Another Crappy Day in Paradise..... Do it Again.

[militia420]

I love Fern Forest, lived up there for a bit...but it is wet. You got to have strong lines to grow up there. You can build a greenhouse but then you will have greenhouse issues to deal with. Good genetics is really your only option.

If I was healthier last year I think the wetness would have been less of an issue I think this year has been wetter so far.

Are you personally positive people have grown under the open skies up here because this rain can get so strong and heavy that I can easily picture plants getting snapped?

I'm gonna list the lines I've got that I will try putting out. From what I've read this could literally be trial and error, but Sativas are strongly favored over indicas, from what I've read. Typically I'd be cool with this as I prefer Sats, but my sleeping patterns are a wreck from health problems and I just got 2 strong indicas to try to help with my insomnia (I got 2hrs and 45 minutes sleep last night, gonna try to sleep more after I get off of here. Been averaging 6-7 hours since January and this crap really burns you out and makes health problems worse).

So here's the Sativa's I'll keep mother's of inside, and stick clones outside:
SSSHD IX (Super Silver Sour Haze Diesel I think it is)
CAT Supersonic

MOSCA C99 F1 (I had 1 out of 10 of these ancient seeds take!! And she's showing female flowers already!! Woohoo!!)

My own C99 F4 IBL from Gypsy Nirvana's Brother's Grimm orig stock (Only 1 plant out of thousands of seeds has taken and is growing...still trying to get these seeds from my 2009 grow to pop. Seems like temperatures and soaking time are critical to getting any possibility of these guys sprouting and then growing).

Peak Seeds C99 (just started all these Peak Seeds sprouts)
Peak Seeds Sweet Skunk x C99


And then the more indica leaning plants I have are:
CAT Venomdog

Peak Seeds Northern Berry


The SSSHD IX are the most sativa looking. But I swear the torrential downpours scare me more than the frequent moisture. I can just picture checking my plants after one of these deafening rains only to find a broken mess of plants.

I may cave and grow out some c99 inside along with the indicas but I have to figure out where the hell to put them and not aggravate the wife with my "smelly" plants.

 

[SurfdOut]

You need local acclimated lines to grow up there. Most commercial seeds arent going to make it. How many plants ya wanna grow? Might be easier just to get cards for you and wifey and grow 14 large plants in a gh. Here is a pic of a plant grown outdoors in volcano with no mold.

 

[kalopatchkid]

I hope you're right. If there's no federal funding involved then this could be the case.

Any idea how frequently they nab guerrilla grows? I figure they probably have every person who got a license flagged for check ups. Those of us who ain't getting no stinking license to do what the law already allows us to do (lawyers/BAR members make bank off of converting rights into licensed privileges) would be more of a pain to nail unless we do something stupid and make our grows visible from the air.

Also, could you, or any one else, tell me what the typical grow seasons are here? I haven't been able to grow in years due to health issues and that's why I'm on the Islands.

I've been doing my best to locate hawaii based posters like old hoale who I've been reading to try to pick up whatever tips I can. It seems pretty clear that outdoor grows ain't all they cracked up to be over here with the humidity.

Its mostly federally funded.

If they wanted to take on the impossible task of going door to door to check every one of the 13,000+ card holders in the state, they'd just drive. From the sky they can see all the people who arent playing by the rules and skip all the small fish.

I'd much rather be protected by state law with a medical card and have them count my plants vs having my door kicked in at 6am.

 

[SurfdOut]

Typical grow season: everyday, all day. Lol Just veg em up and then take em outside or turn off sup lighting.

 

[militia420]

Its mostly federally funded.

If they wanted to take on the impossible task of going door to door to check every one of the 13,000+ card holders in the state, they'd just drive. From the sky they can see all the people who arent playing by the rules and skip all the small fish.

I'd much rather be protected by state law with a medical card and have them count my plants vs having my door kicked in at 6am.

