Tell the police nothing except your name and address. Don't give any explanations, excuses or stories. You can make your defense later, in court, based on what you and your lawyer decide is best.

2. Ask to see a lawyer immediately. If you can't pay for a lawyer, you have a right to a free one, and should ask the police how the lawyer can be contacted. Don't say anything without a lawyer.

3. Within a reasonable time after your arrest, or booking, you have the right to make a local phone call: to a lawyer, bail bondsman, a relative or any other person. The police may not listen to the call to the lawyer.

4. Sometimes you can be released without bail, or have bail lowered. Have your lawyer ask the judge about this possibility. You must be taken before the judge on the next court day after arrest.

5. Do not make any decisions in your case until you have talked with a lawyer.
IN YOUR HOME

1. If the police knock and ask to enter your home, you don't have to admit them unless they have a warrant signed by a judge.

2. However, in some emergency situations (like when a person is screaming for help inside, or when the police are chasing someone) officers are allowed to enter and search your home without a warrant.

3. If you are arrested, the police can search you and the area close by. If you are in a building, "close by" usually means just the room you are in.

We all recognize the need for effective law enforcement, but we should also understand our own rights and responsibilities -- especially in our relationships with the police. Everyone, including minors, has the right to courteous and respectful police treatment.

If your rights are violated, don't try to deal with the situation at the scene. You can discuss the matter with an attorney afterwards, or file a complaint with the Internal Affairs or Civilian Complaint Board.
Produced by the American Civil Liberties Union.

 

[Inavixious]

It's hard to fault the kid being charged here because he was neither the dumbass speeding nor the one forfieting his 4th amendment, I took from the story that he rode shotty.

I think another crime not mentioned here is how we have to pay hefty in taxes for this dumb war on drugs, including putting up all the pot smokers and growers in prison for years. That runs steep, something we could use for the country's education system or something productive.

 

[Frogger]

Anyone see the movie drug store cowboys?? They had a hole in the floor of the car and dumped the drugs if the cops came. It wouldn’t have helped the guy with a pound but smaller amounts would work.

 

[Guest]

I don't have much respect for the legal system in the States anymore but I'm not going to trash talk the US because of it. I'll be damned if the cops are going to change my attitude about the US.

I was pulled over two and a half years ago at 1:58 AM after the sheriff had followed me for over 4 miles. I was going home after a night of getting shit faced after my younger brother's death. No excuse intended, just fucked up. Pulled me over literally 50 feet from my street. Said he pulled me over for swerving in the road. Being drunk as I was, I popped off and told him last time I'd checked the driver's handbook, swerving wasn't against the law. Shouldn't have. I submitted to a field sobriety test and failed. He cuffed me after I said, dude I'm only 100 yards from the house how bout lettin me just go home. He laughed. Cost me $7500 for the lawyers and fines. Got 1 year probation, 40 hours community service, a $500 fine, and supposedly have to pay a surcharge to the state each year for 3 years for my driver's license (haven't ever seen a bill for it though).

Sheriff was an asshole, lawyer wrote the book on DWI defense and still couldn't get me off. I broke the law and got caught. Not pissed about that, pissed about the attitude of the sheriff. Seems like they're all assholes unless you meet them off the job.

Never have had a cop do a single thing positive for me and I'm over 50. Not once have I ever needed the help of law enforcement for anything I couldn't take care of myself. Had 3 sheriffs show up a couple of years ago because a neighbor called them. A pit bull had gotten into my horse paddock and was hanging off the nose of my horse while my horse was trying to shake the dog off. Dog had already ripped holes in the lower jaw and flank of the horse. I grabbed the dog's collar and hit it three times before the dog turned loose and dropped to the ground. Broke my finger in the process. Dog regained its composure and took off after the horse again. I yelled for one of the armed PEACE (of shit) officers to shoot the dog with their shotgun. He said he'd have to call in for permission. I reached across the fence for his shotgun and he pulled back, put his hand on his sidearm and said he couldn't let a civilian have his gun. He said it would take a couple of minutes to get permission. I told him my horse would be dead in a couple of minutes and went inside. He was still on his radio as I came out of my house and fired 3 rounds from my M14 rolling the bitch dog with each shot. The sheriffs all three shit their pants, drew their pistols and took a stance at me. I told them to put their weapons away and get off my property. Told them this wasn't a police state and that my rifle was legal and I had the right to use it and I didn't have to call anyone for fucking permission to shoot. Adrenalin was pumping everywhere and I'm lucky they didn't overreact, hehe.