If it's federal funded then any thing is possible in my opinion. Though if you guys observed how they ran it last year, who knows, maybe they'll do that again. I was trying to get an idea of when most of the flowering times seem to be over here since that always seems to be when they go out hunting.

I wasn't thinking of them going door to door checking grows, but instead fly overs with a google maps type interface and licensees flagged by address on the maps. It would be pretty efficient to fly over people living in areas that are conducive to big grows and who have licenses.

So far as the rules go, the State and the Feds don't play by the rules. They apply law to people when it doesn't apply and because people don't study the law or know how to fight in court they simply get a lawyer, who milks them for money, and they get hit with a plea deal, which they could have worked out with out a lawyer. The laws that they hit people with are all laws intended to regulate commercial, legal or illegal, activity. Those just growing for themselves aren't engaged in commerce and fall outside of the regulated activity. In fact, they have a definition for these people in the laws called the "ultimate user". The ultimate user can't be prosecuted for distribution, manufacture, etc. All those things are commercial in nature. These lawyers need to be hanged til they're dead for doing what they're doing with intentional misapplication of the law. They're extorting peoples ignorance.

And yeh I don't want my doors kicked in but given that I've already been a whistleblower I'm not getting a license as it would simply be a heads up to the Feds if they wanted to mess with me and waste my time fighting in court. The Feds can crash the whole State Licensing thing any time they want. For now I think they all see it as a bigger cash maker since they couldn't stop all the growers. They want a piece of the pie. The CIA couldn't control the pot market like they do the coke and heroin markets so they need another avenue while trying to get their slice of the pie.

I'd prefer to keep gorilla growing and fight them in court if I had to. I already won one thing Pro Se. They know I'm a headache guy.

Check this out if you get the time:
https://adask.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/man-or-other-animals-1/

 

[militia420]

Typical grow season: everyday, all day. Lol Just veg em up and then take em outside or turn off sup lighting.

Lol, that's generally what I thought but it sounded like there were set cycles that people were growing around which also gave the GH people the chance to go out near the end of a grow cycle. I was thinking of trying to grow outside off cycle if that was the case, but I also wasn't sure if my plants would get locked in with some subtle season effects.

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

Don't mind the raids, just dispensary backed hired guns. Hope everyone stays safe.

 

[Lester Beans]

Just stopping to say hello!

Hope all is well OH!

Cheers!

 

[militia420]

Just stopping to say hello!

Hope all is well OH!

Cheers!

Dude, I got 3.5 hours sleep last night, but today was so warm up in the forest that I had to spend my time outside. It was a gorgeous day and I now know the sexes of 10 of 12 plants. Gonna axe one male. Prolly gonna stick it out in direct constant light and possible rain to see how that line handles the wet.

Man what a day! My muscles and tendons still feel good from the heat. Hope it's another day like that tomorrow.

Overgrow the gov!

 

[The Revolution]

OH, sorry to hear about all the issues you're up against. Seems like a lotta stress for one man. I am very familiar with that. What can we do besides learn to swim?
Fight on brother. Sorry to hear about your friend man, thats rough. Hate to see good people go young.
Atleast you have the sense to try and take something positive from these negative experiences. I hope the weather cooperates with ya the rest of the season, and you're able to get some enjoyment outta the labor you've put in.. Was it you who built the terraces? How are those going? I have a Skunkdog x SCMK/Black Indica female I selected from an indoor in january. Ive put out quite a few of her into big old smart pots amended with promix and organic amendments. Ive also got about 6 seeds of her running also, to select from. Im going to hit my favorite female clone with a cpl of my favorite males for more seed. I also plant to bring in any nice girls that pop up before they start flowering to keep her alive for future grows. Im anxious to see how the other seeds turn out. Im going ot try to throw up a grow log soon. Just been super swamped with the outdoor guerilla grow. Im running a few different varieties and trying to get them vegged up and in good sized pots. Trouble is most are seed plants, and havent been sexed yet. Im growing in a wet swamp area, in smart pots, and other plastic pots. I dont want to waste too much time or money uppotting them into big smart pots with amendments if theyre just going to be males. The promix here is about $1/ Cu ft., and seems most ag stores have limited amounts. Also the amenments aren't very cheap. Im running on a very tight budget, and thankfully I bought most of these things early season. Ive already gone thru 6 bales of promix, and a half pallet of Miracle gro Organic Potting mix (Its a combo of Peat, Coco, yucca, and other organicness, with trace amounts of food. Ive been mixing this like 1/3 with my promix BX. Greats a really nice loomy, well draining soil, along with compost, EWC, Feather Meal, Kelp meal, Bone Meal, Blood meal, Chicken poop. With constant watering, they grow very fast.. Im planning to just hit with teas a cpl times in veg, and teas high in PK thru flower! I battled fungus gnat larvae while i was trying to germ and start seeds, which knocked out a lot of my seedlings, so Ive been popping seeds right up to mid june.. Now Im dealing with armies of slugs that are devouring entire plants! Fuckers. Starting to get a bit dry now that summer's here, but we just got a nice little rain this A.M which Im thanful for! Ill try to shoot some pics this weekend when I hit the garden again.