Yeah, I think they're all pretty worthless but what the fuck ya gonna do. Leave? Nah. Took a little pleasure though in the fact that not one of them had more firepower than I did and their wasn't a damned thing they could do about it.

Sorry about the rant. Pisses me off to see a 20 year old do time for pot when there are drunks on the road. I haven't had a drink in over two years now. Pots better. lol.

Peace

 

[Guest]

its ridiculous every where you go

its ridiculous every where you go

the police over here are sinking to new lows one person i no was harrased at the door of his flat by the police when he questionedthe search there no real reasons for it but they simply said wee have had compliants from your neighbours about the smell of a dead body next thing you kno all the place is bein raided and he had nothing there but in the other property they hit the jacpot and put it all in their pockets i never belived him untill i saw the list of evidence and i expected 30,000 to be on this list but apparently it wasnt found and seeds arnt against the law here and this guy had a archive of seeds from his travels to amsterdam about 5 shoeboxes full of little packets u know the type any waywhen he got busted all they found was half a kilo but the point of this is in england the police chase you and get you no matter what its bad every where all of us jus need to watch out theyll try and arrest you for anything and they are ruthless that story is not that suprising neither is my friends one its all numbers thats how they see it i even oveheard one officer say on his radio last time i was arrested the stats were low for robbery busts so i duno the guy at the station radio controller said to the guy who was holding me he was going to bump up the numbers but he needs somebody to account for all those arrests so the guy who was holding me said to another officer holding me "did u hear that apparently ill be in the advitisor {local paper} this week " the other officer asked why??? he said because according to sarge {the guy on the radio} i made 20 arrests today and the other guy replied how????? you just came in befor this guy got arrested he replied HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH magic.and the point of that story is that these hollywood films arnt all that unbelievable these police really are wankers and us as a community should just keep each other informed because all of this money looting fake statistics cant be right but how do we stop it and that police officer didnt make 20 arrests his sargent just said he did and put it on the computer but i bet there was at least 2o unanswered robberys so their books arnt even strait sorry if im goin on but listen to that and thell me you wont get pissed they arrest me for smoking a joint but someones getting raped they dnt care sorry guys they jus piss me off

 

[DimeBag65]

WoW Pops, the fuckers crawled into his window? now thats some bullshit, now do you have to worry about rippers comin to steal and go through your shit, but the fuzz comin and sneakin around if you happen not to be home.

Sad times for personal rights.

 

[Chitownstoner]

it makes me mad! no one should have the rights to tell us what we can grow and not grow! this kid should of hid his pot better. I smoke pot like its legal. I do get a little foolish with it also. But society treats us like animals for using a herb! This kid sounded like a bright college student that got caught up with the bullshit. I feel bad for him and his family.

 

[yamaha_1fan]

Mojo, sorry about the horse but thats a great story with the cops. damn that made me smile.


I had a cop bust my grow, too long of a story but as far as im concerned FTP.


This kid will probably get some probation, spend alot of money on legal fees and be stuck with a felony on his record forever. sucks

 

[yamaha_1fan]

Cited from the ACLU website http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14528res20040730.html :


-----------------------------------
Think carefully about your words, movement, body language, and emotions.

Don't get into an argument with the police.

Remember, anything you say or do can be used against you.

Keep your hands where the police can see them.

Don't run. Don't touch any police officer.

Don't resist even if you believe you are innocent.

Don't complain on the scene or tell the police they're wrong or that you're going to file a complaint.

Do not make any statements regarding the incident. Ask for a lawyer immediately upon your arrest.

Remember officers' badge and patrol car numbers.

Write down everything you remember ASAP.