 

[militia420]

The promix here is about $1/ Cu ft., and seems most ag stores have limited amounts. Also the amenments aren't very cheap. Im running on a very tight budget, and thankfully I bought most of these things early season. Ive already gone thru 6 bales of promix, and a half pallet of Miracle gro Organic Potting mix (Its a combo of Peat, Coco, yucca, and other organicness, with trace amounts of food. Ive been mixing this like 1/3 with my promix BX.

I've been using the one soil less mix with ~5 parts peat, 4 parts perlite (original formula is 3 if I remember correctly, the 4 parts drains better), 2 parts worm castings. It's more work mixing but it should save you money overall. I'd have to check my receipts to work out prices on it all.

Greats a really nice loomy, well draining soil, along with compost, EWC, Feather Meal, Kelp meal, Bone Meal, Blood meal, Chicken poop. With constant watering, they grow very fast.. Im planning to just hit with teas a cpl times in veg, and teas high in PK thru flower!.

This is what I'm interested in. I never got around to mixing soil amendments in before potting. I always did teas. Problem is, teas are heavy and a lot more work for some one who may or may not need to be in bed. So as far as the things you add, what kind of proportions do you use and is there any thing to be concerned about, like making sure the chicken poo ain't hot and that it's sat for a year? There's bound to be near constant watering where I'm at so the loomy soil is also something I need. I was think of doing 5 parts perlite in the formula I mentioned earlier but that seems like it might be total overkill.

What size smart pots do you use? I bought some 5 gals recently but I'll be damned if these plants probably could wind up needing a 20 gal which boggles my mind. I really need to get this figured out because I don't want to have to repot them if 5 is as small as I think it is now.They'll have to go in something big and that's it all season.

Now Im dealing with armies of slugs that are devouring entire plants! Fuckers. Starting to get a bit dry now that summer's here, but we just got a nice little rain this A.M which Im thanful for! Ill try to shoot some pics this weekend when I hit the garden again.

I killed my first one 2 nights ago. Little bastard was inches from the single Mosca F1 I've got going. I'm sure they could clean these ~2 foot plants in a night if they pick one they like. I just hit the MOSCA with NEEM oil because there were some aphids or something on the under side, with minimal damage. You might consider hitting your plants with NEEM. It washes off and if you do it right it won't be on the plants when they finish. If it kills insects I'm sure a slug would find it repulsive. You could also try a small strong salt water moat around the base of the plants. Use half a pvc pipe for the moat.

Hey I appreciate any answers to my questions, especially the bag size you use.

 

[militia420]

What size smart pots do you use? I bought some 5 gals recently but I'll be damned if these plants probably could wind up needing a 20 gal which boggles my mind. I really need to get this figured out because I don't want to have to repot them if 5 is as small as I think it is now.They'll have to go in something big and that's it all season.