Try to find witnesses and their names and phone numbers.

If you are injured, take photographs of the injuries as soon as possible, but make sure you seek medical attention first.

If you feel your rights have been violated, file a written complaint with police department's internal affairs division or civilian complaint board.

1. What you say to the police is always important. What you say can be used against you, and it can give the police an excuse to arrest you, especially if you bad-mouth a police officer.

2. You must show your driver's license and registration when stopped in a car. Otherwise, you don't have to answer any questions if you are detained or arrested, with one important exception. The police may ask for your name if you have been properly detained, and you can be arrested in some states for refusing to give it. If you reasonably fear that your name is incriminating, you can claim the right to remain silent, which may be a defense in case you are arrested anyway.

3. You don't have to consent to any search of yourself, your car or your house. If you DO consent to a search, it can affect your rights later in court. If the police say they have a search warrant, ASK TO SEE IT.

4. Do not interfere with, or obstruct the police -- you can be arrested for it.
IF YOU ARE STOPPED FOR QUESTIONING

1. It's not a crime to refuse to answer questions, but refusing to answer can make the police suspicious about you. If you are asked to identify yourself, see paragraph 2 above.

2. Police may "pat-down" your clothing if they suspect a concealed weapon. Don't physically resist, but make it clear that you don't consent to any further search.

3. Ask if you are under arrest. If you are, you have a right to know why.

4. Don't bad-mouth the police officer or run away, even if you believe what is happening is unreasonable. That could lead to your arrest.
IF YOU'RE STOPPED IN YOUR CAR

1. Upon request, show them your driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. In certain cases, your car can be searched without a warrant as long as the police have probable cause. To protect yourself later, you should make it clear that you do not consent to a search. It is not lawful for police to arrest you simply for refusing to consent to a search.

2. If you're given a ticket, you should sign it; otherwise you can be arrested. You can always fight the case in court later.

3. If you're suspected of drunk driving (DWI) and refuse to take a blood, urine or breath test, your driver's license may be suspended.
IF YOU'RE ARRESTED OR TAKEN TO A POLICE STATION

1. You have the right to remain silent and to talk to a lawyer before you talk to the police. Tell the police nothing except your name and address. Don't give any explanations, excuses or stories. You can make your defense later, in court, based on what you and your lawyer decide is best.

2. Ask to see a lawyer immediately. If you can't pay for a lawyer, you have a right to a free one, and should ask the police how the lawyer can be contacted. Don't say anything without a lawyer.

3. Within a reasonable time after your arrest, or booking, you have the right to make a local phone call: to a lawyer, bail bondsman, a relative or any other person. The police may not listen to the call to the lawyer.

4. Sometimes you can be released without bail, or have bail lowered. Have your lawyer ask the judge about this possibility. You must be taken before the judge on the next court day after arrest.

5. Do not make any decisions in your case until you have talked with a lawyer.
IN YOUR HOME

1. If the police knock and ask to enter your home, you don't have to admit them unless they have a warrant signed by a judge.

2. However, in some emergency situations (like when a person is screaming for help inside, or when the police are chasing someone) officers are allowed to enter and search your home without a warrant.

3. If you are arrested, the police can search you and the area close by. If you are in a building, "close by" usually means just the room you are in.

We all recognize the need for effective law enforcement, but we should also understand our own rights and responsibilities -- especially in our relationships with the police. Everyone, including minors, has the right to courteous and respectful police treatment.

If your rights are violated, don't try to deal with the situation at the scene. You can discuss the matter with an attorney afterwards, or file a complaint with the Internal Affairs or Civilian Complaint Board.
Produced by the American Civil Liberties Union.

why shit like this isnt a stickie, I dont know. this is the best advise given. who cares how many grams you get per watt if you cant keep your mouth shut and dont know your rights.

 

[niggan8]

mistake #1: pot in back seat
mistake #2: pot was obviously not wrapped in turkey bags or some other way of odor control
mistake #3: speeding with a half pound in your back seat
mistake #4: consented to search knowing a half pound in your back seat
mistake #5: knowingly admitting that it belongs to you

no offense but this kid is a RETARD

 

[Bob Labla]

yea he was a dumbass but shit like this almost brings me to tears when i think about how this guys life is totally fucked over something thats no more dangerous to anyones health than carring a keg of beer in your car.

 

[jipedestran]

actually far less dangerous than a keg of beer.

1. in an accident, that keg of beer could turn into a flying projectile and actually kill.
2. if ingested, that keg of beer could kill more than one person due to alcohol poisoning.

peace
jip

 

[Danksta]

Another kids life wasted...

 

[gaiusmarius]

it's like i've said before, the war on drugs is actually a war on our fellow citizens. these kind of events just highlight that fact. although people on the whole are getting sensible about cannabis, the politicians and leo seem to be going in the opposite direction, not just in the US either. personally i think that they fear that cannabis becomes even more widely used and people are no longer so easy to manipulate by the corporate media. specially the war agenda and the huge profits made by the military industrial complex are in danger, as most cannabis users tend to be against wars of aggression, let alone wars for plunder and spoils. nor do cannabis users much like the idea of the new world order and one world government. also the petrochemical industry, pharmaceutical industry and to a lesser extent the textile industry are all enemies of legalization.

poor kid, it's crazy to stop his education, that's exactly what will force him down one road, leaving him few choices. the law for cannabis is stupid, but even so there should always be a second chance for a so called crime, with no victim or losing party. it's plainly wrong to ruin his life for such a harmless transgression. it's like they want to make a criminal out of people. instead of being setup to help integrate and get someone back on their feet, the system seems to be geared towards knocking one down and making sure to keep you down no matter what.

peace out

 

[mapleboy]

Sorry have to "dissagree"... the kids an IDIOT plain and simple..
1. traveling 47 mph in a 35-mph zone
2.they could smell marijuana inside the car
3."Baker replied without being asked any question that the amount of marijuana was a half pound, as he had purchased that much."

RESPONSE to #1.. the guys were SPEEDING... if it wasnt for driving infractions/domestic disturabances etc 99% of ALL the busts would NOT HAPPEN!!!
RESPONSE to #2 They were smokin and getting HIGH AND speeding..."dumbass" comes to mind.
RESPONSE th #3 He ADMITTED it was his.... he's going to school with what... and IQ of 13??
Sorry guys but it's DUMBASS'S like this that make legit growers and users like US look bad!! The kids OBVIOUSLY not a grower like us... just a PUNKASS dealer!!! JUST as bad as a pimp..
MB

 

[krustytheclown]

Great story, mojo!

When did that happen? I'd be pleasantly surprised if it happened in the last 10 years. I'd figure if one tried that today, you'd be arrested, convicted of some bullshit felony and/or shot by the cops.

Sorry to hear about your horse.

 

[Guest]

No krusty, it actually happened about 3 years ago. I don't see how anyone would be arrested for it. It happened outside the city limits on private property. Sheriff's authority extends to the county but they have to abide by the same laws concerning their authority to gain access to that property and unless they witness an illegal act, which this wasn't, they can't arrest anybody.

And I think it would have been obvious to a judge that had I been a threat to the deputies, I could have dropped them before they could have responded, so no way they could have shot me after I had shot the dog three times, and been able to claim that I was threatening to shoot them.

Moot point. I'm here, the dog's dead, the horse is fine and I'm glad I live in a country that allows me to own firearms. If it would just wise up on the POT issue, things would really be headed in the right direction.

Peace

 

[badboyg]

mojo-- you remind me of my dad,, lol... he will go out if any shit is going down near our place,, one time there was a "issue" with some folks the cops were chaseing or some shit,,, he went out with his shotgun and stood behind a large pine tree to keep the "trash" from coming in our place and to keep an eye on things,,, dig,,

so heres all these LEO hunting around and they do not see my dad,, he is on OUR land.. after a bit one finaly spots him and tries to make him put it down,,

I forget the words but. basicaly was hell not YOU keep moving,,,, he did, the LEO that is,,

this was a few years back, and most the local cops knew my dad... not the ass of a leo.....