5 gallon smart pots it is for now. The girls were too big to remain in the smaller containers. I'm going to look into this whole DIY smart pots to save some money. Can't spend what I don't have. The past 2 days I've tested leaving a few plants out in the open. They seem to be handling the rain okay. No torrential downpours yet, and hopefully none until the plants have stiffened up the main stalks even more.

Only 2 of my strains are supposed to be indica dominant, the Peak's NorthernBerry is the one I'd worry about the most out in the open. I may have to improvise some camoflagued cover for those. The rest that I have are sativas in a decently draining soil mix and seem to handle the rain well so far...I guess we'll see what happens over time and the issue of bud rot. I'll be cloning all of the girls and keeping mothers inside to keep the lines going and to be ready in case they aren't strong enough to deal with this environment.

Welcome to the jungle....

 

[Elsweeto]

Wassup my island brethren! Hope all is good, much love from overcast Ireland!

 

[hup234]

I've been using the one soil less mix with ~5 parts peat, 4 parts perlite (original formula is 3 if I remember correctly, the 4 parts drains better), 2 parts worm castings. It's more work mixing but it should save you money overall. I'd have to check my receipts to work out prices on it all.

A cinder /soil mix (try to find black mix) $27 a ton...then add all your amendments..takes the place of peat and perlite

 

[Papusadrianus]

My bird is a hairdresser and she brings bags of hair home -put it round the base of yer plants or wd40 sprayed round the side of yer pots - both these repel slugs and u can mek a wig with the spare hair.......

 

[militia420]

I've been using the one soil less mix with ~5 parts peat, 4 parts perlite (original formula is 3 if I remember correctly, the 4 parts drains better), 2 parts worm castings. It's more work mixing but it should save you money overall. I'd have to check my receipts to work out prices on it all.

A cinder /soil mix (try to find black mix) $27 a ton...then add all your amendments..takes the place of peat and perlite

Thanks for the recommendation. I looked at that cinder yesterday. It's way too heavy for me to work with. I've got really REALLY bad hamstring tendons so maybe down the road if I get improvement or figure out a way to manage it. Love price tag but no can do for now.

 

[JackCough]

Another crappy day in paradise
Flight do it again
This is air traffic control
We are receiving seven five zero zero
Please confirm over

 

[Weezard]

Sounds like someone is 8 miles high.

 

[SurfdOut]

Skdg. Some choppers last week flying, but not much.

 

[militia420]

A cinder /soil mix (try to find black mix) $27 a ton...then add all your amendments..takes the place of peat and perlite

Man I'm contemplating that cinder mix now. I thought all my females would be in full blown flowering right now because they showed sex back on 6.26. Turns out the one VenomDog I have going is a fast and loose girl. She's smellin great and has decent early buds going. Smells just like the sweet C99s. I haven't smelled this smell in 6 years. I can't help but keep going back and smelling it. Any way, the other 5 girls aren't putting out like this one. They're still in a slow transition from veg to flower. The nodes are getting tight but no real flowering action. So, I look at them in their 5 gal smart pots and think...these broads are gonna get big. Bigger than any thing I've done out doors to date, but nothing like the monstrosities posted by old haole and some of the others. I'll get there one day when I can handle the maintenance. In the meantime, the price tag for maximizing this grow is going up. I just don't know how well I can manage that cinder. Even for healthy guys that stuff is heavy as shit. My first step is getting more smart pots. Can any of you guys recommend a next/final smart pot size that I should consider putting these girls in? They are all currently in 5gal, the plants are all 3-3.5 ft tall already. One is a SSSDH IX I which I expect will finish in late november. I'm not sure if a 10gal would be right for the SSSDH. i think it could go bigger, maybe 15-20? The other ladies might be okay in a 10gal but I dunno. I just want to maximize every thing cuz if I mess my tendons up again, or the lyme kicks up, or one of my other medical probs, then I'll be shit out of luck on growing until that stuff clears up. I need quantity that I can store for potential long term use. So what's the word on sizes of smart pots guys? I could really use some suggestions here.